With so many veteran WRs, can LA Rams develop WRs for the future?

[So Ram]

I think it’s higher than that.



Super interested to see McCutcheon… Big and can run great routes? Sign me up!

Agree with Tutu Atwell. IMO him & Ben Sko both are 100%.

If anyone was watching the 2021 season knows he is like a poor man’s Cooper Kupp.The Rams WR’s might not get enough credit for there blocking. Ben Sko is a core special teams guy as well which puts him at that 100% level.

Tutu is a way better WR than Powell.Anyone who wants to
think a player under contract such as Atwell getting cut is a little silly.
—Tutu’s biggest negative was Covid protocol & injury. He was The Best Ram WR in the 3 game preseason.That puts him ahead of both Akers & Koski who both were able to get NFL experience as Rams Wr’s in 2021.

Add Tutu is being judge from Humphries of KC who The Rams could have drafted.I ate Crow last season & doubted Tutu Atwell. His not playing in 2022 will only be because of injury.He has to much talent not to make the roster.

 

[So Ram]

I think this is it with Harris. He’s an athletic mismatch to be used situationally in the passing game, out of the TE position.

Last year he lacked football size and toughness… too easily tossed around for a big guy. I am not sure if the knee injury hurt any development, but adding a few pounds this past offseason HAD to be a key goal for him.

Wondering how much bigger or stronger did Jacob Harris get ?
I saw him in training camp & he had a core body injury in between OTA’s & training camp.

Watching Harris who during OTA’s in 2021 was a rising star.My first impression was he doesn’t look good with shoulder pads.He has a weird(different) gate in his stride.

I can also say Ben Sko from day1 during training camp I said(thought) he will make The Rams roster.

As mentioned about what Harris can do as a TE/WR. IMO after say eating crow(not really) I found myself watching B. Hopkins last season.
The way he ended the 2021/22 season was night & day.
—Actually PROUD of Hopkins.

 

[So Ram]

Just to be clear,I am a big mouth fan.
Hopkins was a player I dug into just because of his demeanor & negative attitude. He & Blanton are tight as in players working hard together.

—B. HOPKINS is a Bad Azz!!! His first catch as a NFL (Ram) looked like he Was going to get a personal foul. He plays with confidence & with an attitude.
Hopkins dad played at a high level & so he comes from a football back ground. He like j.Harris both are smaller TE’s who are like winners.

What Hopkins did in the SuperBowl was seriously impressive.The Rams needed a wr to step & he did.IMO Ben Sko was IFFY. Not sure handed. Every caught pass by Hopkins was a Bonus.
Once OBj,Blanton got hurt it was on Hopkins at the Highest level.

I look at how The Rams develop players over the Mcvay years now.
Upfront who around here thought Noteboom,Allen, & Shelton would have played at a NFL level & all been resigned with multi year contracts?

I believe all that J.Harris can become B.Hopkins can become. I find it very very very very fascinating that RB’s coach Thomas Brown is now the TE’s coach.Wes Phillips was the first person(coach) to hug Sean Mcvay after the SuperBowl.

Shane Waldon - oc SeaHags
Wes Phillips - oc Vikings.

Thomas Brown was the Miami Hurricanes OC/RB coach from
2016-18 ???

I think when The Rams want to use a TE as a HB ? Hopkins might be that guy ? He fits everything Everett was in 2020.He loves to hit you & then let you know about it.He has that tough Bad Azz attitude when he plays.Just think there could be something there ? J. Harris can be that guy as well,but as far as football experience goes Hopkins is lite-years ahead in knowledge.

 

[So Ram]

I think you are correct. There's a reason he was available where they drafted him.

But in his favor a guy like McVay is a great person to play for. Maybe they figure out his best usage and if so he'll be fun to watch come off the bench and contribute.

Rams' Jacob Harris: Nearing full recovery

Rams' Jacob Harris: Nearing full recovery

www.cbssports.com

Looks like Harris might fill in more as a TE again on 2022. IMO The Rams take there time with him & give him training camp/preseason to work on his skills. He will then go on the IR list until he is ready & a (if) roster spot becomes available?

Jordan is Great. Her reports are excellent & positive for the most part.I will question her view(in-site)
from a far. I think she is very trusted inside The Rams fascilty’s.IMO there has never been a team reporter like her.She is almost like a Fan first & wants the best for the players & team.
The cool thing is she gets info & digs into the insight of what The Rams might be thinking.That’s why I will question J.Harris report above.She see’s and knows the talent in Harris is there.I just think timing & roster space will be his biggest issue.
—This is a unique situation with Harris.He needs so much experience & time to heal.Roster spits are also going to be hard to come by.He needs practice reps & more studying.

My biggest concern about Harris is knee & playing special teams.The young man has a lot of talent,but just needs another season(half) to really be able to make an impact at all.

