Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any moment!

[Memento]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

BSPN is saying that the patsies have Released Hernandez .

NFL Network is saying that as well. I'm genuinely shocked that they did that. Looks like the Cheatriots are primed for a downfall, as they so richly deserve.

 

[Thordaddy]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

So is NFL Netword

 

[Thordaddy]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

BSPN is saying that the patsies have Released Hernandez .

NFL Network is saying that as well. I'm genuinely shocked that they did that. Looks like the Cheatriots are primed for a downfall, as they so richly deserve.

AH ya know ,i ain't celebrating it.

I said this before and I'll say it again,the number of guys in the league who are ONE bad decision away from this is alarming and I'm not fooling myself that if you could win with the 4 pillars it ain't the way to go.

I mean c'mon Ray Lewis and the way he has obfuscated about the details of that fateful night and THEN the whole league fette's the guy including the NFL network. We are a short distance from the National Felons League.

IF you'll allow me a soapbox, until we get our heads out of our arses and quit criminalizing drug abuse and use ,providing a basis for victim-less crime to spill over into violence surrounding it's commerce, our culture and professional athletics are going to continue to coarsen and things LIKE this are going to continue to be more and more common place.
St Louis is only about 100 miles away from the crossroads of the largest meth producing concentration in the US,we are in full bloom of the iron law of prohibition, gangs are an exportation of prison culture to our streets and FWIW Hernandez is not atypical.
I ain't naming any Rams ,but when you take "risks" on players like we do, actuarily speaking, you are on the clock and your time will come.

Not wanting a LOT of blowback, but at this moment I applaud the Pats actions here

 

[bluecoconuts]

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The way he was arrested and the fact the Pats cut him right away, they must have solid evidence that places him at the scene. If it was simply obstruction of justice they likely would have told him to just come on in, but they came when he didn't expect it and arrested him.... They gotta have something big on him.

 

[Memento]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

BSPN is saying that the patsies have Released Hernandez .

NFL Network is saying that as well. I'm genuinely shocked that they did that. Looks like the Cheatriots are primed for a downfall, as they so richly deserve.

AH ya know ,i ain't celebrating it.

I said this before and I'll say it again,the number of guys in the league who are ONE bad decision away from this is alarming and I'm not fooling myself that if you could win with the 4 pillars it ain't the way to go.

I mean c'mon Ray Lewis and the way he has obfuscated about the details of that fateful night and THEN the whole league fette's the guy including the NFL network. We are a short distance from the National Felons League.

IF you'll allow me a soapbox, until we get our heads out of our arses and quit criminalizing drug abuse and use ,providing a basis for victim-less crime to spill over into violence surrounding it's commerce, our culture and professional athletics are going to continue to coarsen and things LIKE this are going to continue to be more and more common place.
St Louis is only about 100 miles away from the crossroads of the largest meth producing concentration in the US,we are in full bloom of the iron law of prohibition, gangs are an exportation of prison culture to our streets and FWIW Hernandez is not atypical.
I ain't naming any Rams ,but when you take "risks" on players like we do, actuarily speaking, you are on the clock and your time will come.

Don't mind decriminalizing drug use for marijuana or stuff that's equally harmless. Things like meth, though...you have to go after that. It utterly ruins people's lives. Don't want to go deep into politics, so I'll stop there.

And I'm not celebrating this either. At the very least, Hernandez was involved with the murder of a friend. Someone else was maimed because Hernandez decided to shoot him in the face. That's two lives directly and irrevocably destroyed because of one person. There's nothing to celebrate about that.

I should explain my thoughts: the Patriots downfall is not having a strong locker room and taking far too many chances on players who have questionable backgrounds at best (i.e., Hernandez, Haynesworth). Add in their coach and how he respects the integrity of the game, and they quite deserve this fate after scraping by so long. Karma gets everyone in the end.

 

[Thordaddy]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

BSPN is saying that the patsies have Released Hernandez .

NFL Network is saying that as well. I'm genuinely shocked that they did that. Looks like the Cheatriots are primed for a downfall, as they so richly deserve.

AH ya know ,i ain't celebrating it.

I said this before and I'll say it again,the number of guys in the league who are ONE bad decision away from this is alarming and I'm not fooling myself that if you could win with the 4 pillars it ain't the way to go.

I mean c'mon Ray Lewis and the way he has obfuscated about the details of that fateful night and THEN the whole league fette's the guy including the NFL network. We are a short distance from the National Felons League.

