Who Lost The Game For The Saints?

[EastRam]

How about missing a blatant offsides so the OT trying to recover from the DE being behind him when the ball is snapped is then called for a hold on a 40 yard pass that puts your team at the 1 yard line. So on the next play the QB throws an interception (because they are 3rd and 20) and when the QB goes low to tackle the returner the refs tack on another 15 yards for blocking below the waist, on a tackle. That was in a SB. That is just one worst call I have ever seen. Come on, this is just another really bad call that ruins a teams season. How about calling a touchdown but it was only Vinnie testeverde's helmet that the ref saw cross the goal line. That caused a team to miss the playoffs, cost a coach his job and got video replay back in the NFL. How about ….. well you get my drift.

I'll reply as a famous poster named GRITS would have and prolly has from his great view above.

BAAAAAAAWHAAAAAHAAAA

 

[ramdonnie]

To all the Saints fans and sports fans in general, we already have the technology to call all sports nearly perfectly without the need for human officiating. Every game in every sport could be done by robotic cameras and computers, but obviously, sports fans want to keep the human element of error in sports. If it's too computerized, sports won't be the same.

Statistically speaking, human error theoretically evens out over time, so the use of human officiating long-term, over hundreds of years, should yield very similar win/loss results of every team to a robotic environment.

What do we want as sports fans? Do we want 99.99% perfect calls or are sports more enjoyable when you get a break once in a while and get shafted other times? The presence of human error adds more joy to sports IMO. We experience higher ups and downs. If officiating was robotic and nearly perfect, sports would lose its core - the human element.

That call did not change the game because the Saints got away with so many other calls before it happened. Also, that play might not have even existed at all if the game was robotized because other no-calls would have added more plays to the game, and the time would have ran out before that play ever gave birth.

Saints' fans don't follow the Rams like we do, but it was time for the Rams and for statistics of human error to finally benefit the Rams. First of all, we got screwed in the first game against the Saints this year and probably would have won that game if not for a bad call that cost us a near first and goal. That call changed the season for us because we could have ended up 14-2 as number one seed.

But we really got screwed in the Super Bowl vs the Patriots. The Pats should have never been in that game, but the "tuck rule" got them in (Maybe it was their time to benefit from human error.) Then, they video taped our practice and got away with dozens of no-calls in the game. We lost a Super Bowl because of the element of human error and cheating. If that game was honest, the Rams would have won and the Pat's dynasty might not even exist today. Kurt Warner might have stayed with the Rams and brought more Super Bowls to us. Human error is always present and has its impact. By updating league rules each year, it doesn't change anything long-term. Instead of 100% human officiating, it's become more like 80%/20% robotic, but over time, I don't think it makes much difference because of the way statistics work.

I don't follow the Saints, but I know that in the future, when they are due, they will get the calls they deserve. Right now it's the Rams time. They deserved the call because it was their karma. They also played better than the Saints and deserved the win regardless. That is a fact, just look at the stats. I also think if the game were 100% robotized, the Rams still would have won because the refs missed a lot of calls during the game that favored the Saints, and that last play probably never would have existed at all because the game would have ended already.

For those reasons I believe the Rams won fair and square. If the officiating was 100% accurate by robots, Rams still would have won. Go over the entire game in slow motion and see for yourself.

It's sad that the Rams outplayed the Saints on every aspect of the game and people have to try and damage the integrity of the win, but after all, that is the element of human error.

 

[Ram77]

LesBaker you can’t say that one missed penalty is more detrimental than any other missed call. The Rams should have been up 24-20 with the blown facemask call on Goff the drive before. Also twice early in the game the Saints were inside the Rams 5 yard line and the play clock ticked to 00. It should have been 4th and goal from the 7 instead the Saints snapped it and-got away with it and scored a TD on 4th and goal from the 2. So instead of having a TD there it should have been a FG. So the score should have been 24-16 on that final drive and even if the PI was called and the Saints did score a TD and a 2-pt conversion then this game would have still gone to OT and the Rams still win and are the NFC Champs. See. A missed call is a missed call. No recency or media bias

 

[Mackeyser]

How did you lose a 13-0 lead at home in the NFC championship game, after the 1st quarter, would be a good question to ask the head coach.

I took Asshole Face to do it.

No other home team in Conference final games EVER gave up more than a 7 point lead at home. NONE.

Well, until the Saints.

Payton costs the Saints that game.

 

[Steve808]

It was the biggest blunder I've ever seen.

here are crap tons of non calls, bad calls, and all the rest.

That one was HUGE. The worst I've seen in I dunno how long. And at the worst possible moment too.

The play in question was a bang bang play. The play where the chefs D lineman tapped Brady on the shoulder and got called for roughing the passer was worse.

