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Carroll Would Have Stayed To Fix USC

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  1. PhxRam

    PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll now has a Super Bowl title on his résumé. But he wouldn't have that Lombardi Trophy had he known what sanctions awaited the USC football program in June 2010.

    Carroll told the Los Angeles Times he would not have left the Trojans in January 2010, if he knew what penalties the NCAA was going to impose after it determined Reggie Bush and his family received money and other benefits from sports marketers.

    "The truth was, an opportunity came up and it was one I couldn't turn away from," Carroll told the Times. "... The NCAA came back at the university ... 'Now we're going to revisit after five years.' I had no knowledge that was coming. We thought maybe it wasn't coming because they didn't have anything to get us with. It wasn't five days, it wasn't five weeks. It was five years. Had we known that that was imminent ... I would never have been able to leave under those circumstances. When I look back now, I would have stayed there to do what we needed to do to resolve the problem."

    USC was hit with a two-year bowl ban, lost 30 scholarships over three years, and had to vacate its 2004 national championship and all 12 wins in 2005.

    Carroll, who led USC to six BCS bowl game victories, said in 2010 that he "never thought there were any facts that supported significant sanctions." Prior to this year's Super Bowl, Carroll said the criticism over his perceived abandoning of USC was unfair.

    "It does bother me because it's not right and it's not accurate," Carroll said. "... I didn't feel bad about leaving at all. I didn't feel bad about it because I knew what the truth was."

    USC athletic director Pat Haden offered his support of Carroll.

    "In house [at USC] and by myself, Pete Carroll is revered," Haden told the Times. "He did a lot of things incredibly well here."

    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/coll...oll-says-left-usc-trojans-knew-ncaa-sanctions
  2. PhxRam

    PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    not so sure I buy into this..
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  3. -X-

    -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Yeah right.
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  4. Elmgrovegnome

    Elmgrovegnome Well-Known Member

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    Don't believe a word of it. Carroll got while the gettin was good.
  5. VCRam

    VCRam Pancake

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    Right....:rolleyes:
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    Boffo97 Well-Known Member

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    He knew the hammer was going to fall when he left. If he wouldn't stayed... well... he would've stayed.
  7. SierraRam

    SierraRam Recreational User

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    Carroll said. "... I didn't feel bad about leaving at all. I didn't feel bad about it because I knew what the truth was."

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  8. jjab360

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    bullcrap
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  9. rams24/7

    rams24/7 Well-Known Member

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    It sounds nice. But... NO. I call BS
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  10. bluecoconuts

    bluecoconuts Well-Known Member

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    bullcrap, like he didn't know? He ran off to avoid punishment like a coward.
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  11. Thordaddy

    Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    Well ya know ,did we REALLY EXPECT him to say, "whew man I got out just in time,lemme tell ya guys in life ,timing is everything, EVERYTHING..............BTW wanna buy some adderall?"
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    Selassie I H. I. M.

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  13. Dick84

    Dick84 New Member

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    As a Trojan & season tix holder at colesium... I believe him.

    Look at what he was offered in prior offseasons. He wasn't offered what he wanted until the Seattle situation.

    Also... The sanctions are BS.

    If Todd McNair had dropped his lawsuit...sanctions would've been dropped.

    Unless you really expect me to believe the Miami situation didn't deserve much, much more severe punishment.
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    I call bullcrap.
  16. moklerman

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    Hard to imagine he didn't know what was coming but USC has been raked over the coals compared to some other programs. If the NCAA wants to make an example of USC as a lead-in to stiffer penalties across the board, that's fine. But that hasn't been the case.

    I never gave ol' Pete enough credit when he was at USC. I always thought of him as a guy who couldn't cut it in the NFL and the beneficiary of a stacked deck at USC. Looking at his career now, I think I'll have to amend that opinion.
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  17. den-the-coach

    den-the-coach Well-Known Member

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    I have nothing against Pete Carroll besides the fact that he's sleeping with the enemy...I noticed him with the New York Jets as an up coming defensive coordinator. Leon Hess wanted to win so he fired a guy that went 8-8 in his first year and made the infamos hiriing of Richie Kotite and that's why everytime I fill up at Hess gas station I chuckle.

    Carroll went on to big time John Shaw in his interview with the Rams back in 1997 which of course I did not believe John Shaw and Carroll went on to follow Bill Parcells in New England and did get the Pats to post season, but was not the right fit there.

    He did a great job at USC and some hold him responsible for the violations and in some cases, rightfully so, however, before Pete Carroll got to USC, they were a joke and were no longer relevant. He did an amazing job there and has done just an amazing job in the Pacific Northwest.

    Gentlemen there is nothing wrong with repecting the teams you despise....I despise the 49ers, but I respected Bill Walsh and Joe Montana, but I hated Steve Young and never respected him so I totally understand if you feel otherwise.
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    Can you explain this more? I don't recall hearing about it or exactly what you mean.
  19. Ramhusker

    Ramhusker Well-Known Member Pick 'Em Champion Pit Boss

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    I think Pete Carroll has a future in the other Washington. He can dish out the BS with the best of them. Lying with a straight face is a real skill. A cabinet position awaits him in some capacity.
  20. PhxRam

    PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    I am just the opposite.

    I like Steve Young and hate montana and walsh and craig and norton jr and hanks and taylor and rice and clark and....