IF you'll allow me a soapbox, until we get our heads out of our arses and quit criminalizing drug abuse and use ,providing a basis for victim-less crime to spill over into violence surrounding it's commerce, our culture and professional athletics are going to continue to coarsen and things LIKE this are going to continue to be more and more common place.
St Louis is only about 100 miles away from the crossroads of the largest meth producing concentration in the US,we are in full bloom of the iron law of prohibition, gangs are an exportation of prison culture to our streets and FWIW Hernandez is not atypical.
I ain't naming any Rams ,but when you take "risks" on players like we do, actuarily speaking, you are on the clock and your time will come.

Don't mind decriminalizing drug use for marijuana or stuff that's equally harmless. Things like meth, though...you have to go after that. It utterly ruins people's lives. Don't want to go deep into politics, so I'll stop there.

And I'm not celebrating this either. At the very least, Hernandez was involved with the murder of a friend. Someone else was maimed because Hernandez decided to shoot him in the face. That's two lives directly and irrevocably destroyed because of one person. There's nothing to celebrate about that.

I should explain my thoughts: the Patriots downfall is not having a strong locker room and taking far too many chances on players who have questionable backgrounds at best (i.e., Hernandez, Haynesworth). Add in their coach and how he respects the integrity of the game, and they quite deserve this fate after scraping by so long. Karma gets everyone in the end.

Not preachen atcha Mem.
Room for both opinions on this ,JMO though self destruction isn't a criminal act.

 

[bluecoconuts]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

BSPN is saying that the patsies have Released Hernandez .

NFL Network is saying that as well. I'm genuinely shocked that they did that. Looks like the Cheatriots are primed for a downfall, as they so richly deserve.

AH ya know ,i ain't celebrating it.

I said this before and I'll say it again,the number of guys in the league who are ONE bad decision away from this is alarming and I'm not fooling myself that if you could win with the 4 pillars it ain't the way to go.

I mean c'mon Ray Lewis and the way he has obfuscated about the details of that fateful night and THEN the whole league fette's the guy including the NFL network. We are a short distance from the National Felons League.

IF you'll allow me a soapbox, until we get our heads out of our arses and quit criminalizing drug abuse and use ,providing a basis for victim-less crime to spill over into violence surrounding it's commerce, our culture and professional athletics are going to continue to coarsen and things LIKE this are going to continue to be more and more common place.
St Louis is only about 100 miles away from the crossroads of the largest meth producing concentration in the US,we are in full bloom of the iron law of prohibition, gangs are an exportation of prison culture to our streets and FWIW Hernandez is not atypical.
I ain't naming any Rams ,but when you take "risks" on players like we do, actuarily speaking, you are on the clock and your time will come.

Don't mind decriminalizing drug use for marijuana or stuff that's equally harmless. Things like meth, though...you have to go after that. It utterly ruins people's lives. Don't want to go deep into politics, so I'll stop there.

And I'm not celebrating this either. At the very least, Hernandez was involved with the murder of a friend. Someone else was maimed because Hernandez decided to shoot him in the face. That's two lives directly and irrevocably destroyed because of one person. There's nothing to celebrate about that.

I should explain my thoughts: the Patriots downfall is not having a strong locker room and taking far too many chances on players who have questionable backgrounds at best (i.e., Hernandez, Haynesworth). Add in their coach and how he respects the integrity of the game, and they quite deserve this fate after scraping by so long. Karma gets everyone in the end.

Not preachen atcha Mem.
Room for both opinions on this ,JMO though self destruction isn't a criminal act.

Drugs destroy more than just the user.

 

[albefree69]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

bluecoconuts with a partial truth:
Drugs destroy more than just the user.

True but how much of that is from the ramifications of them being illegal?

 

[RamsFanCK]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

BSPN is saying that the patsies have Released Hernandez .

NFL Network is saying that as well. I'm genuinely shocked that they did that. Looks like the Cheatriots are primed for a downfall, as they so richly deserve.

AH ya know ,i ain't celebrating it.

I said this before and I'll say it again,the number of guys in the league who are ONE bad decision away from this is alarming and I'm not fooling myself that if you could win with the 4 pillars it ain't the way to go.

I mean c'mon Ray Lewis and the way he has obfuscated about the details of that fateful night and THEN the whole league fette's the guy including the NFL network. We are a short distance from the National Felons League.

