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Irsay arrested for drunk driving

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  1. Faceplant Well-Known Member

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    This could get interesting. I know he is a recovering alcoholic, so it looks like the wagon hit a few bumps. Lets see what GODell does in this situation. He pretty much HAS to discipline his own boss on this one.
     
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  2. Rams and Gators Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    Not sure how much he can do, 4 game ban for the Colts maybe?
     
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  3. Ram_of_Old Guest

    I doubt he does anything. He knows who signs his checks....and big ones.
     
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  4. Selassie I H. I. M.

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    Drunk driving AND possession of a controlled substance.
     
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    Report: Irsay’s behavior was alarming around Colts organization
    Posted by Michael David Smith on March 17, 2014

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    Jim Irsay’s early-morning arrest for operating while intoxicated and possession of a controlled substance may not have come as a shock within the Colts’ facility.

    According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, some people with connections to the Colts franchise had grown concerned about the owner’s behavior.

    “There are people around the Colts organization who have been suspicious about some of his behavior,” Schefter said Monday morning onSportsCenter.

    No details were given about Irsay’s suspicious behavior. Irsay has acknowledged his struggles with addiction but has claimed that he stopped drinking 15 years ago. Irsay will be subject to discipline from NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.

    Jim Irsay charged with four felony counts of possession
    Posted by Darin Gantt on March 17, 2014

    Colts owner Jim Irsay remains in jail after this morning’s arrest, and the charges continue to mount.

    According to Kristine Guerra of the Indianapolis Star, Irsay was charged with four felony counts of possession of a controlled substance, after police found several prescription drugs in pill bottles in Irsay’s car.

    Police said they found Schedule IV prescription drugs in his car. Schedule IV drugs are on the lower end of the substance abuse spectrum, according to the DEA’s guidelines, and includes sleep medications and Xanax among others.

    Irsay admitted in 2002 an addiction to prescription painkillers, and some within the organization have worried about his recent behavior.
     
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  6. Selassie I H. I. M.

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    Maybe we will be entertained with some 2:30 am tweets from Irrrrrrrrsay in the coming days.

    Unnamed people in with the Colts are concerned with his behavior. lol
     
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  7. Ram_of_Old Guest

    Not much you can do with a majority owner...
     
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  8. MTRamsFan Montana is God's Country

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  9. Angry Ram aka Captain RAmerica aka the OG Rammer

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    I think this story is hilarious. Jim Irsay would get in trouble for this.

    Does anyone follow Arian Foster on twitter? One of his older tweets was saying if an athlete does something good for i.e. charity it rarely gets mentioned on BSPN, but when same guy gets DUI he's crucified for weeks. And lo and behold...guess what's happening.
     
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  10. Ramrasta The Knight Owl

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    Seems like decision making in Indianapolis has been in decline for awhile now...
     
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  11. Prime Time RODerator

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    Kravitz: Jim Irsay fighting for his life, needs help
    Bob Kravitz, bob.kravitz@indystar.com

    In a twisted way, Jim Irsay's friends have been praying for this day. They've been praying for the day when he'd reach rock bottom and be forced to come to terms with a drug problem that he's battled for some time.

    "He's a sick, sick man,'' one source told me. "He desperately needs help.''

    There was a sad inevitability to what happened Sunday night in Carmel. Irsay faces four felony counts after being arrested on preliminary charges of driving under the influence and possession of a controlled substance. For years, Colts insiders have known that Irsay was struggling again with drugs. For years, they fought to get him into rehabilitation. At the very least, they fought to get him a driver in the hopes of keeping away from getting behind the wheel.

    The Colts have been cleaning up Irsay's messes for years now. Time and again, Irsay dismissed the concerns of his close friends and confidantes, even if his increasingly gaunt physical appearance sent up red flags throughout the community.

    I asked him two months ago about his weight loss, which has brought him from 235 pounds to 165 pounds, and he insisted that the doctors wanted him to lose weight to keep the strain off his troublesome back and hip.

