Why would any team trade high draft picks for Jimmy G.

[CanadaRam]

Much of the talk is that a QB needy team should trade for Jimmy G.
I just don’t get it.
the 9ers with a very strong roster traded major draft assets last year to replace him. His 2021 season was similar to the rest of his career. Lots of Ws, mediocre stats, injury prone.
For a team with SB aspirations, why turn to Jimmy G?
There won’t be many teams as stacked as 9ers overall, and he is not good enough there.

With all the criticism Goff has received, and continues to get, I would much rather have Goff as QB1 than Jimmy G.

the narrative is that Lions need to improve and move on from Goff, and that Jimmy G is solution for current QB needy teams. I just don’t get it

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Some pundits expect a fourth round offer with conditions for it to possibly end up a second round pick if Jimmy plays well and is healthy.

He is having surgery again. So it’s an unknown.

With Rodgers off the market there could be a bidding war. That’s where things (GMs) get stupid.

 

[Selassie I]

The answer to that reminds me of the painful memories of the days when we didn't have a QB. I described ourselves as having QB envy. It's a terrible disease that makes watching the game that we love debilitating.

The disease causes you to desperately try anything to cure it. You have to... because until you do, you will continue to have no real chance of being a contending team.

 

[ottoman89]

Because "he's a winner". And honestly, I don't know a single game that HE has won. He's always had an excellent Defense and running game. And half his passes are short that guys like Deebo take for 70 yards. The media have always felt he was a good starter. And some in the NFL.

But lack of talent in this years draft, mixed with lack of FA options or trade options, some team desperate for a "starting" QB will overpay.

 

[dang]

Much of the talk is that a QB needy team should trade for Jimmy G.
I just don’t get it.
the 9ers with a very strong roster traded major draft assets last year to replace him. His 2021 season was similar to the rest of his career. Lots of Ws, mediocre stats, injury prone.
For a team with SB aspirations, why turn to Jimmy G?
There won’t be many teams as stacked as 9ers overall, and he is not good enough there.

With all the criticism Goff has received, and continues to get, I would much rather have Goff as QB1 than Jimmy G.

the narrative is that Lions need to improve and move on from Goff, and that Jimmy G is solution for current QB needy teams. I just don’t get it

Goff>>>Gstring

 

[CanadaRam]

The answer to that reminds me of the painful memories of the days when we didn't have a QB. I described ourselves as having QB envy. It's a terrible disease that makes watching the game that we love debilitating.

The disease causes you to desperately try anything to cure it. You have to... because until you do, you will continue to have no real chance of being a contending team.

I tend to agree.
Desperate teams make poor choices.
Maybe that and reporters more interested in clicks than anything else

 

[den-the-coach]

IDK I would give up a 3rd Round for Jimmy Garoppolo and let's not forget he was 6-0 lifetime against the Rams before the NFC Championship game. Teams like the Panthers, Commodes, Broncos & now Buccaneers would be glad to have him. In fact, as many of you roll your eyes I wanted the Rams to draft Jimmy Garoppolo back in 2014 and if they did it might have saved Jeff Fisher IMHO or maybe it would have killed Garoppolo, however, Fisher was thought he was being so cute moving up ahead of the Titans to take Lamarcus Joyner, so glad Jeff Fisher is in the USFL.

Overall, Garoppolo has a quick release and can get very hot and carry a team, he's not elite, he also can get very cold and make a bad play to hurt his team, but not unlike other quarterback. Again, I would take Garoppolo over Bridgewater, Winston and the rest of the cast of castoffs and I guarantee he can take to deep in the playoffs and even a Super Bowl, but he needs to be surrounded by good players again JMHO.

 

[OldSchool]

There's always somebody desperate at the QB spot that they'll over pay for mediocrity.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I would rate Garoppolo as an above-average to good veteran-QB.

For a number of teams, that would represent an up-grade; and if you can up-grade at the most important position for a second round pick, you have to (at least) consider doing it.

What are the options for a team that wants to up-grade at Quarterback?
If Rodgers and Wilson are unavailable, and there would be a ton of competition for either, then it's down to one of the rookie prospects or a veteran free agent like Trubisky, Winston or Mariota.

 

[den-the-coach]

There's always somebody desperate at the QB spot that they'll over pay for mediocrity.

IMO Garoppolo is better than Mediocre, when you look at mediocre I believe you look at Teddy Bridgewater, Winston, Dalton & Ryan Fitzpatrick for example. I truly believe Garoppolo is far better then that, he has limitations, but he can lead a team to post season, IMO, one of his downfalls is durability, but if I don't have an upper tier option, Garoppolo is far better then all the rest.

 

[den-the-coach]

I would rate Garoppolo as an above-average to good veteran-QB.

