I know the first games havent been pleasant to watch but

[RamBall]

If Cook and Quick can be the redzone threats we think they can be, SB to Givens can get the Rams to the redzone almost at will. Anybody else feel that SB was just fed up with the vanilla O and decided to drop a bomb to Givens? It seems that when SB wants to get a big chunk Givens can get down the field and make the catch, Id like to see SB put it out where Givens can get into the endzone but inside the 10 isnt bad if they can convert. It just seems like SB is runnin what coach wants him to run, not showin anything that opponents can study, and then when he has had enough and just wants to get somethin goin he can hit Givens deep, instant redzone.

I may be overly optimistic but I believe the Rams have been workin on somethin more than they are showin in preseason games. What we are seein in preseason doesnt really match what we are hearin in the camp reports.

GO RAMS!!!

 

[RamsNation]

I agree that SB and Givens have a great connection with the deep ball and hopefully we let him loose often this season.I also am under the impression we are holding back our offense so nobody will have any tape of our real plays.Lets hope that's the case lol

 

[albefree69]

I haven't had a chance to watch the game yet but from what I've read, it's not the offense that I'm worried about.

 

[max]

I haven't had a chance to watch the game yet but from what I've read, it's not the offense that I'm worried about.

I am more worried about the defense and thats mostly because I've expected so much more from them after last year. They were pretty damn good last year and they look worse this year.

The offense actually looks a bit better than last year, Bradford, Givens, DRichardson and Cook are better than last year. The OL is better than last year. Thing is, everyone expected fireworks on offense so disappointment is understandable.

Also, STs may be worse if thats possible. The Rams have got to have the worst return teams in the NFL or close to it. I expected Fisher to fix this, but he keeps putting Pead back there. I just don't get it.

 

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I haven't had a chance to watch the game yet but from what I've read, it's not the offense that I'm worried about.

I am more worried about the defense and thats mostly because I've expected so much more from them after last year. They were pretty damn good last year and they look worse this year.

Are you comparing last preseason to this preseason, or last year to this preseason? Not busting balls, I'm just asking. I'm trying to find preseason rankings from last year, but that's like trying to discover plutonium while getting struck by lightning.

 

[Thordaddy]

I haven't had a chance to watch the game yet but from what I've read, it's not the offense that I'm worried about.

I am more worried about the defense and thats mostly because I've expected so much more from them after last year. They were pretty damn good last year and they look worse this year.

Are you comparing last preseason to this preseason, or last year to this preseason? Not busting balls, I'm just asking. I'm trying to find preseason rankings from last year, but that's like trying to discover plutonium while getting struck by lightning.

We had a lot of sacks last year ,gotta wonder if Blake Williams being as blitz happy as his papa had a little to do with that.

 

[mr.stlouis]

They target Cook all the time in practice. In the first two Pre-season games, his stats are 1 catch for 37 yards. Yeah, it's painfully obvious the Rams are working on unknown factors.

I agree Sam gets tired of the Vanilla offense and just cuts it loose, too. The guy has a sighted in connon.

 

[bluecoconuts]

I haven't had a chance to watch the game yet but from what I've read, it's not the offense that I'm worried about.

I am more worried about the defense and thats mostly because I've expected so much more from them after last year. They were pretty damn good last year and they look worse this year.

Are you comparing last preseason to this preseason, or last year to this preseason? Not busting balls, I'm just asking. I'm trying to find preseason rankings from last year, but that's like trying to discover plutonium while getting struck by lightning.

We had a lot of sacks last year ,gotta wonder if Blake Williams being as blitz happy as his papa had a little to do with that.

We started getting more sacks later on last year (after the bye week), and I thought I read something where the rest of the defense told Blake Williams to essentially piss off about that time.

 

[tonyl711]

they aren't playing anywhere near the Offense they will be playing in the regular season IMO, but even playing a vanilla Offense they look pretty good, Bradford has looked very good so far this preseason, he looks more comfortable second year in the system seems to be helping. the Oline has done a very good job in pass protection so so in the run, but if they can keep Sam upright ill take it. recievers have too many drops right now, but with such a young group you expect those things and hope they can be corrected, Givens is starting to put himself into elite status, Cook showed a little of what he could do last night. as far as RB DR looks like he is ready to claim the #1 spot, Pead I don't know what to think about Pead they are giving him every chance to claim that #1 spot and so far he really hasn't even given them a reason to keep him after TC, IMO that's why he keeps being put out there for KR, he sucks at that too, but I think Fisher is trying to find a reason to keep him, I would like to see Stacey with the 1s in preseason.

