Will there or won’t there be competition for starting punter?

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Will there or won’t there be competition for starting punter?​

The LA Rams ended the 2020 season with a pledge from head coach Sean McVay. That pledge? To improve every aspect of their team with the introduction of competition. Even at quarterback? Yes, especially at quarterback.

And that marked the beginning of the end of the LA Rams relationship with starting quarterback Jared Goff. The LA Rams paid Goff to perform among the best of the NFL, to generate the type of production to ensure that the Rams offense remained among the Top-10 scoring offenses of the NFL. But perhaps even more than that, the Rams paid Goff to secure the football and minimize errors that would create turnovers.

In 2020, Goff was unable to deliver in either category. Not a mere slip, but an outright regressive freefall. And it happened despite the Rams coaching staff emphasizing the need to improve at the quarterback area in several key areas. And when the 2020 season opened, there was reason to believe that some critical improvements were addressed.

The objective for Goff in 2020 was to learn how to throw off-sequence and from multiple platforms. Goff had gotten into the bad habit of throwing without velocity and off his back foot. That was a problem that needed correction. The problem was, after showing signs of improvement early in the season, Goff fell back into the horrifying bad habits once more. McVay had seen enough.

That underachievement set a number of events in motion that began with the surprising comments from head coach Sean McVay. It may have been fueled by disappointment or frustration, but the words are now a matter of public record. That’s a very important point for what comes next. Crucial, in fact.

Drop back and punt

The statement made by LA Rams head coach Sean McVay was shocking but final. Whether deliberately or without forethought, the Rams placed 53-players from the roster on notice. The 2020 season ended with disappointment, and the Rams were determined to ensure that anyone on the roster deemed ‘good enough’ was no longer good enough. Huh? Well, don’t take my word for it. McVay started it.

You see, statements from a head coach, whether calm or so livid that his face turns purple, carry significant weight and meaning when uttered.

That particular statement uttered by a very frustrated and angry LA Rams head coach Sean McVay cut across the entire roster, perhaps even more than originally intended. But when he was afforded the opportunity to restate his intentions, he doubled down by repeating the claim.

The statement was put out there into the media that the LA Rams would be competing at each and every position, but was the team prepared to see that through? Well, the front office certainly seemed to take it all at face value because they added the NFL’s best punter, Corey Bojorquez, off waivers this offseason. Bojorquez is very good, folks. He’s also rather young.

Pairing his addition to the Rams roster with the head coach’s statement of competition at every position, the logical conclusion was that the LA Rams was creating competition for the punter role. After all, Hekker was one of the highest-paid punters in the NFL. Until 2020, he was worth every penny. However, last season? Not so much.

Saving dollars with some change

As with every competition on an NFL roster, the criteria involve production on the football field, as well as the strain on the pursestrings. In any contrast and comparison, that ‘how much will he cost” component is always part of the roster build. The key to success at the NFL GM level, therefore, is to fit the best cohesive roster under the annual NFL salary cap.

Paying too much for a player can be as fatal as not obtaining enough talent. And so, the financial impact of Johnny Hekker’s contract became a talking point for the ‘compete at every position’ 2021 Rams. Behold, there were substantial savings to the team if the Rams found reason to promote another punter to the starting role.

Why would the Rams even consider starting any punter in the NFL? Well, Corey Bojorquez is not just any ole punter. He was the best punter in the NFL in 2020. For comparison purposes, Johnny Hekker was ranked 21st among NFL punters in 2020. That is significant because the 5.2 yards improvement in gross yards was nearly matched by 4.3 yards in net yardage. If you factor that in on the number of punts over the course of a season, and suddenly the Rams added nearly 300 additional yards that opposing offenses needed to claim on the football field.

Better production for a cheaper cost? That is often enough incentive to push an NFL team to move quickly. But this is Johnny Hekker after all, right? He is still deserving of some patience. After all, he is the last holdout to ST coordinator John Fassel’s regime with the Rams.

Even Hekker admits underperformance

Why would anyone dare to hold LA Rams star punter up for any discernment or scrutiny? Think back to the comments made by head coach Sean McVay. Competition on the entire roster. But surely that doesn’t apply to Johnny Hekker, right? Tell that to Hekker, who took it all in stride. Does he deserve competition? Yes. Why?

