Will the trend continue?

[Q729]

And birds are really drones

I thought that was just me.

 

[0311rams]

The trend of Shanahan blowing a big lead or the game even on sunday. That's a trend I can get behind! Go chiefs, go rams/24

 

[Rambitious1]

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[oldnotdead]

does your shoulder get sore from patting yourself on the back?

People here give me shit when I say stuff but never that I was right when I am. HMMMM wonder why. LMFAO.

I looked at the talent on the roster and the schedule. It wasn't a blind guess and I've said that multiple times. I'm sorry if your grapes are sour.

 

[Allen2McVay]

People here give me shit when I say stuff but never that I was right when I am. HMMMM wonder why. LMFAO.

I looked at the talent on the roster and the schedule. It wasn't a blind guess and I've said that multiple times. I'm sorry if your grapes are sour.

That's fair.

You were optimistic before the Season started. You consistently predicted 10 or 11 wins, and a playoff spot

You were one of the few, and you were right.

You also get some stuff wrong ... as we all do.

Not a great look to compliment oneself unless it's balanced with some humility and self-deprecating humor.

 

[RhodyRams]

People here give me shit when I say stuff but never that I was right when I am. HMMMM wonder why. LMFAO.

I looked at the talent on the roster and the schedule. It wasn't a blind guess and I've said that multiple times. I'm sorry if your grapes are sour.

but on the other hand, you never admit to being wrong either

 

[JimY53]

People here give me shit when I say stuff but never that I was right when I am.

Make known your 2023 prediction, and stick by it!!!

Hey all. Hi! You may think me crazy but my very specific and realistic prediction is that this year, yes this 2023 season, our Rams will make it to the Super Bowl! Yes, during this "re-tooling" year. I can just feel it brewing. It's gonna happen and it's gonna shock the NFL. No one expects it...

ramsondemand.com

Usually focus on your issues about not understanding the defense but, how about this ... I seached and found this from before I joined. You deserve credit, you made an excellent prediction.

HMMMM wonder why. LMFAO.

Why? Maybe because you are wrong more?

I looked at the talent on the roster and the schedule. It wasn't a blind guess and I've said that multiple times.

You deserved credit. And if you looked at the talent and the schedule and made that prediction, good -- well done.,

I'm sorry if your grapes are sour.

Well, as long as you are willing to take it if you are willing to dish it out.

Seems to me that you wanted a certain DC fired in at the midseason of the year he helped in the SB win. And he was part of the 2023 playoff season. And in both cases, looking at the Raheem and other threads, you did nothing but dump on him.

Have you ever admitted you were wrong?

Not only that, the WAY you dumped on the DC was another level of wrong. Morally wrong. Not that the job was not as good as you wanted but that he was a coward and stupid. Saying a coach is not up to your expectations but to post scores of times that you know things he does not or that he's somehow not competent is other-level wrong.

Have you ever admitted you were wrong?

And then, in addition to the attacking of a Rams coach personnally --- no reasonable person thinks and NFL coach runs a stupid scheme or is scared. No one. It's absurd --- you tried to explain WHY you thought he was running a stupid scheme and stupidly using his players (playing favorites).

You maintained he was running things he did not run ... a two-gap NT when it was really a gap-1/2 and that Morris was doing things differently than Staley and that Morris relied heavily on his "roots" in the Tampa-2 and showed a fundamental misundersanding of what a boundary CB was or that the Rams did not have a SS or a FS ...

All those things, plus many more were wrong.

Have you ever admitted that you were wong on those?

So, sure, you deserve credit for prediciting Rams would be a 2023 playoff team. And if they go deep into 2024 playoffs a "Super Bowl run" then even more so.

But you probably don't get as much credit for the few times you are right is because you are wrong so much more and in those cases you don't admit it.

Make sense?

 

[dang]

Make known your 2023 prediction, and stick by it!!!

Hey all. Hi! You may think me crazy but my very specific and realistic prediction is that this year, yes this 2023 season, our Rams will make it to the Super Bowl! Yes, during this "re-tooling" year. I can just feel it brewing. It's gonna happen and it's gonna shock the NFL. No one expects it...

ramsondemand.com

Usually focus on your issues about not understanding the defense but, how about this ... I seached and found this from before I joined. You deserve credit, you made an excellent prediction.




Why? Maybe because you are wrong more?


