WR Amari Cooper, OT Adreas Peat have pre-draft visits with Rams today

[tahoe]

agree 100%

So many people think the Rams NEED to spend a 1st rounder on an offensive lineman and if they don't, it's going to be a really long season. Yes, the Rams have holes to fill on the O-Line, but there really isn't a right or wrong way to go about doing that. If the Rams resign Barksdale and draft Amari Cooper in the 1st and Laken Tomlinson in the 2nd...

This is my dream, sign Barks and draft Cooper and Tomlinson!

 

[Athos]

Yeah your right, But I think I heard that in 2012, oh also in 2013.....come to think about that I heard that in 2014. Thats OK cuz we know the Rams have a great history of always field fully functional OL's..silly me I have no reason to be concerned!

No need to be a smartass. And I don't remember spending premium picks on lineman in 12' or 13'. We waited until 14 to do that and I believe we all agree Snisher fucked that up.

As I said, BPA in the 1st won't kill us. Not taking quality OGs or a C prospect in the 2nd and 3rd, of which there will be plenty, is what will sink us.

So calm down.

 

[Memento]

I know visits don't mean that much, but I would rather we didn't end up with Peat. Much rather trade down and take Flowers or Humphries.

Humphries is so overrated and way too light for our system. Chaz Green has been, and always will be, a better Florida prospect than Humphries.

As for Flowers? I'd take Peat over him every day, especially Sunday.

 

[jrry32]

No need to be a smartass. And I don't remember spending premium picks on lineman in 12' or 13'. We waited until 14 to do that and I believe we all agree Snisher fucked that up.

As I said, BPA in the 1st won't kill us. Not taking quality OGs or a C prospect in the 2nd and 3rd, of which there will be plenty, is what will sink us.

So calm down.

Nope. I certainly don't agree.

 

[Athos]

Nope. I certainly don't agree.

I do. Not drafting really good linemen when they had the opportunity was an error. And if we had protected Sam more than we had, we might not have been flailing in the wind before and even still after the Foles trade a bit. Though I don't believe they used enough resources or used them wisely since the day Sam was drafted.

 

[jrry32]

Me too for cry's of joy & also concern, I simply think that Cooper is a great top 10 selection period.

The concern cry's that Snead's ability to insert quality skilled talent in this Ram OL will be diminished greatly & almost impossible. Thus dooming this team to another loosing season.

There's no need for doom and gloom. This team can take Cooper and still do the OL justice. They're not mutually exclusive events.

 

[jrry32]

I do. Not drafting really good linemen when they had the opportunity was an error. And if we had protected Sam more than we had, we might not have been flailing in the wind before and even still after the Foles trade a bit. Though I don't believe they used enough resources or used them wisely since the day Sam was drafted.

They did. His name is Greg Robinson.

Sam's injury was not due to lack of protection. It was a freak occurrence that could have happened behind any OL. He was barely touched.

They made sound choices last year...except maybe on Alexander. But we'll see. Then again, none of the OLs that went in the same general area as Alexander did much as rookies.

 

[Memento]

No need to be a smartass. And I don't remember spending premium picks on lineman in 12' or 13'. We waited until 14 to do that and I believe we all agree Snisher fucked that up.

As I said, BPA in the 1st won't kill us. Not taking quality OGs or a C prospect in the 2nd and 3rd, of which there will be plenty, is what will sink us.

So calm down.

Uh, they fucked up on G-Rob? And Rhaney hasn't really proven anything either way, but in my honest opinion, he's our starting center in 2015, and he never gives it up. I'll give you Mitchell van Dyk, of course, but getting Robinson, who has Willie Roaf potential? That's not fucking it up.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Just heard T.J. Clemmings interviewed on Sirius NFL Radio. He says he's got a Rams visit coming up.

 

[Athos]

Uh, they fucked up on G-Rob? And Rhaney hasn't really proven anything either way, but in my honest opinion, he's our starting center in 2015, and he never gives it up. I'll give you Mitchell van Dyk, of course, but getting Robinson, who has Willie Roaf potential? That's not freaking it up.

I only now realize I worded that phrase super poorly. What I meant by fucking it up is that, "Snisher fucked up waiting until 14" to address the offensive line with premium talent through the draft. Though, as I said, I'd argue that's held true since the day Bradford was drafted. The Rams erred greatly in not protecting their franchise talent better. Yes, the lack of weapons was disappointing that he had, but I think even with those inadequate weapons, he'd have looked much better with much better protection.