 

[BonifayRam]

Isn't Robinson replacing Woods?

Certainly, as being utilized as a wideout he should be a great replacement,

Specifically where I was at in my post was in reference to the very successful run-blocking skills that Woods contains & has been involved in for so many seasons. What Robinson will be able to do in his run-blocking assignments ......remains to be seen.

 

[BonifayRam]

I say what I said because it makes more sense to keep him on the roster as a TE. He can be a duel role guy. The Rams aren't going to keep 8 or 9 WRs.....at least I hope not.
WR: Kupp, Robinson, Beckham, Jefferson, Atwell, Powell, Skow.....assuming, Odell comes back.
TE: Higbee, Blanton, Hopkins, Harris

Thats how I would do it.

Harris could easily add 30 lbs or more. He could fill that multi roll spot, lining up out wide, hand down on the line, in the back field as that sort of H-back spot.
Create mismatches esp lining up hand down.
If he needs to bulk up some.....who cares? He certainly has the frame to do it.

I have no issues at all with Jacob Harris putting on sizeable good muscle in pounds & my position like you is I would prefer it for future purposes. I would have hoped that Harris might have been the future replacement for Higbee when he departs in 2024.

Kendall Blanton will be involved in Free Agency in less than a year. Both Tyler Higbee & Brycen Hopkins will be UFA's in 2024. So your thoughts on Harris have merit & it's a future need!

 

[fearsomefour]

I have no issues at all with Jacob Harris putting on sizeable good muscle in pounds & my position like you is I would prefer it for future purposes. I would have hoped that Harris might have been the future replacement for Higbee when he departs in 2024.

Kendall Blanton will be involved in Free Agency in less than a year. Both Tyler Higbee & Brycen Hopkins will be UFA's in 2024. So your thoughts on Harris have merit & it's a future need!

And it doesn't have to be all muscle.....10 pounds of fat isn't going to hurt that guy at all.

 

[Merlin]

Kendall Blanton will be involved in Free Agency in less than a year. Both Tyler Higbee & Brycen Hopkins will be UFA's in 2024. So your thoughts on Harris have merit & it's a future need!

Blanton will be an RFA this next offseason so he has two years of team control just like Hopkins.

I think both those dudes looked great out there in the playoffs in that limited usage, so TE is a position that bears watching. Higs is a good all-around TE but he's never going to be a big time threat in the pass game. This means the Rams might end up restacking that group behind one of those young TEs, and that this year will be important for them to show the Rams they can be the guy.

Harris is kind of a special case I think. He just needs to show he's a dangerous enough weapon to win a roster spot, which should be doable given how good he is on teams. But he'll definitely need to show development for that to happen because that TE4 will be competing with the bottom WR types on that final cut.

 

[Kupped]

I think it idiotic to list Harris as a WR.

But that’s what the team is using him as.

He’s 215.

 

[Kupped]

Yes......and?
There is no reason Harris can't put on weight.
He should be entering this camp at 240 lbs I would think.
The ACL injury hurts in this aspect as well of course as he loses training time under the bar.
The idea with playing/listing Harris as a TE is not to create a road grading TE.

Harris isn't going to crack the top 3 of the Rams receiving corp (or top 4 if Odell is resigned). The Rams already have a young experimental player at WR they can get creative with in Tutu.
By moving Harris around....hand down at TE, out wide, in the backfield as an H-back sort of guy....the Rams can get creative with his size and athleticism. With teams being forced to focus on Kupp, Robinson, Higbee, Jefferson and the rest, he could be used to create some massive mismatches. At the very least it will give teams another piece to have to account for. He doesn't have to be great in his blocking assignments (assuming there won't be a ton of those), he just needs to be good enough.
Harris is a tweener. There is no getting around that.
But, there is also zero reason he can't put on considerable weight.
To me it is pretty clear.
Either get creative with him and have a guy with great athleticism who can expand the offense and create possible mismatches, or, have him sit on the bench as the 5th or 6th WR all year and that's it.
The Rams didn't need to draft Tutu and they didn't need to draft Harris.
Im hoping they plan on getting creative with them instead of holding them as depth guys for 3 or 4 years until their rookie deals are up.

The Rams like his height and speed. Pretty sure I heard Jourdan say they have no interest in having him put on weight.

 

[Kupped]

Blanton will be an RFA this next offseason so he has two years of team control just like Hopkins.

I think both those dudes looked great out there in the playoffs in that limited usage, so TE is a position that bears watching. Higs is a good all-around TE but he's never going to be a big time threat in the pass game. This means the Rams might end up restacking that group behind one of those young TEs, and that this year will be important for them to show the Rams they can be the guy.

Harris is kind of a special case I think. He just needs to show he's a dangerous enough weapon to win a roster spot, which should be doable given how good he is on teams. But he'll definitely need to show development for that to happen because that TE4 will be competing with the bottom WR types on that final cut.