    I suspected otherwise.

    Those of us who are around Irsay on a semi-regular basis suspected otherwise for a very long time.

    So why didn't you write it?

    That's a fair question. But it's much like the baseball players during the steroid era. Suspicions cannot be the basis for news stories. My feeling all along has been, "Unless he gets arrested for drugs, or acts erratically in a public setting while obviously under the influence, it will remain nothing more than an educated guess.''

    Now he's been arrested.

    The game has changed.

    He has two big problems, besides the obvious drug issue: He's crazy rich and he has lots of free time. That is a dangerous cocktail for a man with a genetic predisposition to substance abuse.

    That doesn't make him a bad man, just a troubled one, one who has been in and out of rehab on multiple occasions, one who needs to get himself some help again if he wants to be alive for the Colts' next Super Bowl.

    This is not written in anger. It's written with compassion – although if he'd hurt someone while driving, it would take on a different tone. This is a man in the throes of addiction, a disease he's been fighting for years and years with mixed results.

    Now comes the wake-up call.

    Do you hear it, Jim? Do you hear it? Or do you press the snooze button and continue on this downward spiral?

    There's no shame. There's no embarrassment. Fact is, if Irsay gets the help he needs, he'd be a public beacon for the multitudes who also need help with alcohol and drugs. Just as Chuck Pagano has taken the lead on finding a cure for cancer and more specifically leukemia, Irsay can be a guiding light for those in the grips of addiction.

    He's just got to decide it's time.

    Because, well, it is time.

    As a secondary issue, there's now the question of what commissioner Roger Goodell will do once he collects all the pertinent information. I can promise you the NFL Players Association will watch this closely. Will the commissioner come down as hard on Irsay as he does the league's players? In 2010, Detroit Lions president Tom Lewand drew a 30-day suspension, $100,000 fine and performed community service after pleading guilty to driving while impaired. It wouldn't shock me if Goodell suspends or metes out some sort of harsh punishment against Irsay.

    Again, though, that's secondary.

    Based on several conversations with team officials and friends, this is a man fighting for his life.

    Get some help, James.

    Please, get some help.

    Bob Kravitz is a columnist for The Indianapolis Star. Call him at (317) 444-6643 or email bob.kravitz@indystar.com. Follow him on Twitter: @BKravitz.
     
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  12. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    Not suggesting anything here ,but IF HE had a history of this ,he wouldn't be approved to buy a team.
     
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  13. Faceplant Well-Known Member

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    Welp, he did...and he did.
     
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  14. rhinobean Well-Known Member

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    NFL may start putting restrictions on his activities now that it's an issue! Hope he gets help!
     
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    The guys on PTI wonders if Goodell has the guts to do anything. I agree. The guys agree that he should be suspended immediately and indefinitely. Do you agree with that?
     
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    He got the team from his dad. Sounds like the guy is pretty much at the bottom of the barrel right now, not one to kick a man when he's down. Pretty well off though, sounds like he's gonna get some help.
     
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  18. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    I don't think the "kick a guy when he's down" characterization applies here.
    The league sanctions players for off field conduct BECAUSE they shed a bad light on "The Shield" as an owner Irsay's duty of care in that regard is higher and his offenses tarnish the "Shield" in much greater measure than the action of an imprudent kid who just became a millionaire and lost his head.
    Irsay's position should not protect him from scrutiny, in deed it should make him subject to more scrutiny , HOW can his club possibly discipline a player in the future unless he is sanctioned ?

    William Wallace:"You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom."
     
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  19. Faceplant Well-Known Member

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    That ^^^
     
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    Goodell’s Irsay Problem
    Colts owner Jim Irsay faces four felony counts of possessing a controlled substance and a DWI charge. He’s subject to the same personal conduct policy as NFL players, but will the commissioner be the same disciplinarian when punishing one of his bosses?
    By Peter King

    I’ve been listening to people in and out of my business talk about the Jim Irsay story over the past 24 hours and I’ve heard a couple of themes: This is going to be a very tough disciplinary call for Roger Goodell because Irsay’s one of his bosses … and … the players are going to be watching this case to see if Goodell is as tough on one of his 32 employers as he is on the players.