This right here, you don't think they want Garoppolo in Pittsburgh, Denver, Carolina, Washington or Tampa? The team that actually acquires him, their fans are going to be fired up IMHO.

 

[OldSchool]

IMO Garoppolo is better than Mediocre, when you look at mediocre I believe you look at Teddy Bridgewater, Winston, Dalton & Ryan Fitzpatrick for example. I truly believe Garoppolo is far better then that, he has limitations, but he can lead a team to post season, IMO, one of his downfalls is durability, but if I don't have an upper tier option, Garoppolo is far better then all the rest.

Only playing one full season since getting to SF makes a good QB mediocre since he's not available and not reliable. Plus not being able to win in the playoffs when it's on him lowers more to me I think then for others. He's talented yes, but when you factor health and playoff big game performance he's just another QB.

 

[den-the-coach]

He's talented yes, but when you factor health and playoff big game performance he's just another QB.

I agree on health absolutely, but his playoff record is actually good and granted it was more the defense & running game, but as the saying goes, you are what your record says you are and Garoppolo's playoff record is actually 4-2 and that's alright, when you're rocking & a rolling on a Livingston Saturday Night.

 

[OldSchool]

I agree on health absolutely, but his playoff record is actually good and granted it was more the defense & running game, but as the saying goes, you are what your record says you are and Garoppolo's playoff record is actually 4-2 and that's alright, when you're rocking & a rolling on a Livingston Saturday Night.

His playoff record is good when his running game and defense could carry him there are a lot of QB's that can do that hell Dilfer won a SB that way. When he's got to win the game with his arm he hasn't been able to, that makes him average even unspectacular.

 

[CanadaRam]

IMO Garoppolo is better than Mediocre, when you look at mediocre I believe you look at Teddy Bridgewater, Winston, Dalton & Ryan Fitzpatrick for example. I truly believe Garoppolo is far better then that, he has limitations, but he can lead a team to post season, IMO, one of his downfalls is durability, but if I don't have an upper tier option, Garoppolo is far better then all the rest.

@den do you rate Garoppolo above Goff?
I don’t see it.
would appreciate your opinion.

 

[Angry Ram]

Goff>>>Gstring

They are the same tier of QB. Can be good but can also fuck you up.

 

[CGI_Ram]

You can win games with Jimmy G, but you can’t depend on a guy like him.

I wouldn’t trade more than a late rounder. And… you still need another QB for when he goes down.

 

[Kupped]

Much of the talk is that a QB needy team should trade for Jimmy G.
I just don’t get it.
the 9ers with a very strong roster traded major draft assets last year to replace him. His 2021 season was similar to the rest of his career. Lots of Ws, mediocre stats, injury prone.
For a team with SB aspirations, why turn to Jimmy G?
There won’t be many teams as stacked as 9ers overall, and he is not good enough there.

With all the criticism Goff has received, and continues to get, I would much rather have Goff as QB1 than Jimmy G.

the narrative is that Lions need to improve and move on from Goff, and that Jimmy G is solution for current QB needy teams. I just don’t get it

Because the QB market is shit this offseason and teams like Washington, Carolina, Denver and Pittsburgh could be desperate.

 

[FrantikRam]

Because "he's a winner". And honestly, I don't know a single game that HE has won. He's always had an excellent Defense and running game. And half his passes are short that guys like Deebo take for 70 yards. The media have always felt he was a good starter. And some in the NFL.

But lack of talent in this years draft, mixed with lack of FA options or trade options, some team desperate for a "starting" QB will overpay.

This a pretty wild statement...

3rd and 16 in a tie game and he leads the Niners to a win.

Down 7 no timeouts needs to go 90 yards in 90 seconds.

Tied game in freezing Lambeau this year and he leads them on a GW drive.

I know it's fun to hate the Niners but Jimmy is every bit as good as Goff, and from my observation tends to play better late in games (although not always).


If you're Denver or Washington, he's probably worth a 2nd rounder

 

[Tano]

This a pretty wild statement...

3rd and 16 in a tie game and he leads the Niners to a win.

Down 7 no timeouts needs to go 90 yards in 90 seconds.

Tied game in freezing Lambeau this year and he leads them on a GW drive.

I know it's fun to hate the Niners but Jimmy is every bit as good as Goff, and from my observation tends to play better late in games (although not always).


If you're Denver or Washington, he's probably worth a 2nd rounder

And when he has a lead, he does nothing at the end of games.

Goff tends to play extremely well with a lead.

Goff's issue is that he takes a half to get going in some of his games.

And yes - that was annoying as heck.

If it wasn't for Reeder being dragged for 5 to 10 yards on 3rd and long quite a few times, the 49ers would have scored less than 10 points in the playoff game.

And no way should Chase have caught that long pass by Crapola in game 18. Scott badly misplayed that play.

I forgive Scott for that one play because he played lights out in the playoffs and Super Bowl.