Well, perhaps because as he admits himself, 2020 was one of his worst NFL seasons:

“I definitely did not perform to the best of my abilities,” Hekker said. “There were a few games that I really, I don’t know, just kind of got just may be ahead of myself mentally. . . . There were definitely some kicks out there that I would have liked to have seen go better for the team. When I don’t put our team in good positions, that’s the stuff that really bugs me.” –per Johnny Hekker via ProFootballTalk NBCSports Charean Williams

And as far as competition? Surely a tried and tested veteran doesn’t want to go back to square one and fight for his job, does he? What is Hekker’s perspective on the sudden surprising addition of the NFL’s best punter from 2020?

“When push comes to shove, they have to make the best decisions for this roster. And there’s no running around the financial aspect of it. So, you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do to put together the best roster that you can.” ” –per Johnny Hekker as reported by LA Times Gary Klein

And there is the whole narrative, laid out rather neatly. Practically anyone attached to a special team’s specific role for the LA Rams under ST coordinator John Fassel has been scooped up by the Dallas Cowboys. Johnny Hekker is the last remaining holdout. Will the Rams do the unthinkable, and part ways from Johnny Hekker? Well here comes another unexpected twist in the road.

Retraction

Despite the pledge to compete at each and every spot on the roster, once the evidence was assembled and the logic was presented back to the LA Rams regarding any plans to create competition at the punter position, the Rams head coach Sean McVay retracted his earlier pledge to create competition everywhere.

While he agreed with McVay, Snead pointed out that training camp is filled with competition by its very nature. And by hinting at such, Snead was leaving the door open for any future decisions to go either way.

So here we are, trying to gauge the potential of the LA Rams roster, and trying to understand what roster decisions have yet to be made, and which roster positions are still undecided. As popular as punter Johnny Hekker might be with the entire fanbase of the LA Rams, I am not convinced that he is an automatic starter in 2021. Loyalty? I get it. Hekker has done great things for the Rams over the years.

Still, Jared Goff is gone because good enough is no longer good enough at quarterback. Austin Blythe is gone because good enough is no longer good enough at the offensive center. Michael Brockers is gone because good enough is no longer good enough at defensive lineman. Johnny Hekker was ranked 21st out of 32 punters in the NFL in 2020. Is that good enough for the LA Rams? Good enough wasn’t good enough for three other veterans who were very loyal to the team. This could be a very intriguing developing story throughout this training camp.
 

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Some of the rationale for three punters in camp was because of the Long Snapper competition because the unforgotten Punter in camp is Branden Wright and I know they are asking him to kickoff quite often, so that's why he's still in camp, but apparently not in the conversation.

@Elmgrovegnome communicated if Bojorquez is so good, why was he available? Sometimes for kickers & punters, that just happens. Johnny Hekker is the best punter in Cleveland/Los Angeles/St. Louis/Los Angeles Ram history, there is no debating that and @Elmgrovegnome also feels that Hekker will be up to the challenge, he'd better be because Bojorquez is a boomer Bojorquez averaged 50.8 yards per punt last season. That’s fourth best in NFL history.
 

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So.....
Johnny Hekker IS the Rams Punter.....



"Right now"

Apparently Bojorquez can throw too.
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Some more information as to why Bojorquez was available.

It’s at least a mild surprise the Bills moved on from Bojorquez, who last year set a team record for gross average and led the NFL at 50.8 yards on his 41 punts. His net average of 44.0 yards was a team record and ranked fifth in the league. Bojorquez was a restricted free agent, but the Bills decided not to tender him a contract offer, which would have cost at least $2.133 million for one season.

 
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Not a chance, these camp legs are more so we can figure out our return guy without killing Johnny's leg. He's our man.

I can see him becoming a cap casualty down the line eventually, simply because he's an expensive punter (but worth it) but I also know that around the time we may be looking at a QB on a rookie contract. There's also the possibility Matthew, having already made his millions and millions, decides to go cheaper shorter contracts so the team can stay competitive.

Either way, I don't see Hekker leaving us for a while, maybe not ever. You don't easily ditch a guy who's on a HOF path, especially as a punter.
 

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Seemed like Hekker had a down year last season. At least for his standards. I wonder if McVay wants to light a fire under him? Showing that no one's job is guaranteed if you don't perform to the best of your ability. Its not what you've done for me lately. Its what you're doing for me now.
 