 

[Thordaddy]

I haven't had a chance to watch the game yet but from what I've read, it's not the offense that I'm worried about.

I am more worried about the defense and thats mostly because I've expected so much more from them after last year. They were pretty damn good last year and they look worse this year.

Are you comparing last preseason to this preseason, or last year to this preseason? Not busting balls, I'm just asking. I'm trying to find preseason rankings from last year, but that's like trying to discover plutonium while getting struck by lightning.

We had a lot of sacks last year ,gotta wonder if Blake Williams being as blitz happy as his papa had a little to do with that.

We started getting more sacks later on last year (after the bye week), and I thought I read something where the rest of the defense told Blake Williams to essentially piss off about that time.

Well now I don't have to "wonder " about that anymore :mrgreen:

 

[max]

I haven't had a chance to watch the game yet but from what I've read, it's not the offense that I'm worried about.

I am more worried about the defense and thats mostly because I've expected so much more from them after last year. They were pretty damn good last year and they look worse this year.

Are you comparing last preseason to this preseason, or last year to this preseason? Not busting balls, I'm just asking. I'm trying to find preseason rankings from last year, but that's like trying to discover plutonium while getting struck by lightning.

The stats are here.. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=TOTAL_YARDS&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2012&seasonType=PRE&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats? ... &Submit=Go</a>

Interestingly the issue appears to be red zone performance for our offense. They are getting good yardage. The defense however has gotten worse in total yardage. Don't have stats for ST, but the eyeball test tells me it still stinks.
Preseason stats:
2013 Rams offense is ranked 8th
2012 its ranked 19th
2013 Rams defense is ranked 14th
2012 its ranked 4th

 

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Preseason stats:
2013 Rams offense is ranked 8th
2012 its ranked 19th
2013 Rams defense is ranked 14th
2012 its ranked 4th

Is that a linear comparison? Or four 2012 games vs two 2013 games?

Actually, it doesn't matter. I'm getting too close to putting any stock in these games and I'm trying to shake that nasty habit. What the 2nd and 3rd stringers do shouldn't even be part of the equation, but it is. As I pointed out, GB's third string QB is leading the league in TDs right now, and Rodgers hasn't found the endzone once.

These last two preseason games should be more of a precursor to the season, as the playbook will expand a little, and the starters will get more work (develop consistency throughout a game). I also expect to see a bit more scheming and less 'vanilla' game planning.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Preseason stats:
2013 Rams offense is ranked 8th
2012 its ranked 19th
2013 Rams defense is ranked 14th
2012 its ranked 4th

Is that a linear comparison? Or four 2012 games vs two 2013 games?

Actually, it doesn't matter. I'm getting too close to putting any stock in these games and I'm trying to shake that nasty habit. What the 2nd and 3rd stringers do shouldn't even be part of the equation, but it is. As I pointed out, GB's third string QB is leading the league in TDs right now, and Rodgers hasn't found the endzone once.

These last two preseason games should be more of a precursor to the season, as the playbook will expand a little, and the starters will get more work (develop consistency throughout a game). I also expect to see a bit more scheming and less 'vanilla' game planning.

Buffalo is 2-0
Atlanta is 0-2
Minnesota is 0-2

Preseason football, folks.

 

[Rabid Ram]

I haven't had a chance to watch the game yet but from what I've read, it's not the offense that I'm worried about.

I am more worried about the defense and thats mostly because I've expected so much more from them after last year. They were pretty damn good last year and they look worse this year.

The offense actually looks a bit better than last year, Bradford, Givens, DRichardson and Cook are better than last year. The OL is better than last year. Thing is, everyone expected fireworks on offense so disappointment is understandable.

Also, STs may be worse if thats possible. The Rams have got to have the worst return teams in the NFL or close to it. I expected Fisher to fix this, but he keeps putting Pead back there. I just don't get it.

You cant compare last years season defense to this years preseason defense not even fair comparison. Wrinkles vs vanilla.

Anyone who expects fireworks from a preseason offense will be disappointed every time.

ST i agree Pead is not a kick returns specialist in my opinion.

 

[A55VA6]

Preseason stats:
2013 Rams offense is ranked 8th
2012 its ranked 19th
2013 Rams defense is ranked 14th
2012 its ranked 4th

Is that a linear comparison? Or four 2012 games vs two 2013 games?