You deserved credit. And if you looked at the talent and the schedule and made that prediction, good -- well done.,


Well, as long as you are willing to take it if you are willing to dish it out.

Seems to me that you wanted a certain DC fired in at the midseason of the year he helped in the SB win. And he was part of the 2023 playoff season. And in both cases, looking at the Raheem and other threads, you did nothing but dump on him.

Have you ever admitted you were wrong?

Not only that, the WAY you dumped on the DC was another level of wrong. Morally wrong. Not that the job was not as good as you wanted but that he was a coward and stupid. Saying a coach is not up to your expectations but to post scores of times that you know things he does not or that he's somehow not competent is other-level wrong.

Have you ever admitted you were wrong?

And then, in addition to the attacking of a Rams coach personnally --- no reasonable person thinks and NFL coach runs a stupid scheme or is scared. No one. It's absurd --- you tried to explain WHY you thought he was running a stupid scheme and stupidly using his players (playing favorites).

You maintained he was running things he did not run ... a two-gap NT when it was really a gap-1/2 and that Morris was doing things differently than Staley and that Morris relied heavily on his "roots" in the Tampa-2 and showed a fundamental misundersanding of what a boundary CB was or that the Rams did not have a SS or a FS ...

All those things, plus many more were wrong.

Have you ever admitted that you were wong on those?

So, sure, you deserve credit for prediciting Rams would be a 2023 playoff team. And if they go deep into 2024 playoffs a "Super Bowl run" then even more so.

But you probably don't get as much credit for the few times you are right is because you are wrong so much more and in those cases you don't admit it.

Make sense?

Sorry I gotta weigh in JimY53 as I’ve been contemplating it for about a month. This forum is full of opinions (good/bad), predictions (right/wrong), emotions (ecstatic/pissed off/happy/sad). But it’s also full of long time dedicated Rams fans. Some who has been posting on this forum for 10+ years. And there is a bit of a pecking order that’s been established for the long time dedicated posters. I myself am relatively new so I try to keep that in mind. While I can appreciate your VERY detailed postings and analysis - I find your self-proclaimed position of authority and superiority a bit much. Especially for a very new forum member. I am sharing this because I feel this will only get worse if not called out. I love you as a fellow Rams fan but my recommendation if you want to be heard more is to listen more and take one step down from your ladder of superiority. Now feel free to respond with 20 pages of narrative, flowcharts and PowerPoint presentations. But before doing so remember I’m making this statement out of love for you as an obvious passionate Rams fan.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Not a great look to compliment oneself unless it's balanced with some humility and self-deprecating humor.

I admire a poster like @Loyal who frequently shows Humility and Self-Deprecating Humor in his posts.

And, should @Loyal ever get anything right, he will be entitled to point it out and compliment himself ... Literally ANYTHING ... Ever.

 

[Memento]

I admire a poster like @Loyal who frequently shows Humility and Self-Deprecating Humor in his posts.

And, should @Loyal ever get anything right, he will be entitled to point it out and compliment himself ... Literally ANYTHING ... Ever.

What about me? I can - and have - admit I'm wrong...a lot of times, lawl.

 

[JimY53]

And there is a bit of a pecking order that’s been established for the long time dedicated posters.

I agree with that. And that is never a good thing. It's the very definition of "the esablishment". People can sure stick to it if they want. They can ignore. But they need to look up the definition of the word and results when acted on.

I myself am relatively new so I try to keep that in mind. While I can appreciate your VERY detailed postings and analysis - I find your self-proclaimed position of authority and superiority a bit much.

There is no ladder of superiority -- just opinions with evidence than can be cooroborated.

People, in my opinion, are upset because they don't like someone who is new back up their opinions with facts. If offends them. It means they can no long just spout things with no proof -- it upsets the pecking order -- upsets the estbalishment, their fiefdom.

It seems to me for too long unreasonable opinions went unchallenged and minority or unpopular views like mine are suppressed by a mob of esablished people who don't like seeing orodoxy challenged.

Now feel free to respond with 20 pages of narrative, flowcharts and PowerPoint presentations.

I will continue to do that, not matter how much people mock it. That comes from the need to be thorough. From pas experience people prefer to just argue over words -- "I think A" and "No, It's B".

But stats, charts, as you call them ... can actually show B is a better expanation than A. Also, I show film clips and from them people can draw their own explanations. I've used those to show, for example what a 0-tech does.