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If he didn’t expect to compete for the job, what would be Bojorquez rationale picking the Rams to sign?

I can’t imagine Hekker being cut.… why did Bojorquez pick here?
 

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So.....
Johnny Hekker IS the Rams Punter

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"Right now"
I had a laugh there but you know what... You are correct. Hekk's job is definitely up for competition. If he punts in camp like he usually does he'll be fine of course. But coming off a down year all I can say is Goff's trading demonstrates that nobody is safe. Nobody.

And personally I like that. Rams will pay you well if you're great. If not they will make the change. WRT the Punter position they are pre-positioned to replace him if he doesn't have a bounceback season and that starts with how he punts in camp.
 

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Corey Bojorquez is not just a camp leg. He is a legitimately good NFL punter. I believe Hekker retains his starter status but there is competition for punter.
 

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Some of the rationale for three punters in camp was because of the Long Snapper competition because the unforgotten Punter in camp is Branden Wright and I know they are asking him to kickoff quite often, so that's why he's still in camp, but apparently not in the conversation.

@Elmgrovegnome communicated if Bojorquez is so good, why was he available? Sometimes for kickers & punters, that just happens. Johnny Hekker is the best punter in Cleveland/Los Angeles/St. Louis/Los Angeles Ram history, there is no debating that and @Elmgrovegnome also feels that Hekker will be up to the challenge, he'd better be because Bojorquez is a boomer Bojorquez averaged 50.8 yards per punt last season. That’s fourth best in NFL history.
I have been pleasantly surprised at the number of quality punters around the league in recent years and immediately thought that Bojorquez was brought in to compete with Hekker for the job. The depth in the league at the position could explain Bojorquez' availability. But there is more to punting than just distance. Hekker has been masterful at pinning teams inside the ten through the years. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds and what comes next. I'm betting on Hekker, but no matter which one wins, I'll be interested to see what happens next. What is a good punter worth just before the season? They cannot stash Bojorquez on the PS without having him claimed. What kind of draft pick can they get for a good punter? Does Hekker's contract make him less tradeable, or does his track record make him more desirable?
 

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I have no doubt why Bojorquez will be the punter. Why? Because McVay IMO is going to change his approach to the game. It's evidenced by the drafting of players like Ernest Jones, Bobby, and Earnest Brown. Jones and E. Brown are early down players and like I said in other posts, IMO it indicates McVay is going to play a field position game. Sean wants to get the opposition offense behind the chains early and use that dominant defense to get INTs or 3 and outs. It's all about getting out front early on the scoreboard and forcing other teams to play from behind against a dominant defense.

So part of that will be to have a strong-legged punter to force the opposition to play on a long field. Conversely, it's why they want speed in the Ram return game and look to have Otis Anderson make this roster as the #4 RB/KR/PR. A friend who dabbles in sports analytics told me that Otis Anderson's game film shows him running in games often at a sub 4.4 time and that combined with his quickness makes him a natural returner as well as receiving RB. This would give the Rams incredible speed depth at RB with Akers, Henderson, Funk, and Anderson.

Greg the leg lost his job because good enough isn't enough even back then. As popular as Hekker is he's clearly on the bubble. Bojorquez would have to lose the job in TC at this point and Hekker would have to prove last year was an anomaly. It's why I've been saying guys like SJD, Okoronkwo among others are bubble sitters with their replacements already on the roster. B. Brown replacing SJD, E. Brown replacing Okoronkwo. I just hope good enough isn't good enough applies to Havenstein before he gets Stafford hurt.

This season will be a different McVay. He's going to take ownership of the entire game. He's not going to just create an offensive scheme, he's going to game plan his entire approach to the game. That is to say, he's going to use his offense and defense both to game manage the result. McVay is a micro-manager by nature, so now he's going to extend that to the game in its entirety. It's no different than the approach taken by Bill Belichick during the Pat's heyday. It's clear to me that McVay and Snead have every intention of building a Super Bowl dynasty in LA and I for one say it's about time.
 

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If he didn’t expect to compete for the job, what would be Bojorquez rationale picking the Rams to sign?

I can’t imagine Hekker being cut.… why did Bojorquez pick here?

Well, here is the way I look at it. If I'm Bojorquez I was the best punter overall in 2020 and the Rams pay their guys as long as they produce, the Bills decided to go with another punter that was less expensive. Bojorquez comes in and believes he can beat out Hekker, he's younger and feels he is just as good of an athlete so let's strap them up and go.