Actually, it doesn't matter. I'm getting too close to putting any stock in these games and I'm trying to shake that nasty habit. What the 2nd and 3rd stringers do shouldn't even be part of the equation, but it is. As I pointed out, GB's third string QB is leading the league in TDs right now, and Rodgers hasn't found the endzone once.

These last two preseason games should be more of a precursor to the season, as the playbook will expand a little, and the starters will get more work (develop consistency throughout a game). I also expect to see a bit more scheming and less 'vanilla' game planning.

Buffalo is 2-0
Atlanta is 0-2
Minnesota is 0-2

Preseason football, folks.

Exactly this. Plus the Broncos got destroyed yesterday.

One thing I find funny... is it looks like the Seahawks are showing all their stuff in preseason. They just run the score up too.

 

[WvuIN02]

I saw some stat looking at various boards that for the Steelers the worse they do in preseason the better they do in the regular season, and had won several SBs after having no wins in the preseasons those years.

Preseason is nothing to get worked up about really, especially teams keeping it so vanilla.

Bradford missed on a pass to Austin that he rarely ever misses, and as much as people are upset about the defense holding who many think is the best QB in the NFL to a couple of field goals is what matters. Tackling can get cleaned up.

 

[Angry Ram]

Preseason stats:
2013 Rams offense is ranked 8th
2012 its ranked 19th
2013 Rams defense is ranked 14th
2012 its ranked 4th

Is that a linear comparison? Or four 2012 games vs two 2013 games?

Actually, it doesn't matter. I'm getting too close to putting any stock in these games and I'm trying to shake that nasty habit. What the 2nd and 3rd stringers do shouldn't even be part of the equation, but it is. As I pointed out, GB's third string QB is leading the league in TDs right now, and Rodgers hasn't found the endzone once.

These last two preseason games should be more of a precursor to the season, as the playbook will expand a little, and the starters will get more work (develop consistency throughout a game). I also expect to see a bit more scheming and less 'vanilla' game planning.

Buffalo is 2-0
Atlanta is 0-2
Minnesota is 0-2

Preseason football, folks.

Exactly this. Plus the Broncos got destroyed yesterday.

One thing I find funny... is it looks like the Seahawks are showing all their stuff in preseason. They just run the score up too.

And again...it's like the seaworms did it all offensively. Fumble returns and ST scores to inflate the score = bullshit.

I'm willing to bank that the seaworms are coming back to earth.

 

[Memphis Ram]

On the defense. The poor tackling is a major concern to me. And from what I've seen they aren't even trying to strip the football away like some of the other teams I've watched this preseason.

While they are bringing in former Rams, perhaps they should have a session on stripping the football taught by O.J. Atogwe or something. :lmao: Well, once they get that tackling thing down.

 

[Speeps]

I'm not worried at all. I am concerned about the Tackling. That's all. And that is easily correctable.

 

[CoachO]

A couple of things stand out to me about where this team is and the "vanilla" gameplans on both sides of the ball.

First of all, as many have stated, they aren't showing a fraction of the "type" of system they are working on everyday in practice. They got Austin involved last night, by throwing him a pass while he "sat down" in a soft zone, on 3rd and forever. I can assure you, he hasn't run many of those types of routes in practice.

Secondly, for all of you who seem to like the fact that Bradford "gets bored" and just says I'm gonna chuck it to Givens downfield.... Anyone stop to think that this is the one thing they WANT to show they can still do?

Plant the seed in early opponents that they will, and can take their shots, to make sure they are concerned about it leading into the Regular Season. Automatically loosens the coverage, forces teams to play less 8 man box, giving the running game a better chance.

On defense, while the poor tackling is the obvious point of concern, it's August 18th. Fishers mantra has always been to take care of his players throughout training camp. They have had very little contact, and virtually ZERO FULL contact thus far in camp. And frankly, I'm more than ok with that.

What's the purpose of beating up a young team in early in camp, so they can tackle well in AUGUST? If there's one thing I am NOT concerned about, its whether or not a JEFF FISHER team will tackle. Sort of his trademark as a Head Coach. Physical defenses, which TACKLE well across the board. I will be shocked if things don't start ratcheting up in the next three weeks in terms of the physicality of the practices.

This should also show up in the RUN blocking, as they get after it with further installation of the running game. Which I have no doubt, we have only seen the most basic concepts of that part of the offense as well