IF you'll allow me a soapbox, until we get our heads out of our arses and quit criminalizing drug abuse and use ,providing a basis for victim-less crime to spill over into violence surrounding it's commerce, our culture and professional athletics are going to continue to coarsen and things LIKE this are going to continue to be more and more common place.
St Louis is only about 100 miles away from the crossroads of the largest meth producing concentration in the US,we are in full bloom of the iron law of prohibition, gangs are an exportation of prison culture to our streets and FWIW Hernandez is not atypical.
I ain't naming any Rams ,but when you take "risks" on players like we do, actuarily speaking, you are on the clock and your time will come.

Don't mind decriminalizing drug use for marijuana or stuff that's equally harmless. Things like meth, though...you have to go after that. It utterly ruins people's lives. Don't want to go deep into politics, so I'll stop there.

And I'm not celebrating this either. At the very least, Hernandez was involved with the murder of a friend. Someone else was maimed because Hernandez decided to shoot him in the face. That's two lives directly and irrevocably destroyed because of one person. There's nothing to celebrate about that.

I should explain my thoughts: the Patriots downfall is not having a strong locker room and taking far too many chances on players who have questionable backgrounds at best (i.e., Hernandez, Haynesworth). Add in their coach and how he respects the integrity of the game, and they quite deserve this fate after scraping by so long. Karma gets everyone in the end.

I don't want this to become a heated political debate, but I will ask one question.

If marijuana is legalized federally, what becomes the black markets new front runner? Harder drugs? Weapons?

The black market will never die, unless absolutely everything is legalized. However the front line product will get worse and permeate it's way through our society. Hopefully, instead of just legalizing things that cause people's down fall, society as a whole can ascertain a new level of morality.

 

[LesBaker]

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bluecoconuts with a partial truth:
Drugs destroy more than just the user.

True but how much of that is from the ramifications of them being illegal?

It's the money involved IMO.

Also if any drug was made legal there would still be a black market for it in some way shape or form and there would be violence associated with it because of the money.

 

[wv]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

Back to Hernandez -- it is just an 'accusation' at this point. The government's 'accused' him of some sort of obstruction (a misdemeanor in most states). He's not been found guilty of anything. Just sayin.

Its ok to just wait patiently and actually see what the facts really are. Granted the 'media' doesnt do that.

w
v

 

[RamFan503]

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Don't mind decriminalizing drug use for marijuana or stuff that's equally harmless. Things like meth, though...you have to go after that. It utterly ruins people's lives. Don't want to go deep into politics, so I'll stop there.

That's pretty much where I am. Pot? Big effing deal. Just leave it alone and quit wasting money fighting it. But meth is a totally different story. While some may want to say that the only victim is the user, that is patently untrue. Meth users do crazy shit and much of it is not in the name of getting more meth. That shit eats holes in the brain and turns people into psychos.

I managed a mobile home community for a while. We had meth users do things like tear holes in a neighbor's wall and deck because aliens kept popping their heads out and staring at him. We had another attack three 8 year old kids because they were stealing his porn magazines. We had a chick attack her husband because she was sick of seeing him in magazines with his secretary.

Our local high school had their aluminum bleachers cut up and hauled to a scrap yard by meth users. Anyone in a right state of mind would have known the scrap yard would not take the metal and would call the cops.

I agree that drugs being illegal creates criminals in our country. I would be fine with legalizing all sorts of drugs. I draw the line at some of them. The gov't is always going to create black market opportunities. Quit wasting money going after the fairly innocuous "crimes" and concentrate on societal scourges.

 

[albefree69]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

LesBaker singing money makes the world go round:
It's the money involved IMO.

Also if any drug was made legal there would still be a black market for it in some way shape or form and there would be violence associated with it because of the money.

I think that's a little too far reaching Les. Think alcohol and Amsterdam. But I get your point and it would have to be legal everywhere to remove all the money induced violence.

IMO.

As for waiting patiently, give me something else to do and I'll think about it. :lol:

 

[RamFan503]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

Back to Hernandez -- it is just an 'accusation' at this point. The government's 'accused' him of some sort of obstruction (a misdemeanor in most states). He's not been found guilty of anything. Just sayin.

Its ok to just wait patiently and actually see what the facts really are. Granted the 'media' doesnt do that.

w
v

And do you really think the patsies let him go because he's been accused of a misdemeanor?

I agree that he should get his day in court and is innocent of ALL charges pending his trial. But he's a patsy so... don't care.

 

[Memento]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

BSPN is saying that the patsies have Released Hernandez .