You have to feel like that as a player and the year that Bojorquez just had I'm sure he feels after I beat out Hekker and have another year like 2020, the Rams will give me contract similar to Hekker & now I will become their best punter in their history...Let's Go!
 

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it kind of gnarly thinking anyone could replace hekker, but i'm guessing this guy might...

go rams

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This season will be a different McVay. He's going to take ownership of the entire game. He's not going to just create an offensive scheme, he's going to game plan his entire approach to the game. That is to say, he's going to use his offense and defense both to game manage the result. McVay is a micro-manager by nature, so now he's going to extend that to the game in its entirety. It's no different than the approach taken by Bill Belichick during the Pat's heyday. It's clear to me that McVay and Snead have every intention of building a Super Bowl dynasty in LA and I for one say it's about time.

Wow, that is quite a bit to digest there and you have been the only one touting Otis Anderson, so your theory is plausible with his ability to return both kickoffs & punts, while also offering another option in the passing game.

As to Bojorquez i believe this is a win win, if he outkicks Hekker, Rams will make a move and I could see a team like the Raiders or of course the Cowboys giving up a conditional draft choice for Hekker. If that does happen the transformation would be complete. McVay has his ST Coach he likes in the veteran Joe DeCamillis, plus a new Kicker, Punter & deep snapper. Would be something if the Rams play the Cowboys in the playoffs to see how that theory and transition plays out.
 

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I guess it all depends on how TC plays out, but I didn't realize the punter they signed was that good tbh.

Hekker would be a tough one to see go, but it definitely appears to be an open competition atm
 

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open competition??

for what it's worth, it's been an open competition at rams camp since the moment mcvay arrived, and unless you show up in a yellow jacket (arron/jalen), you better be prepared to compete...

i remember all my sportsbar buddies freaking on me when i said rapp was the lucky guy to be where he was when the ball arrived, but to me he seemed to always be trailing when tackling or in coverage (slow)... and when i brought up the fact that ogletree ALWAYS was late, i got lambasted for that too...

i may be premature on rapp, but on tree, i knew what i saw.... and he was gone the next year...

sometimes guys just get lucky and make highlights, but i believe this staff REALLY does their homework....

love being a ramsfan with the kind of over the top analysis the brass on the rams puts in....

in other words, if i'm lucky enough to spot something, they sure as hell aint gonna miss it...

go rams

slo
 

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If we didn't have Hekker, then the other guy whos name I can't type would have the job, easily.

If Hekker returns to form, there is no way he loses the gig.
 

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If Hekker returns to form, there is no way he loses the gig.

That is what we all used to say about Greg the leg but Hekker is 31 years old now. The Rams are asking themselves was last year a sign of his age catching up to him? Also, they will have a ton of FA to sign next year. Releasing him now might get them a comp pick but more importantly, it will clear $4.7 M of cap.

That is why I think it's Bojorquez's job to lose not the other way around. Age and cap is what gets them all eventually. If Bojorquez simply kicks consistently well that's all it will take no matter how well Hekker kicks. Hekker will be kicking for TC film for his next team.
 

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Dug up stats for this when we signed the new guy so just going to copy and paste my post from that thread...


Average per punt is maybe the third most important statistic to me for a punter. First would be ability to get them downed inside the 20 and 10 yard lines and the next would be hang time. As long as the average punt is staying above 44-45 it's probably fine if other statistics are good.

For inside the 20 they are both almost equal in 2020... Bojo is 44% and Hekker is 43% of his punts.

For hang time, I can't seem to find specific numbers by season but fair catch percentage is probably a fair, albeit not perfect, statistic to gauge that.
Fair catch... Bojo = 15% where Hekker blows him out with 29% of his punts last year were fair catches.

How often do punters get touchbacks? Again Hekker's favor.
Touchback chance per punt 2020... Bojo = 17% Hekker = 7%

And of course you have Hekker's trick play ability, intelligence, leadership, and energy which is hard to match. Makes me hope we keep him and see if he can rebound in 2021 his average a little bit. Hekker has literally been a top three, arguably best overall, punter in NFL history most of his career. So I think people maybe got spoiled a bit when he started having a few less than stellar punts that killed his average for the year.

Ok, I've dug out stats for punters... I've officially wasted too much time on this subject.