Why hasn't Jefferson taken over Reynolds?

[Ellard80]

we are not in practice every day.. we have no idea who is more athletic or does better.

Not much to go on from actual game experience - reynolds has been inconistent - but saying jefferson is better is highly unlikley.

Coaches that watch him every day would know better.

 

[CGI_Ram]

In addition to the convo earlier about WR being a difficult position to transition to NFL from college... in the CoVid season rules, even harder. I keep forgetting that.

 

[Classic Rams]

Yeah my first answer to this question was blocking. And a little of the familiarity with the offense too.

Pops may or may not have taught son that part, but if he can learn to be decent that would be acceptable. Would like to hear if Kupp, Woods, or Reynolds learned the finer art of blocking techniques here. I figure Woods maybe knew some from his Buffalo days.

 

[PhillyRam]

Reynolds has been less than impressive.
Van Jefferson is obviously the better athlete.

I don't understand why we still see so much Reynolds over Jefferson.

Reynolds is fine as a #3. The issue with Jefferson is that he is a duplication of what they have in Woods & Kupp.

I really wonder if they expected to resign both Woods & Kupp and if they didn't, do they now wish they had drafted a WR who may have been more of a deep threat?

 

[Merlin]

Reynolds as a WR3 holds our offense back. He is easily covered and doesn't get separation unless the defense makes mistakes. The Rams in spite of all their lip service about Reynolds probably anticipated that to a small extent at the least. And that's why they drafted Jefferson.

On most passing game route combos you see Reynolds covered. But even when he's not Goff tends to read past or outright ignore him. So IMO the two problems with him are that he doesn't separate AND our QB doesn't trust him. Or maybe it's more concise to say Goff generally doesn't expect him to get open and reads him very quickly.

It's the same thing with the TEs. Most snaps they get smothered. We lack passing game talent dudes and we are seeing in real time the impact of that. And the fact that there are other issues now like protections as well as Goff not getting through his reads once he starts getting pressured it's a perfect storm.

Thing is the OL doesn't have a piece on the bench who might give them a boost. Whit is I suppose but that's getting (hopefully) back to who they were pre-injury which is going to be critical for us to do anything in the playoffs. Only chance for a boost really is Jefferson coming fully online, and the RBs getting/staying healthy on top of an improved OL assuming we do get Whit back.

IMO we still have a real shot at things but it's definitely feeling like a longshot. Like everything has to come together perfectly to have that chance. So yeah I have my fingers crossed and hope Jefferson starts juicing this pass game.

 

[dieterbrock]

In addition to the convo earlier about WR being a difficult position to transition to NFL from college... in the CoVid season rules, even harder. I keep forgetting that.

Only problem with that theory is that it hasnt affected players like Mims, Mooney, Claypool, Davis, Shenault, Hamler, Pittman etc who were all drafted in and around the time Jefferson was, and they have some 3x his production.....
I do think McVay is loyal to his guys and has given Reynolds way too much time to prove himself

 

[CGI_Ram]

Only problem with that theory is that it hasnt affected players like Mims, Mooney, Claypool, Davis, Shenault, Hamler, Pittman etc who were all drafted in and around the time Jefferson was, and they have some 3x his production.....

Thats fair. And, good examples.

As you say, maybe some of that is opportunity based, but... Jefferson needs to create his opportunities.

 

[Mojo Ram]

I hope they still plan on adding a deep threat they can put on the field. We put Kupp and Woods on longterm deals. It would be nice to lighten some of their massive load by having more rotation and more than 2.3 WRs that can be thrown to.

Yes.

 

[Mojo Ram]

I feel like Reynolds was better as a #2 or #3 guy when Kupp, Woods or Cooks were out with injury than he is in a more reserve #3/#4 role.

Having said that, he was clearly overachieving when forced into a more prominent role.

 

[Dagonet]

One of the harder positions... It’s easy to find many examples of slow developing WR’s.

DaVante Adams in GB, one that comes to mind (38 catches for 446 yards, 16gm) as rookie. 2nd round pick, similar spot to Jeff.

It’s almost a position you should get an extra year when drafting them. Kind of like QB’s... that first year can be a write off.



This feels sooooo needed.

Agreed. I'll use the GSOT as an example. It took Ike 2 years to develop. He was on ST during them, and was good there. He developed into a great downfield blocker tho, for Faulk and others. He worked hard on his skills. Torry came in and was an instant success pretty much. Maybe cause he had Ike out there with him? Idk. We had 2 of the best wideouts in the game. Not to mention RP and others..

 

[Dagonet]

I feel like Reynolds was better as a #2 or #3 guy when Kupp, Woods or Cooks were out with injury than he is in a more reserve #3/#4 role.

Having said that, he was clearly overachieving when forced into a more prominent role.

Agree with this, but I still think Jefferson can fit into this offense given time.

 

[badnews]

I still think Jefferson can fit into this offense given time.

Agreed.
Happy Holidays Dag

 

[Dagonet]

Agreed.
Happy Holidays Dag

A belated merry Christmas to you and Happy Holidays.. Maybe a belated Merry Winter Solstice? My inner Pagan coming out.. lol Hope all is well with you and yours brother.

 

[badnews]

A belated merry Christmas to you and Happy Holidays.. Maybe a belated Merry Winter Solstice? My inner Pagan coming out.. lol Hope all is well with you and yours brother.

We're grinding through this year, dodging the bullets we can and stitching up the ones we can't..

 

[SteezyEndo]

Reynolds is our best option over Jefferson. Jefferson will soon probably take over but not right now. Reynolds is better.

 

[Dagonet]

We're grinding through this year, dodging the bullets we can and stitching up the ones we can't..

www.daveramsey.com

 

[Flint]

Only problem with that theory is that it hasnt affected players like Mims, Mooney, Claypool, Davis, Shenault, Hamler, Pittman etc who were all drafted in and around the time Jefferson was, and they have some 3x his production.....
I do think McVay is loyal to his guys and has given Reynolds way too much time to prove himself

It’s not really fair to compare guys, some guys produce from the time they step on an nfl field some it takes longer.

 

[UKram]

After last night I’m pretty much done with Jrey he is playing like someone who knows he won’t be here next year

 

[Tano]

That play where he gave up the ball - just dumb

He wasn't even close to being touched and he could have ran another 10 yards easily I think

Will have to look at it again.

 

[Snaz]

Only problem with that theory is that it hasnt affected players like Mims, Mooney, Claypool, Davis, Shenault, Hamler, Pittman etc who were all drafted in and around the time Jefferson was, and they have some 3x his production.....
I do think McVay is loyal to his guys and has given Reynolds way too much time to prove himself

I think we could have drafted Mims right?