Can Snead negotiate a trade, or what?...

[Rams43]

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that other GM's were now semi reluctant to make a trade with Snead now. Lol.

Let's see...

The RG3 trade is the stuff of legends. So many starters for the Rams as a result of that blockbuster. And for a QB that's proven iffy for Washington, at best.

It's early regarding the Bradford/Foles trade. Could still be a good one for the Eagles, but it's looking REAL good for the Rams. Foles is completing throws that I doubt Bradford would even attempt. There's a new energy and confidence on our O now. Plus that Eagle 2nd we'll get next year looks like it might be in the 12-16 range of that round. Very possibly another quality starter. This is looking like a HR trade from Ram pov.

The trade down in '13 with Atlanta got us Ogletree and Bailey. Gotta love that one. Ogletree is on the verge of being a Pro Bowler and Bailey is a clutch chain moving WR with flypaper hands AND a demon on ST.

The trade with Tampa giving us Barron for a future 4th and 6th is playing out nicely, huh? I think Barron will be a keeper for this GW defense.

The trade up to take Joyner is still up in the air. But I wouldn't call it a big win for Snead at this point. Maybe "pretty good", but not brilliant.

That trade down with the Bears was clearly Snead's biggest bungle. To lose Wagner for Pead/Watkins still stings.

But overall, I have to say Snead has come out on top with his trade results. Ask yourself, where would we be without all these players acquired in these various trades?

His draft pick results compare very favorably with league averages.

His FA selections have been a mixed bag. Some hits, some misses. Pretty much like all other GM's. The good news is that now our roster is such that the need for signing future costly (and risky) outside FA's is greatly reduced. Snead was forced to take chances early on to try to jumpstart our pitiful roster. I think he deserves a little slack for early FA signings.

His record on UDFA signings has been superb. There are contributing gems throughout our roster from this formerly neglected area. McLeod and Hekker being at the top of the UDFA list.

But the main thrust of this post is Snead's trading prowess. Very, very impressive, IMO.

Other opinions may vary...

 

[Sleepy1711]

What I love about Snead, you never know what's going to happen but you know something is going to happen.

Been super happy with him as a GM, hope he stays for a very long time.

Also, he and Fisher seems like they synergize very well.

 

[Faceplant]

I am not overly impressed with Snead to be honest. Danny and the Bravehearts were going to throw the kitchen sink at whichever team had the #2 pick that year, we were just there to take the booty. The trade that yielded Pead/Watkins over Wagner was a horrible. Horrible. I like the Barron trade OK. Most still have a problem with the trade up for Tavon, but I don't. All in all I would rank him as average so far in trade execution. Remember, for all of that booty we got from the Skins in 2012, we are the team that has yet to reach the playoffs since. Hope I don't get hammered for this POV, but that is how I see things.

 

[DaveFan'51]

Because of the way he's transformed the Team, in such short Time. Snead would have my Vote for the Best GM the Rams have ever had!

 

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I disagree with ya @Faceplant but we dont need to hammer anyone.

I'm giving him a pass on the one exception you bring up. Also remember Snead was the author of the trade that brought Julio Jones to Atlanta.

I think the conception of these trades are all born from a team effort between the coaches, mainly Jeff Fisher, and Les.

Actually working out the terms falls on Les.

I remember a recent ranking of NFL GM's and was surprised Snead wasnt top 5 tbh

 

[LACHAMP46]

Something about Sneads age, his history of playing in the SEC...Working under Dimitri-off???...and seeing his success (Julio J) and failures (many), has led his development...There are a bunch of young GM's...in many different sports that just GET IT...I like a bunch of the drafted players...not as much as some others (lol), but all in all, no "wtf was that?!?" type picks....now some of these FA's......but it all makes sense...he knows what type of trades to make,because he learned from one of the best and played the game, watched the game at the highest levels....

 

[Zaphod]

I give him a pass on some of the offensive picks only because I maintain that Shottenheimer and Fisher didn't share the same vision for what they wanted the offense to be.

 

[KeithA39]

He's done great imo. It just wouldn't be as good with GM's that proceeded him.

I'd also include the trading down to get Brockers and the 45th pick. I recall a lot wanting to trade the 6th pick to 4th or 5th to get Blackmon. In retrospect, we'd be calling for his head had he done so. Not only was DT a huge need at the time, but, with Blackmon, well, we all know how that's turned out. If we had held onto pick 45 and got Wagner, it would have hugely amplified the one-sided gulf of the trade with the Redskins.