So, sure, I g et what you are saying and why, but imagine me having already been through this elsewhere knowing that rather than argue back and forth THEN getting evidience I now just lead with the evidence and it does come across as "suerpior". It's like that because it comes from a place of this: Don't post things unless you are sure you are right. That does not mean it is always right, but it means the research and thought process is done THEN posted.

And also, long narratives are needed because if you leave one little thing out, you will get some nitpick of "you left this out or that out". I have to cover as many bases as possible. Cannot do all of them, but as many as I can think of.

As far as the plays, the schemes, the names of things ... those are only for those interested in learning about the schemes. It's not for everyone, not should it it.

Not may want to know what the responsibilites of players are in quarters or cover-6 or whatever. Some get downright mad. But that's their problem.

obvious passionate Rams fan.

Look, I don't mind being the bad guy. It's okay. I get attacked by people and not whine about it, I just respond in kind.

So, I appreciate your comment. And it comes down to one thing --- and it ticks people off. A smal group of people hate Morris and they talked crap about him for a few years and got to say whatever they wanted and those who defended Morris were outnumbered.

But people would jsut say "3rd and 15 blah, blah, blah" and Rams were good on 3rd and 15. They'd say "two-gap and blah, blah, blah". And now, challenged, they don't like it.

They don't like the messenger because the don't like the message. If the messanger were St. Francis de Sales they'd be offended at the message because it was pro-Morris.

That's how I see it. They are mad and what the newbie voted off the island because he's not nice to the hierarchy. But I do apprecite your words. I can tell they are sincere.

 

[dang]

I agree with that. And that is never a good thing. It's the very definition of "the esablishment". People can sure stick to it if they want. They can ignore. But they need to look up the definition of the word and results when acted on.


There is no ladder of superiority -- just opinions with evidence than can be cooroborated.

People, in my opinion, are upset because they don't like someone who is new back up their opinions with facts. If offends them. It means they can no long just spout things with no proof -- it upsets the pecking order -- upsets the estbalishment, their fiefdom.

It seems to me for too long unreasonable opinions went unchallenged and minority or unpopular views like mine are suppressed by a mob of esablished people who don't like seeing orodoxy challenged.



I will continue to do that, not matter how much people mock it. That comes from the need to be thorough. From pas experience people prefer to just argue over words -- "I think A" and "No, It's B".

But stats, charts, as you call them ... can actually show B is a better expanation than A. Also, I show film clips and from them people can draw their own explanations. I've used those to show, for example what a 0-tech does.

So, sure, I g et what you are saying and why, but imagine me having already been through this elsewhere knowing that rather than argue back and forth THEN getting evidience I now just lead with the evidence and it does come across as "suerpior". It's like that because it comes from a place of this: Don't post things unless you are sure you are right. That does not mean it is always right, but it means the research and thought process is done THEN posted.

And also, long narratives are needed because if you leave one little thing out, you will get some nitpick of "you left this out or that out". I have to cover as many bases as possible. Cannot do all of them, but as many as I can think of.

As far as the plays, the schemes, the names of things ... those are only for those interested in learning about the schemes. It's not for everyone, not should it it.

Not may want to know what the responsibilites of players are in quarters or cover-6 or whatever. Some get downright mad. But that's their problem.



Look, I don't mind being the bad guy. It's okay. I get attacked by people and not whine about it, I just respond in kind.

So, I appreciate your comment. And it comes down to one thing --- and it ticks people off. A smal group of people hate Morris and they talked crap about him for a few years and got to say whatever they wanted and those who defended Morris were outnumbered.

But people would jsut say "3rd and 15 blah, blah, blah" and Rams were good on 3rd and 15. They'd say "two-gap and blah, blah, blah". And now, challenged, they don't like it.

They don't like the messenger because the don't like the message. If the messanger were St. Francis de Sales they'd be offended at the message because it was pro-Morris.

That's how I see it. They are mad and what the newbie voted off the island because he's not nice to the hierarchy. But I do apprecite your words. I can tell they are sincere.

All good my friend. And I’m 110% in Morris’s corner after what he accomplished this year with so many new faces and limitations in talent. The bad tackling and blown coverages that hurt the Rams defense this year were on execution vs scheme.

 

[JimY53]

All good my friend. And I’m 110% in Morris’s corner after what he accomplished this year with so many new faces and limitations in talent. The bad tackling and blown coverages that hurt the Rams defense this year were on execution vs scheme.