    I’m not buying that this decision will keep the commissioner up at night. I don’t think this is going to be a tough call for Goodell.

    History says it won’t be, even though Goodell has never had to discipline an owner for substance abuse or driving while impaired in his eight years on the job. Irsay was arrested in Indiana early Monday and charged with operating a vehicle under the influence. He was also charged with four felony counts of possessing a controlled substance; police found prescription drugs that weren’t prescribed to him in the car he was driving. Irsay is due in court next week to address the charges.

    This is the sort of case few commissioners have had to deal with. The fact that Irsay has a substance-abuse problem that results in such a public black eye for the league and for himself is a sad story, and it could have been a tragic one: Who knows if this was the first time that Irsay—allegedly—has driven while impaired? He said in a 2012 interview about his sobriety that he has spilled more alcohol than the interviewer has drank, a line many in recovery have used. But Bob Kravitz of the Indianapolis Star quoted a source with knowledge of Irsay’s situation as saying, “He’s a sick, sick man. He desperately needs help.”

    The first step here will be for Irsay to deal with the law, and to get the help he needs. Then Goodell will step in with discipline. An owner is subject to the personal conduct policy the same as a player. What we don’t know right now is whether Irsay has done anything prior to this point to be put on notice by the league. That, obviously, would make the potential league sanction worse.

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    Goodell and Irsay before the start of Super Bowl XLIV. (David J. Phillip/AP)

    But Goodell’s history shows he’s short on sacred cows. I once saw an exasperated Dan Rooney, the Steelers owner who was Goodell’s biggest champion when he ran for commissioner in 2006, tersely complain to him that he was too hard with his fines on Pittsburgh players. Patriots owner Bob Kraft remained a close ally after Goodell—rightfully—took a first-round pick away from New England and fined Kraft’s coach and organization $750,000 over Spygate. Goodell fined the late Tennessee owner, Bud Adams, $250,000 for making an obscene gesture to a crowd in Nashville in 2009. And he stripped New Orleans owner Tom Benson of his coach for the 2012 season, and his GM for half the season, after a long investigation into a bounty system with the Saints.

    The closest case to Irsay’s was in Detroit in 2010. Club president Tom Lewand was arrested for driving while intoxicated, and Goodell gave him a $100,000 fine and a 30-day suspension from his job (later reduced to 21 days because Lewand complied with all the recovery steps the Lions and the league mandated).

    Goodell knows everyone is watching the Irsay case. He knows he’s going to have to be compassionate but tough on Irsay. I think he will be. I think anyone who can strip a playoff team of its coach for a year isn’t going to have a hard time disciplining an owner if he’s found guilty of crimes as serious as felony drug possession and driving under the influence.

    What’s the right punishment, if Irsay is guilty? A fine, certainly. But I can tell you from knowing Irsay that a fine won’t be such a big deal. Banning him from being around his team for a period of time would be much worse. Irsay loves being around his team. He loves being an owner. He loves the life, and what he can do for people because of that life. For goodness sakes, he tweets transactions. He gives out tickets in Twitter contests. When a former Colts beat writer, Len Pasquarelli, was ready to be discharged from a Phoenix hospital after bypass surgery while covering the Super Bowl in 2008, Irsay sent word that he wanted to ferry Pasquarelli home to Atlanta on his private plane, with a nurse on board. On Monday, Pasquarelli wrote about that for a story on his site,pickthedraft.com, just to show people that Irsay is a big-hearted guy who, obviously, has some demons.

    I think a fine plus a suspension from any team-related activities will likely be Goodell’s discipline if the charges against Irsay are true. And if true, the discipline will certainly be justified.
     
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