All you blaming the refs on our loss

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bluecoconuts

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Agree with the premise, disagree with the message, strongly disagree with the delivery.

Refs can play part of a game, but week in and week out everyone picks out plays and blames the refs for the loss. At some point we're just looking for excuses.

X made a thread yesterday about the Rams having 4 winning seasons out of 25. That's a long time of bad football, and it's not all because of the refs. Blaming the refs says its okay to lose, it's okay to be a bad team, it's okay to make mistakes, because hey the refs are just going to screw us anyway, right? That's bullshit, and loser mentality. You want the calls to go your way? Stop being a team known for mistakes (and we make obvious and bad ones all the time). Want to win? Go out and earn it.

Anything else is just an excuse.
 

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As I have said many times F' the Refs..they have a banner that says that at every game.
 

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Not gonna get too worked up about that OPI call, the fact that it got into the team's heads speaks volumes about problems beyond the refs. Good teams overcome those hiccups and apparently, we're far from one.
But it wasn't the OPI that rocked the Rams; it was Jenkins horrible play. It also gave Kaperdick confidence. Big swing in momentum.
 

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Agree with the premise, disagree with the message, strongly disagree with the delivery.

Refs can play part of a game, but week in and week out everyone picks out plays and blames the refs for the loss. At some point we're just looking for excuses.

X made a thread yesterday about the Rams having 4 winning seasons out of 25. That's a long time of bad football, and it's not all because of the refs. Blaming the refs says its okay to lose, it's okay to be a bad team, it's okay to make mistakes, because hey the refs are just going to screw us anyway, right? That's bullcrap, and loser mentality. You want the calls to go your way? Stop being a team known for mistakes (and we make obvious and bad ones all the time). Want to win? Go out and earn it.

Anything else is just an excuse.
If it's okay, I'll only reply to one of these. ;)

I don't think anyone is saying the game's loss was wholly on the refs. But do I think they were the leading cause?

Oh, hell yeah.

Without the refs' idiotic calls and idiotic non calls, I think the Rams have a very good shot at winning the game, even though other mistakes make it a lot closer than it should be.
 

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But it wasn't the OPI that rocked the Rams; it was Jenkins horrible play. It also gave Kaperdick confidence. Big swing in momentum.

That OPI did rock the Rams. It killed the offensive momentum they had and turned a likely score into a punt. And Fisher was furious, rightly so.

And on the big pass from Kap, it should have been called back, as Quinn was blatantly held right in front of the officials, but no call.
 

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Hello...I'm a niner's fan here. I just came to your boards to see what your thoughts were on last night's game.

I wanted to post my feelings on the game and the NFL in general.

The call last night on Cook was absolutely crap. I think by looking at the game last night you might notice a pattern.

The NFL is a ratings monster, but with this new age of internet and global marketing they need to track "eye balls" on the game at all times for the maximum advertising dollar. Just imagine if this game were a complete blow out? By the 2nd half, no one would be watching this game any longer. Thus they would lose the ad $. Also the more the blow outs and poor ratings, the lower the tv contract for Sunday/Monday night football. Does everyone remember that monday night football was struggling and just in 2011 alone they lost 10% of their ratings? They need to do something to have the most competitive, most controversial, and explosive game possible so people want to watch.

Last night what I think was happening is this. The rams were the heavy underdog, unheralded replacement QB, injured defense and offensive stars. The 49ers were the favorites (think betting here as well, upsets lose casinos money). So what do you do? You think that the Rams might only get a few shots to score, so when they are in the redzone you favor the underdog. Get them a few easy scores by steering some minor calls in their favor at critical times. HEre is where you insert blatant holding on RAMS entire left side for the TD. Before you freak out, really go back and watch with an unbiased eye. There are others, but i wont go into every single call. Back to the point...so now the game is starting to take a turn for the unexpected and the niners are getting killed. I literally told the people i was watching the game with, "watch what happens now, the refs will start making weird calls in our favor". This is where the RAms are marching down the field with a possibility of going up 21-3. This would be a disaster really for ratings, people would start dropping like flies watching this game....so BAM phantom call on Cook (controversial), backs up the O and creates a momentum shift....The niners get to score on a defensive scheme that almost anyone in the world thinks is something even a high school coach would never call...ever. Niners back in the game, explosive play, game is now close (competitive). Now we go to the plays after the niners take a lead. This is where the calls start killing the niners again from going up toooo much and leaving the rams without any chance. They manage to keep this game going all the way until the final minute or so.

The NFL is fixed. Plain and simple. You really just have to do a little googling to find some really weird stuff. Look at the last few superbowls and championship games for proof. Go back to when the Steelers won against the Seahawks. The calls in that SB were so bad, that even years later the refs had to admit that the calls were atrocious.

I'll bet you that either Dallas or Denver wins this next SB because of the ratings for manning or "America's Team". They cannot get enough bad calls in the world to help the JETS or GIANTS to go, and the Redskins wont change their name. Those are the ratings teams. Watch this, once the Redskins change their name (and they will eventually), in the next year or so afterwards, they will win a superbowl. It will be the NFL trying to rebrand and remarket an nfl team.

The next SB for next season might very well be the 49ers. New stadium hosting the superbowl, what better story than to have the home team play in it?
 

