Why didn't Cam Newton fight for that fumble?
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Now that I've seen this presser. Cam comes across as a "Pouting Little Baby!"
IF he likes to be know as the Smiling Great QB who gives a lot of Balls to the Kids. And they look-up to him for it, he's their "Hero!
He needs to show the Kids how a "MAN" acts in defeat!! Cam-is -a-Shame! And no Hero!! JMO
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After this particular game? Very hard.
The double standard regarding to NFL players is amazing. Marshawn Lynch acts way more immature BEFORE the game, BEFORE any emotions, and he gets commercials, endorsements, etc and is beloved by his actions. Cam Newton after getting beat up for 3 hours gets upset over a loss and he's vilified. Painted a picture by media vultures.
No one bats an eye when Rob Gronkowski celebrates like a child, or when Packer plays do Lambeau leaps, or gets butthurt that Terrell freakin Owens doesn't get into the HoF. Yeah, he's the face of maturity and class.
Cam Newton is bashed b/c of his actions in a press conference after a physical and emotional loss? Because he flashes himself more than others? C'mon. Every player is gonna react differently. Can't expect them to all be perfect little robots.
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No, it's not an exclusive job. Ever play little league? Your coach didn't teach you to go out and shake hands and say "good game" after a loss? I'm willing to bet every kid in America was taught that by someone other than their parents. And I didn't say it was Cam's job to instill values and morals in kids. I said he appointed himself a role model. And with that comes some responsibility. You have to show what a role model *IS*. That includes the art of humility and losing with grace along with all the hard work and dedication it takes to succeed.
But again, it's not a big deal and I don't hold it against him. He's only 26, so he'll figure it out eventually.
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Lynch is not a whiny ass immature brat he is an introvert and not the league MVP
Newton is and did not act like it.
Getting called out by Dieon Sanders should tell everyone all they need to know. The limelight is bright, it is going to highlight the good and the bad, be ready for it.
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I've always liked Newton and will continue to like him. The big thing in my opinion is how he lives down that fumble hesitation. The press conference and role model stuff is fluff outside of the game, the fumble hesitation is real on the field stuff. Personally i don't over-read into it, I really don't think it meant anything more than just it's something that happened. But I'm guessing it's a meaningful moment to some teammates and some that play the game even if nobody will publicly admit it.
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Its not hard. Its very easy actually.
Lets be clear. Nobody is vilifying Cam and who thinks Lynch's actions are beloved? Nobody is bashing Cam for celebrating. I actually enjoy it, the NFL needs more celebrations IMO. But if you are going to dish it out you have to be able to take it too.
Not entirely sure what you point is here since its a little all over the place but you mention Gronkowski acting like a child. Here is the child at his presser after his loss to Denver: http://www.patriots.com/video/2016/01/24/rob-gronkowski-124-im-proud-team much different than what Cam did. You can act like a child and have fun and still stand up after a loss. Losing a Conference Championship can be just as devastating and consider how close that game was compared to the SB.
You have to remember too, that Cam is the face of the franchise and fair or not is held to a different standard. Part of it is on Cam too. He is the first to the cameras after a win, front and center. You cant have it both ways. If you want the glory you have to face the music too. In Cams defense he has not lost a lot of football games at any level. He has won everyone he has gone, so he probably doesnt know how to lose lol. But its a lot harder to win like that in the NFL.
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Cam is gonna learn from this, he just wasn't ready and Shula did him no favors by ignoring the run game.
That said, him not going for that fumble is going to haunt him. His identity is being more than the usual QB but he really failed that nutcheck IMO.
That said, him not going for that fumble is going to haunt him. His identity is being more than the usual QB but he really failed that nutcheck IMO.
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Watched the two pressers and it's an obvious difference from the body language and demeanor when watching Gronk and Cam. First time I watched both after reading differing opinions in the thread. Two opposite attitudes to doing an unpleasant part of the job. These would make great training aides to new NFL players on how to act and not act in defeat.
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No, what he did was confirm the bad perceptions some have of him. If you're going to wear the #1, then act like the #1. If you're going to smile wide when you win, at least take the heat when you lose. If you're going to do the Superman pose in the end zone, don't pout when somebody yanks the cape off. What I saw in that press conference? A self centered, egotistical, immature, spoiled athlete who can't take the heat in negative situations. I didn't expect him to come in smiling, laughing, taking the attitude "it's all good". I didn't expect the pouty, immature behavior either. There's a word for guys like that. Losers. And that from the MVP of the league? Disgusting.
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Just own it.
At least, I don't think kids will be copying how he acted on the sidelines, and during the press conference. Who would think that was cool?
I think his frustration spilled over, and it affected his play in a negative manner. The dude wears his emotions on his sleeve, and with that, you can see pure joy, but also frustration, and utter disappointment.
As a franchise QB, and a league MVP, I wish he would have represented himself, his team, and the NFL, in a more professional manner. It appears that he has has grown some, from when he came into the league, but there is still some obvious growing to do.
At least, I don't think kids will be copying how he acted on the sidelines, and during the press conference. Who would think that was cool?
I think his frustration spilled over, and it affected his play in a negative manner. The dude wears his emotions on his sleeve, and with that, you can see pure joy, but also frustration, and utter disappointment.
As a franchise QB, and a league MVP, I wish he would have represented himself, his team, and the NFL, in a more professional manner. It appears that he has has grown some, from when he came into the league, but there is still some obvious growing to do.
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Players have been answering the tough questions after brutal Super Bowl losses for 50 years. Many inflated but damaged ego's have sat in front of that mic in front of the press and sucked it up to act as graceful and professional as possible. Cam will look back on his behavior 20 years from now and be embarrassed.
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I agree Mojo. Those questions are tough to take when you are a competitor, but when you take the slings and arrows, the questioner looks like the chump. By walking out Cam took the burden off the lazy reporter.
Cam will mature and learn.
Cam will mature and learn.
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Exclusive job or not, Cam Newton isn't the dad or the coach or the teacher. He's a football player. It's not his job to act above being human so he can be a role model for kids. It's their parents job to instill morals and values in the kids. Not Newton's.
Someone else posted this online and made a great point:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/sh...orms-off-Super-Bowl-field-Is-h?urn=nfl,218314
When it's Peyton Manning, it's competitive fire. When it's Cam Newton, it's because he's immature or some other insult.
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have a look at peyton's press conference after the game. this after he threw the game losing interception. he starts talking around the 1:15 mark.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/20100...ameinfo|contentId:09000d5d81648bd2&tab=videos
that's a pro at work.
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