I look at that situation and think it could easily be a place the Rams look for some cap space in the near future. There's only a 1.5 million dead cap for losing Higbee after this season. I like him, but money could probably go elsewhere.

 

[So Ram]

I look at that situation and think it could easily be a place the Rams look for some cap space in the near future. There's only a 1.5 million dead cap for losing Higbee after this season. I like him, but money could probably go elsewhere.

Higbee is one of those veteran Rams that is going to earn his.I really am not a Fan of this type of thinking.I get & use to do the Cap Space thing.

He is just such a part of what The Rams under Sean Mcvay mean.I won’t say it won’t happen either.There is a lot that goes into moves & trades.

Robert Woods trade is a good example,but I see Tyler Higbee having one of his better seasons as a Ram.His blocking & knowledge separates him from the pack.

 

[So Ram]

But that’s what the team is using him as.

He’s 215.

That was last season. It’s a new season & he never proved himself as a WR. The reports coming out of OTA’s is he is working with the TE group again.
Mcvay did come out & say he was a WR,then once again things change.I see him as a Red zone threat once he gets healthy.
Harris from what Merlin is saying about him on teams might change as well.He got hurt in punt coverage & was having body issues early on.IMO he will be put on the IR once the preseason ends.Thise reps & playing time is priceless,plus playing through pain or injury is part of being an NFL Player.Don’t know if you saw the Floyd(Rams) interview.

 

[So Ram]

And it doesn't have to be all muscle.....10 pounds of fat isn't going to hurt that guy at all.

His blocking might be a issue as of now.He wasn’t a football player & the transition from soccer to football is a big difference when your talking about playing TE. WR no as much because speed & getting free in space should come natural.

 

[Kupped]

That was last season. It’s a new season & he never proved himself as a WR. The reports coming out of OTA’s is he is working with the TE group again.
Mcvay did come out & say he was a WR,then once again things change.I see him as a Red zone threat once he gets healthy.
Harris from what Merlin is saying about him on teams might change as well.He got hurt in punt coverage & was having body issues early on.IMO he will be put on the IR once the preseason ends.Thise reps & playing time is priceless,plus playing through pain or injury is part of being an NFL Player.Don’t know if you saw the Floyd(Rams) interview.

Honestly didn’t see a report about him working as a TE… all I read was about him not being in drills as he rehabs.
He’s gonna be a jumbo slot, imo. He’s not going in line.

 

[fearsomefour]

The Rams like his height and speed. Pretty sure I heard Jourdan say they have no interest in having him put on weight.

Thats too bad.
Likely a wasted pick.
Unless of course the Rams are doing their thing with planning well ahead.
A replacement for Jefferson perhaps.

 

[Loyal]

I think it’s higher than that.



Super interested to see McCutcheon… Big and can run great routes? Sign me up!

Ain’t no way we are getting rid of Tutu. I mean, how many football players are cross trained at WR and Center?

 

[So Ram]

Thats too bad.
Likely a wasted pick.
Unless of course the Rams are doing their thing with planning well ahead.
A replacement for Jefferson perhaps.

I’d say he isn’t a wasted pick,but rather needs more time to develop in a player he is going to be.

If you look at The Rams track record for as easy examples.

OBo
Lawler
Howard

so it won’t be about Jacob Harris being a wasted pick,more than how he will develop.—Special teams & a Nick Scott type is what he was supposed to be.

Ben Sko has stepped up & those 2 players are tight since coming up as rookies.-Another season to get bigger & stronger. Harris can still add depth
with that new 21 day rule ? Not exactly sure how that works though.

 

[Rams43]

Harris’ Rams future is yet tbd. He’s a tweener and we all know it.

Personally, I consider him a mismatch receiving threat, and a very tantalizing one, at that.

But he’s not a blocker as yet and we all know how McVay insists on his WR’s blocking excellence. Besides, who does McVay wanna sit to get Harris on the field as a WR?

I think he’s too light to be a TE, frankly.

Like I said, he’s a tweener. So, question is just what is McVay’s plan for Harris? And can he pull it off?

Not completely unlike McVay’s plan for Atwell on this crowded WR roster.

 

[dang]

Harris’ Rams future is yet tbd. He’s a tweener and we all know it.

Personally, I consider him a mismatch receiving threat, and a very tantalizing one, at that.

But he’s not a blocker as yet and we all know how McVay insists on his WR’s blocking excellence. Besides, who does McVay wanna sit to get Harris on the field as a WR?

I think he’s too light to be a TE, frankly.

Like I said, he’s a tweener. So, question is just what is McVay’s plan for Harris? And can he pull it off?

Not completely unlike McVay’s plan for Atwell on this crowded WR roster.

Reminds me of Nelson Spruce to be honest.