 

[jrry32]

I only now realize I worded that phrase super poorly. What I meant by freaking it up is that, "Snisher fucked up waiting until 14" to address the offensive line with premium talent through the draft. Though, as I said, I'd argue that's held true since the day Bradford was drafted. The Rams erred greatly in not protecting their franchise talent better. Yes, the lack of weapons was disappointing that he had, but I think even with those inadequate weapons, he'd have looked much better with much better protection.

They did try. They spent big money on Wells, Jake Long, and Saffold. They just didn't succeed. Seemed to me that they wanted to attack the OL with vets from FA while they stocked other positions with young talent. The guys we signed just didn't pan out. And it's not like we signed bad players...Long and Wells were both Pro Bowlers prior to coming here. It's just the risk you run in FA. We would have been better served going after the more cost effective FA options...although, Long was that...we just didn't luck out with his health.

 

[Dodgersrf]

They did. His name is Greg Robinson.

Sam's injury was not due to lack of protection. It was a freak occurrence that could have happened behind any OL. He was barely touched.

They made sound choices last year...except maybe on Alexander. But we'll see. Then again, none of the OLs that went in the same general area as Alexander did much as rookies.

The one thing we have seen from their draft choices is, they go for guys with high ceilings. It doesn't appear to scare them away if the player is a raw talent.
The guy's that are graded " pro ready, what you see is what you get", usually don't end up in horns.

 

[NERamsFan]

I'll take Cooper and then Erving in a trade up, thanks! Haha

 

[DaveFan'51]

I'll take Cooper and then Erving in a trade up, thanks! Haha

I'd be happy walking away, Day one, with these two too!

 

[thehammer]

some of us think they did screw up using Rob as a LT....losing teams seem to do that year after year after year

Bradford was hurt because he wasn't given enough time to heal...takes over a year to get muscle memory back..losing teams do seem to make those kind of decisions too.

have zero faith they won't end up making another Isiah Pead, Tavon Austin or Brian Quick type of selection this year...I expect the worse...anyone being remotely logical has to expect they will bungle this year too. Just they was it is...Fisher has had 6 winning seasons in 20 years as a head coach. Winners win and losers make bad decisions.

Love watching Baltimore, NE and Seattle's player moves whether in the draft, in free agency or by the contracts they are willing to be pay players...just logical & smart..wish I could say the same about the Rams.

Their #1 pick should be bpa..one of the wr's. They should sign Wisniewski because he is the most talented fa olineman then sign either Blaylock or Barksdale if they can BUT players with their abilities can be drafted in the 3rd rd or later... Rams could draft Daryl Williams and Jamon Brown later and get equal talent...

real knee slapper will be when they draft their qb of the future in the 2nd/3rd rd...anyone actually think they will get that right? My Money is on Hundley or Petty for the simple reason I think both will be busts....

 

[Athos]

I don't WANT to agree with hammer in this case, but I find myself floating that way. Though, we'll see if GRob is destined for elite LT status this year, or meant as an elite LG.

But beggars can't exactly be choosers when the Rams suffered long spurts of the worst drafting in the NFL until Snisher came aboard and started to restore some kind of order.

I am weary of wishful picking syndrome where players either take forever to develop, if they develop at all.

BPA would definitely be a WR if one is left. If not, you just gotta trade down.

 

[Corbin]

Anybody seen a complete list of our invitees yet?

 

[jrry32]

I expect the worse...anyone being remotely logical has to expect they will bungle this year too.

So basically what you're saying is that anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion isn't being remotely logical. Speaking of things not sounding remotely logical...

Bradford was hurt because he wasn't given enough time to heal...takes over a year to get muscle memory back..losing teams do seem to make those kind of decisions too.

Right. Because winning organizations don't play players in the preseason that tore their ACL the season before. They make them wait until a year has passed. No, I don't think that's accurate.

 

[Ballhawk]

I'm pretty sure that winning teams don't play a left tackle that is coming back from a knee injury and expect him to protect their QB that is coming back from a knee injury. Probably because of just what happened to the Rams when they tried it last year.
Watching Brady throw from a clean pocket most of the time tells you all that you need to know about winning football.