And all I cared about was fairness and equity for Morris. That takes nuance. Reasonable people have that, in my view.

But, also agree with your takes for this year. I saw guys get beat deep and an issue of edge guys blowing contain early in season. I think some added talent will serve Shula well ... and could make defense special in 2024

 

[Loyal]

I admire a poster like @Loyal who frequently shows Humility and Self-Deprecating Humor in his posts.

And, should @Loyal ever get anything right, he will be entitled to point it out and compliment himself ... Literally ANYTHING ... Ever.

We all get it wrong, sometimes. Like that one time I thought I made a mistake....

 

[RamDino]

I am not a stats guy, and i don't spend a lot of time analyzing charts and film. I do, however, enjoy making my opinions known to my fellow ram fans. Sometimes they are wrong, and I don't mind when others point out the flaws in my takes. That said, we don't have to make other posters "admit they are wrong" to prove a point. A simple "this is how I see it" or "take a look at these pics and you might change your mind" works much better than dragging out the conversation until it gets personal. Post a reply or two and then give it a rest (or PM the poster.) Personally, I enjoy oldnotdead's posts, even though some of his views are much (much) more different than mine. And I also like to give credit when credit is due. Old picked the Rams to get to the playoffs this year when I did not believe they had a snowballs' chance in hell. He also predicted the super bowl run, which was quite a feat considering all the games they had to win after the horrible November the Rams had. So kudos to all, the more posts the better, let's live and let live, and Go Rams!

 

[JimY53]

That said, we don't have to make other posters "admit they are wrong" to prove a point. A simple "this is how I see it" or "take a look at these pics and you might change your mind" works much better than dragging out the conversation until it gets personal.

That would work to the point when it gets to the coach is stupid, etc. and the reason for the coach's stupidty is x and y and then it can be shown that coach didn't do x and y

It would work like you say if the one saying he did x and y would stop saying it. But it went on long after solid evidence was shown to refute it. And rather than counterevidence of the 0-tech thing ... the original X and Y claim was repeated. Not refuted.

However ... you do make a fair point ... I do think that after the pics, etc were shown the claims got repeated but yes, if someone keeps making the (new example) 3rd and 15 falsehood (that Rams have been bad at it), it could just be let to stand ... so yeah, what you say is true. The old let the lie stand ... and truth will out ... I just didn't see it happening in regards to Morris.

Post a reply or two and then give it a rest (or PM the poster.)

Yes, under normal circumstances on a board. But there are exceptions on hot topics. After all, there is a thread on this very board on Raheem that is 146 pages -- and I THINK, I could be wrong, there are 20 responses per page.

There are a lot of folks not giving it a rest ... and this was long before I showed up ... gott be around 3,000 posts

Personally, I enjoy oldnotdead's posts, even though some of his views are much (much) more different than mine. And I also like to give credit when credit is due. Old picked the Rams to get to the playoffs this year when I did not believe they had a snowballs' chance in hell.

Yes, and he deserves credit for those predictions ... take nothing away from him on that, he did better than I did ... my pick was in the "six or so" range .. I didn't see playoffs at all.

 

[Ramstien]

Some people, you know who you are just having to act like they know more than everyone else it is usually a sign of low self-esteem. Get off this board once in a while and live a little.

 

[RhodyRams]

That said, we don't have to make other posters "admit they are wrong" to prove a point.

my last post on the subject, but when said poster comes here bragging about he was right about this or right about that, but never acknowledges when he is wrong, it has a tendency to grate on ones nerves.


and I am also getting very tired of the "holier than thou" attitudes


now, back to your regularly scheduled program

 

[Londoner]

Getting back on topic, the Rams are 33-1 with UK bookmakers to win next year’s Super Bowl.

I’ve had a small investment.

 

[tempests]

Guys, oldnotdead doesn't want credit for being right. Not really.

He's a contrarian. The more unpopular his views are and the more push back he gets, the more secure he is with them. One of the blessed few that has more insight and knowledge than the masses. That's who he is and what he's comfortable with.

He wasn't the only one who thought the Rams could outperform expectations. Or that the media was getting carried away with their stupid narratives. The rest of us simply don't care about getting credit for guessing correctly. Because it's not an accomplishment. There were a ton of unknowns with the Rams roster (40 rookies). We didn't know more than anybody else. Our pre-season darts just hit a little closer to the mark.