NFL Network is saying that as well. I'm genuinely shocked that they did that. Looks like the Cheatriots are primed for a downfall, as they so richly deserve.

AH ya know ,i ain't celebrating it.

I said this before and I'll say it again,the number of guys in the league who are ONE bad decision away from this is alarming and I'm not fooling myself that if you could win with the 4 pillars it ain't the way to go.

I mean c'mon Ray Lewis and the way he has obfuscated about the details of that fateful night and THEN the whole league fette's the guy including the NFL network. We are a short distance from the National Felons League.

IF you'll allow me a soapbox, until we get our heads out of our arses and quit criminalizing drug abuse and use ,providing a basis for victim-less crime to spill over into violence surrounding it's commerce, our culture and professional athletics are going to continue to coarsen and things LIKE this are going to continue to be more and more common place.
St Louis is only about 100 miles away from the crossroads of the largest meth producing concentration in the US,we are in full bloom of the iron law of prohibition, gangs are an exportation of prison culture to our streets and FWIW Hernandez is not atypical.
I ain't naming any Rams ,but when you take "risks" on players like we do, actuarily speaking, you are on the clock and your time will come.

Don't mind decriminalizing drug use for marijuana or stuff that's equally harmless. Things like meth, though...you have to go after that. It utterly ruins people's lives. Don't want to go deep into politics, so I'll stop there.

And I'm not celebrating this either. At the very least, Hernandez was involved with the murder of a friend. Someone else was maimed because Hernandez decided to shoot him in the face. That's two lives directly and irrevocably destroyed because of one person. There's nothing to celebrate about that.

I should explain my thoughts: the Patriots downfall is not having a strong locker room and taking far too many chances on players who have questionable backgrounds at best (i.e., Hernandez, Haynesworth). Add in their coach and how he respects the integrity of the game, and they quite deserve this fate after scraping by so long. Karma gets everyone in the end.

Not preachen atcha Mem.
Room for both opinions on this ,JMO though self destruction isn't a criminal act.

Ah. My mistake. Sorry about the misunderstanding, Odin.

 

[RamFan503]

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Ah. My mistake. Sorry about the misunderstanding, Odin.

Ouch!

 

[Thordaddy]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

Not preachen atcha Mem.
Room for both opinions on this ,JMO though self destruction isn't a criminal act.

Ah. My mistake. Sorry about the misunderstanding, Odin.

No sweat brudda, I agree something HAS to be done,I just think we need to go at it a different way.
JMO but you can't wield a hammer big enough to scare someone away from using a drug that kills ya.
If I were king of the forest,I'd pour the tax money from the drug culture into re-hab, re-search into it.Carrot instead of the stick,I KNOW my persona here isn't very indicative of it but I'm really a theory Y guy.

 

[Memento]

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Ah. My mistake. Sorry about the misunderstanding, Odin.

Ouch!

Just brushing up on my Norse mythology is all.

:bg:

 

[RamFan503]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

Ah. My mistake. Sorry about the misunderstanding, Odin.

Ouch!

Just brushing up on my Norse mythology is all.

:bg:

Yeah... uhuh. It was a pretty funny dig. Part of what's cool around here. Thor just rolled with it.

I DO get where Thor is going too. I'm about as close to Libertarian as you can get. I just can't quite make the leap to full decriminalization of all drug use.

 

[LesBaker]

Re: Hernandez could be charged with obstruction at any momen

Back to Hernandez -- it is just an 'accusation' at this point. The government's 'accused' him of some sort of obstruction (a misdemeanor in most states). He's not been found guilty of anything. Just sayin.

Its ok to just wait patiently and actually see what the facts really are. Granted the 'media' doesnt do that.

w
v

And do you really think the patsies let him go because he's been accused of a misdemeanor?

I agree that he should get his day in court and is innocent of ALL charges pending his trial. But he's a patsy so... don't care.

The police have stated they will not say what the charges are until it is presented in court. They even tweeted it.....the Mass State Police has a twitter feed....WTF is that? Here is what it says:
MASS STATE POLICE @MassStatePolice

We are not releasing the charge against Hernandez until it is presented to the court. Again, he will be arraigned in Attleboro Court today

The warrant wasn't released to the public so I'm guessing it's more than the original obstruction charge we all thought was coming. I agree there is no way the Patriots make that move unless it's for the reasons I stated earlier and it's likely that he is going to be brought up on charges of at least aiding this crime.

On the second search when they brought dogs through his house and all over the property they left with several bags. So I doubt if this is an obstruction charge.