 

[Dodgersrf]

Saints had 130 yards of offense in the 1st Q and only 160 yards in the next 3 Q combined.
Terrible, conservative play calling. 13-0 lead and Payton choked

I'm going to give some of that credit to Wade.
When I saw Suh line up against Kamara and put Kamaras ass on the ground at the LOS, we knew Wade was done fucking around.

 

[kurtfaulk]

I'm going to give some of that credit to Wade.
When I saw Suh line up against Kamara and put Kamaras ass on the ground at the LOS, we knew Wade was done freaking around.

i fucking loved it when it happened. then wondered why they didn't do that to him all day.

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[LesBaker]

The play in question was a bang bang play. The play where the chefs D lineman tapped Brady on the shoulder and got called for roughing the passer was worse.

That was hardly a bang bang play.

The Rams just benefited from one of the worst calls we've seen in many many years trying to justify it is really strange.

We know what happened we all saw it with our own eyes there's no spin here.

It was a stupid play that could have cost the Rams the game no call got made that benefited the Rams that's that but to try to justify this as some bang bang play is really crazy

 

[I like Rams]

Who cares. On to the superbowl.

 

[Kevin]

That was hardly a bang bang play.

The Rams just benefited from one of the worst calls we've seen in many many years trying to justify it is really strange.

We know what happened we all saw it with our own eyes there's no spin here.

It was a stupid play that could have cost the Rams the game no call got made that benefited the Rams that's that but to try to justify this as some bang bang play is really crazy

From where the official was standing it was a bang-bang play. When it is run in slow motion, it looks like NRC hits the receiver a little early. It also looks like the ball was uncatchable. The officials let both teams play, they called very few penalties compared to regular season games and this play was just one of several non-calls. It happened at the end of the game and people associate it with changing the outcome of the game when any of the non-calls earlier could have done the same.

 

[-X-]

That was hardly a bang bang play.

Yeah it was - in real time. And the vantage point of the line judge had the ball and defender converging on the receiver at essentially the same time (at full speed) in front of him. Was it a penalty? Sure. Was it magnified 100 times in slow motion? Absolutely. But as others have said, they were overlooking penalties the whole game in order to “let them play“. Unless it was totally egregious in their eyes, they weren’t going to call it. So if the ref didn’t think it was egregious, then it wasn’t at the time. We have no control over that. McVay’s job - and Payton’s job - was to keep the team playing at a high level. We did, they didn’t.

/story.

 

[majrleaged]

That was hardly a bang bang play.

The Rams just benefited from one of the worst calls we've seen in many many years trying to justify it is really strange.

We know what happened we all saw it with our own eyes there's no spin here.

It was a stupid play that could have cost the Rams the game no call got made that benefited the Rams that's that but to try to justify this as some bang bang play is really crazy

You are right. When they go all game not calling penalties because they are letting the players decide the game. Then you get this kind of failure. If they just called what they saw instead of trying to determine if it was bad enough to call, they wouldn't have something so bad missed. But nobody wants a flag fest. So this is the way they want it. this is the way they get it.

 

[badnews]

the answer is
"The Rams"

 

[Ramstien]

After all this Crap I shudder to think what the officiating is going to be like in the SB. They will probably call every little touch foul against the Rams and let the Pats get away with holding our pass rushers and receivers. I said it for years, all these NFL officials SUCK!

 

[CGI_Ram]

If I am a Saints fan, I don't fall for Asshole Face's deflection. If he didn't lose his composure, maybe they pull it out.

People talk about how elite QB's know how to "move on from a bad play". Asshole Face proved he couldn't.

 

[BadCompany]

While it's clear that the Saints were badly outplayed and out-coached for most of the game, and that there were numerous calls that should have gone our way and didn't, like it or not the game and our eventual Super Bowl win will be defined by that blown call. Bill Buckner committed 14 errors in 1986... but we only remember one, and say it cost the Red Sox the World Series. This DESPITE the fact that they still had one more game to play and could have won it then. Same with poor Steve Barton and the Cubs. Or, you know, the Raiders. They still could have stopped Brady. Or the Rams, who let Brady drive from his own 17 to their own 30 in a 1:14 with no time-outs.

A dropped ball with seven seconds left in the 1st quarter is one thing. A dropped ball with seven seconds left in the 4th quarter is another thing all together. Same play... but it's not.

It was a terrible call. I wish it hadn't happened. I wish NRC had of turned his head, intercepted the ball, and high stepped into the end-zone for a pick-six. But that's not what happened. Oh well.

We're going to the Super Bowl, and I am thrilled beyond belief. But when we win - and we will win - this will be the narrative from now until the end of time. Better get used to it, because it ain't going away. Again, oh well.