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The NFL is a ratings monster, but with this new age of internet and global marketing they need to track "eye balls" on the game at all times for the maximum advertising dollar. Just imagine if this game were a complete blow out? By the 2nd half, no one would be watching this game any longer. Thus they would lose the ad $. Also the more the blow outs and poor ratings, the lower the tv contract for Sunday/Monday night football. Does everyone remember that monday night football was struggling and just in 2011 alone they lost 10% of their ratings? They need to do something to have the most competitive, most controversial, and explosive game possible so people want to watch.

Last night what I think was happening is this. The rams were the heavy underdog, unheralded replacement QB, injured defense and offensive stars. The 49ers were the favorites (think betting here as well, upsets lose casinos money). So what do you do? You think that the Rams might only get a few shots to score, so when they are in the redzone you favor the underdog. Get them a few easy scores by steering some minor calls in their favor at critical times. HEre is where you insert blatant holding on RAMS entire left side for the TD. Before you freak out, really go back and watch with an unbiased eye. There are others, but i wont go into every single call. Back to the point...so now the game is starting to take a turn for the unexpected and the niners are getting killed. I literally told the people i was watching the game with, "watch what happens now, the refs will start making weird calls in our favor". This is where the RAms are marching down the field with a possibility of going up 21-3. This would be a disaster really for ratings, people would start dropping like flies watching this game....so BAM phantom call on Cook (controversial), backs up the O and creates a momentum shift....The niners get to score on a defensive scheme that almost anyone in the world thinks is something even a high school coach would never call...ever. Niners back in the game, explosive play, game is now close (competitive). Now we go to the plays after the niners take a lead. This is where the calls start killing the niners again from going up toooo much and leaving the rams without any chance. They manage to keep this game going all the way until the final minute or so.

Yep.
 

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Seems like the Refs don't like to call holding on the Rams, no matter how obvious..I know I saw this live with my beer goggles on, what's the excuse for sober officials?

On the Anquan Boldin TD, the one where Kaep had lots of time? Gee...I wonder why..

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SMH how these non-calls continue to happen on a regular basis
 

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Seems like the Refs don't like to call holding on the Rams, no matter how obvious..I know I saw this live with my beer goggles on, what's the excuse for sober officials?

On the Anquan Boldin TD, the one where Kaep had lots of time? Gee...I wonder why..

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SMH how these continued non-calls continue to happen on a regular basis

I'm convinced our opponents are being coached to do this too. They see it on film and know it's not going to get called, so why the hell not?
 

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I'm convinced our opponents are being coached to do this too. They see it on film and know it's not going to get called, so why the hell not?

Yep...

still amazes me how consistent blatant penalties are missed yet we continue to get called for the ticky tack ones...
 

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Yep...

still amazes me how consistent blatant penalties are missed yet we continue to get called for the ticky tack ones...

It severely strains credibility to believe that it's just coincidental at this point.
 

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The NFL is fixed. Plain and simple. You really just have to do a little googling to find some really weird stuff. Look at the last few superbowls and championship games for proof. Go back to when the Steelers won against the Seahawks. The calls in that SB were so bad, that even years later the refs had to admit that the calls were atrocious.

Really wouldn't surprise me at this point. I usually get angry at opponents but for some reason this season has me more geared towards the "politics" involved. We had a defensive holding call after sacking Romo a couple of weeks ago and that was obviously a sack that should've been accounted for.
 

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Gee, I guess I don't sound so farfetched anymore. I've been pounding this drum for years, and getting some serious blowback for my outlier's view. I can't say I'm happy about others now feeling emotional enough to post about it as well, as I'd rather see the blatant manipulation of games go away. But until that happens, at least I don't feel like I'm on an island any longer.
The NFL is fixed. Plain and simple. You really just have to do a little googling to find some really weird stuff. Look at the last few superbowls and championship games for proof. Go back to when the Steelers won against the Seahawks. The calls in that SB were so bad, that even years later the refs had to admit that the calls were atrocious.

I'll bet you that either Dallas or Denver wins this next SB because of the ratings for manning or "America's Team". They cannot get enough bad calls in the world to help the JETS or GIANTS to go, and the Redskins wont change their name. Those are the ratings teams. Watch this, once the Redskins change their name (and they will eventually), in the next year or so afterwards, they will win a superbowl. It will be the NFL trying to rebrand and remarket an nfl team.

The next SB for next season might very well be the 49ers. New stadium hosting the superbowl, what better story than to have the home team play in it?

Really wouldn't surprise me at this point. I usually get angry at opponents but for some reason this season has me more geared towards the "politics" involved. We had a defensive holding call after sacking Romo a couple of weeks ago and that was obviously a sack that should've been accounted for.

It severely strains credibility to believe that it's just coincidental at this point.
 

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It's a young team, it's a losing team, it's a team that lost its starting QB, it's a team that has lost its backup QB, it's a team that has learned that no matter what it seems to do that the calls just aren't going to go their way.

Think about it: You're off to a 14-0 start. The calls are going your way. Until they aren't. And they aren't in a BIG WAY. You can't tell me that the guys in the huddle aren't bitching and complaining about the non-calls. At some point, this young team folds. Their body language reveals this, as the announcers stated more than once last night, and the announcers even said, "Can you blame them?"

What is going on is, imo, blatant. It should NOT be tolerated.

Should the rams have the cojones to come back and ignore the bad calls and just PLAY? Of course. But they are the youngest team in the league, and to just PLAY you have to have some sense of what you are playing for. This team, so far, has had ONE win, and that was a close one.

Do I think they will improve? Well, they may not win any -- or many -- more games, but I still believe that they will improve, probably by fits and starts, but it will be a crucible of fire that will forge them into a REAL football team.

Or at least that is what I'm hoping happens.