 

[KeithA39]

Think of this draft:
1 14 Michael Brockers
2 33 Brian Quick
2 39 Janoris Jenkins
2 45 Bobby Wagner
3 65 Trumaine Johnson
4 96 Chris Givens
6 171 Greg Zuerlein
7 209 Aaron Brown
252 Daryl Richardson

And, additional 1st rounders the next two years.

That would be freakin' ridiculous!!!

 

[JackDRams]

I am not overly impressed with Snead to be honest. Danny and the Bravehearts were going to throw the kitchen sink at whichever team had the #2 pick that year, we were just there to take the booty. The trade that yielded Pead/Watkins over Wagner was a horrible. Horrible. I like the Barron trade OK. Most still have a problem with the trade up for Tavon, but I don't. All in all I would rank him as average so far in trade execution. Remember, for all of that booty we got from the Skins in 2012, we are the team that has yet to reach the playoffs since. Hope I don't get hammered for this POV, but that is how I see things.

So it's Sneads fault we haven't made the playoffs? That's not how this works. If I give you lemons, and you let them go bad, it's my fault you didn't make lemonade? And how exactly do you know what the skins were offering for the #2? Are you in the organization? You have no way of knowing. Snead could have gotten much more out of them then another GM. You think the skins just called and said "hey, I'll give you anything you want". Not likely.

 

[-X-]

So it's Sneads fault we haven't made the playoffs? That's not how this works. If I give you lemons, and you let them go bad, it's my fault you didn't make lemonade? And how exactly do you know what the skins were offering for the #2? Are you in the organization? You have no way of knowing. Snead could have gotten much more out of them then another GM. You think the skins just called and said "hey, I'll give you anything you want". Not likely.

How it worked was, it was an open auction. The Browns and Redskins (and anyone else who wanted to play) simply had to submit their best offer. If you remember, Cleveland dicked around with their bid and then wanted to come back and up the anty. But by then it was too late.

 

[LazyWinker]

I'm hopeful he'll get some guys extended this year. I'd like to see Tim Barnes rewarded for his play and hard work.

 

[Rams43]

I'm hopeful he'll get some guys extended this year. I'd like to see Tim Barnes rewarded for his play and hard work.

Good catch, Lazy.

I think we can put Barnes as a FA signing in the Snead win column, huh?

 

[Stel]

I am not overly impressed with Snead to be honest. Danny and the Bravehearts were going to throw the kitchen sink at whichever team had the #2 pick that year, we were just there to take the booty. The trade that yielded Pead/Watkins over Wagner was a horrible.

I think you're confusing the quality of the trade with the quality of the selections. I wasn't a fan of the selections but the trade was, . . . . . . . . . . wait for it, . . . . . . . .legendary.

 

[dieterbrock]

Compare the roster from 2011 to now and tell me Snead can't wheel and deal.
Holy smokes!

 

[LazyWinker]

Compare the roster from 2011 to now and tell me Snead can't wheel and deal.
Holy smokes!

During the dark ages the only real excitement was that some wild rumor like signing Herschell Walker might be true. All I know is that our Rams aren't signing 27 year old veteran rugby stars to be our return specialist.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I say you have to include UDFAs and he is really cleaning up in that area IMO.

BTW I don't like the thread title. I opened ROD and instantly thought the Rams swung a new trade for someone like Alshon Jeffrey....only to be disappointed that it was a rehash thread.

 

[Angry Ram]

Pead/Watkins over Wagner

If we had held onto pick 45 and got Wagner

I get annoyed when people are still upset over Bobby Wagner. If they had taken him, Janoris Jenkins probably wouldn't be here.

If they had taken Bobby, it is very likely Alec Ogletree wouldn't either.

Also, let's compare Tavon Austin vs. the 7 guys taken in front of him and the few behind him:

Eric Fisher- is playing RT and struggling
Luke Joeckel- is @ LT, but struggles mightily
Dion Jordan- I think he's hurt again?
Lane Johnson- decent RT
Bark Mingo- meh
Jon Cooper- meh
Tavon Austin- one of the top TD scorers from that draft class (total TDs)
Dee Milliner- ehh, the Jets resigned Darrelle Revis
DJ Hayden- meh
Sheldon Richardson- stud
Star Lotuleilei- stud

When you look at the grand scheme of things, if the Rams hadn't had traded up they would've picked b/w one of these guys. And boy, would that not be good.

Les Snead is probably one of the best things to have happened to this team. His players, even if you have disagreed with the picks, the majority have contributed in some way.

 

[Boston Ram]

Because of the way he's transformed the Team, in such short Time. Snead would have my Vote for the Best GM the Rams have ever had!

Dick Vermeil......

 

[ItsonTavon]

If anyone have played Dark souls 2.