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Agree.
Or course, I just like the site as a neat way to post side by side player measurable comparisons.
Which WR excites you the most for the Rams?
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Or course, I just like the site as a neat way to post side by side player measurable comparisons.
Not challenging/just inquiring. Please elaborate why you are not a fan of Cooper.
I was banging the Conception drum early on, but I’m not drafting him at #13. Unless there’s a trade down involved I don’t see it lining up.
I see Tyson as the best talent and would absolutely draft him at #13 unless there’s a consensus medical that says he’s damaged goods.
Tate is the next guy worthy of pick #13. I prefer Tyson. I don’t see Tate dropping to us. Miami will be all over that. I think Tyson will be there.
Cooper Jr and Lemon look like safe, high floor picks, but not super excited to do that at #13. Wouldn’t hate it.
Im flip flopping alot on Sadiq at #13. Boom or bust. I like Stowers at #61 more than Sadiq at #13.
Then there’s my All you need is Love fantasy that won’t die until he’s picked by either Arizona, Tennessee, NYG, Cleveland, Washington, Cincy, Dallas….[sigh]
If he SOMEHOW drops to #7 ?? Go get him Les.
I see Tyson as the best talent and would absolutely draft him at #13 unless there’s a consensus medical that says he’s damaged goods.
Tate is the next guy worthy of pick #13. I prefer Tyson. I don’t see Tate dropping to us. Miami will be all over that. I think Tyson will be there.
Cooper Jr and Lemon look like safe, high floor picks, but not super excited to do that at #13. Wouldn’t hate it.
Im flip flopping alot on Sadiq at #13. Boom or bust. I like Stowers at #61 more than Sadiq at #13.
Then there’s my All you need is Love fantasy that won’t die until he’s picked by either Arizona, Tennessee, NYG, Cleveland, Washington, Cincy, Dallas….[sigh]
If he SOMEHOW drops to #7 ?? Go get him Les.
I just dont see the allure of Sadiq like I had seen with the likes of Warren and Bowers.
Fine player, but not worth the bonus pick the Rams got rewarded with IMO
Hard to define who it is, but I just expect them to draft someone at 13 who normally wouldnt be available to them in their traditional end of the round position
Fine player, but not worth the bonus pick the Rams got rewarded with IMO
Hard to define who it is, but I just expect them to draft someone at 13 who normally wouldnt be available to them in their traditional end of the round position
Agreed. I only see Sadiq as a potential chip at #13 to trade down (don't think there are many top-fifteen talents in this class, but I could see a team like Carolina show interest in him). I'm wary of his complete lack of production for what he was featured as (to me, he should've been featured a ton with little talented receivers at the time and no real running game), especially with a good quarterback like Moore throwing to him.
He's not a Bowers or a Warren; hell, I don't think he's even a Loveland. He's just a freak athlete playing tight end at the moment, nothing more.
I haven't seen any draftniks putting Concepcion at WR 2. Who have you seen do this? I like him, but I'm not taking him over Tate, Lemon, Tyson, Cooper Jr.
I don't get it. RAS is the end all be all on explosiveness? They may show what a player SHOULD be. But what did that player do with it? Explosiveness can only be measured on the field. I'd go with Tavon all day and every day. I'm not even seeing how you can argue it's close.
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Interesting comparison I've heard is he's Jordan Reed. Not great in zone but can just run the seam and overs, leaks, etc.
There's a better version of Gerald Everett there.
If I'm drafting a tight end #13 overall, he had damned well be better than a better Gerald Everett.
That's mainly why I don't like Sadiq; I think he's got the biggest chance to bust - or, at the very least, disappoint - out of any of the guys we're talking about.
What video are you watching then? I'm asking because I haven't seen any video where Branch looks as explosive as TA or even close really. He seems to have straight line speed but "explosive"? I like Branch. He runs better routes than TA ever did and is fast. I wouldn't mind having him. But it's pretty unlikely given where I think he should be drafted. Someone else will take him way too early IMO.
I see the slot types the same way. And they're a bit different than McVay's typical slot player. Usually he goes with big (6'2"+) body types in what has been a mini-TE type pass weapon role. Both these guys are smaller, but faster. Reason I think they fit is because they're both tough as hell. But again I am a USC fan and Lemon's more Woods than he is JSN. So I agree with your estimation of both those slots. Safe picks to ensure we have a backup for Nacua, but require that slot role to get the most from them.
Stowers we agree has McVay written all over him. He's flexible, can line up all over. Great hands and uses his catch radius over the middle. Gives us that big and tough completion target wherever you want to play him. But he won't make 61. So Rams would need to position where they feel he's a value.
Lastly I don't think this year's group has the typical "buckets" like we see in most years, where there's big dropoff. The dudes listed at 10 vs the dudes listed at 30 or even a bit later feel very similar. So I expect we're gonna see surprises. Draft night there will be a lot of "reaches" proclaimed but it's probably gonna be just teams taking the dudes they like who fit, as everyone will want to move down and many won't be able to.
Really curious how the Rams play this. Maybe they get lucky and get a move down offer. I hope so at least. Otherwise take the MFer you like most, who fits best.
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Personally, no one excites me at 13 in this draft.
I can sorta squint at the tackles and see a great future with them but that's about it.
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You're late to the party on this one I see.
No. RAS isn't the end all on explosiveness. Never said it was.
The initial poster and myself were obviously working with a different definition of explosiveness based upon the examples provided.
When I mentioned explosiveness, I was offering my opinion on how quickly these guys get to top speed from a stopped position based upon what I saw when they were on the field. And I stand by that opinion. This has nothing to do with production that can be skewed based upon a players circumstances (which I later showed).
The RAS site post was just a comparison tool used that listed these guys ten yard split, vertical, and broad jumps which has been used by draftniks (and from what I understand NFL teams) for years in measuring explosion. That's it. I don't give a hoot about the RAS score or anything. It was just used as a convenient tool to show a side by side comparison of those numbers.
I am intrigued by him, but he does have that boom or bust quality to him. Like Pitts or Vernon Davis. Guys that look the part, but ultimately disappoint.
Apparently I wasn’t the only one who took your post in that direction. And if I'm not able to reply right away, the post shouldn’t be rendered moot. You posted the RAS as a stand alone argument in the post to which I replied. Maybe you should have couched it better.
You can dismiss the other side with your circumstances argument but the eye test doesn’t hold water. If you watch tape side by side, TA is clearly more explosive, elusive, etc… ON THE FIELD which is what counts. Other players around them have little effect once these kinds of players get the ball in their hands. We clearly have a different view of what explosive means.
Some great candid talk about Tyson. I know people want to brush off the injuries say it'll be ok but I just can't. Wish the guy had stayed healthy and if he could run right now maybe but man no thank you. They even brought up what a few people around here have said the old "well it'll be different with my team" like our doctors will just snap their fingers and all this injury history will be a thing of the past.
Another thing I've seen a lot say is our 1st round pick has to contribute this year, usually as a counter to the idea of drafting Simpson, but how can you say Tyson will be available for 17 game?