Where we at?

[PhillyRam]

Here's a question you might be able to answer for me....

With zone coverage becoming more and more the trend, do we want to spend hight draft pick capital on a CB, vs taking a very good OT to replace Big Rob and possibly start at LT and move AJ Jackson over to RT?? Things I openly wonder about.
Now don't get me wrong I would be happy w/ a CB in Rd 1, but Snead is so good mining CBs in mid to late picks
Finding starting OTs on day 2/3 is a lower % chance of hitting. I mean AJ Jackson was winning the lotto but that won't happen again imho

What says you???

Good point, but a better question would be do the Rams play zone because they can't play man or is that their desired scheme?

And I would think what would make a D great is the ability to play both at a high level so you could change on the fly or change the game plan/scheme, from week to week depending on the match up. That would make the Rams D a bitch to prepare for.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Where we at?

Where we at?

For us diehard Ram fans in 2025, this is where we at:

 

[PressureD41]

Good point, but a better question would be do the Rams play zone because they can't play man or is that their desired scheme?

And I would think what would make a D great is the ability to play both at a high level so you could change on the fly or change the game plan/scheme, from week to week depending on the match up. That would make the Rams D a bitch to prepare for.

play zone, keep them in front of you and trust the DL will get the the QB in a timely matter, that's my guess.

 

[DzRams]

Here's a question you might be able to answer for me....

With zone coverage becoming more and more the trend, do we want to spend hight draft pick capital on a CB, vs taking a very good OT to replace Big Rob and possibly start at LT and move AJ Jackson over to RT?? Things I openly wonder about.
Now don't get me wrong I would be happy w/ a CB in Rd 1, but Snead is so good mining CBs in mid to late picks
Finding starting OTs on day 2/3 is a lower % chance of hitting. I mean AJ Jackson was winning the lotto but that won't happen again imho

What says you???

This mining CBs in mid to late picks may be the reason why our secondary is typically pretty meh, right?
I do feel there is validity to your position on OT. I can see them doing that very early.

 

[PressureD41]

Personally I just wonder if Big Rob can hold up at this stage of his career. We have nothing behind him and that scares me more than the depth at CB. If Cam Robinson is still available in a day or so when the price drops do we sign him? It will be interesting how they handle this

 

[PhillyRam]

Personally I just wonder if Big Rob can hold up at this stage of his career. We have nothing behind him and that scares me more than the depth at CB. If Cam Robinson is still available in a day or so when the price drops do we sign him? It will be interesting how they handle this

There are some developmental type OT's that could be had in rds 3 & 4. Not sure there is one worth a late 1st. There are even questions about Will Campbell because he has extremely short arms for an OT. Only 31 inches and change. Not a great class at the top.

As many have said a trade back would be perfect and take one of those borderline 1st/2nd rd CBs or if the top ILB is there, jump on him at 26...(Jihad Campbell)

The only other option would be if Dart is there and they like him then maybe they jump on him.... or trade back and draft Shough. That likley is a reach.

I just don't see OT or WR at the top since they extended Atwell and added Adams. TE is a deep group so unless Loveland slides to them, they likley wait on TE.

 

[PressureD41]

There are some developmental type OT's that could be had in rds 3 & 4. Not sure there is one worth a late 1st. There are even questions about Will Campbell because he has extremely short arms for an OT. Only 31 inches and change. Not a great class at the top.

As many have said a trade back would be perfect and take one of those borderline 1st/2nd rd CBs or if the top ILB is there, jump on him at 26...(Jihad Campbell)

The only other option would be if Dart is there and they like him then maybe they jump on him.... or trade back and draft Shough. That likley is a reach.

I just don't see OT or WR at the top since they extended Atwell and added Adams. TE is a deep group so unless Loveland slides to them, they likley wait on TE.

I hear ya, it will be fascinating how they put the final touches on this roster. Evan Ingram still available.

Hey what's the deal w/ Kupp?? Do the rams needs to wait until tomorrow to cut him to gain some much needed cash to make a move or two? If I am correct we might be able to add one or two more players before closing up shop until the draft

 

[Ramhusker]

I hear ya, it will be fascinating how they put the final touches on this roster. Evan Ingram still available.

Hey what's the deal w/ Kupp?? Do the rams needs to wait until tomorrow to cut him to gain some much needed cash to make a move or two? If I am correct we might be able to add one or two more players before closing up shop until the draft

I think the Kupp situation has the Rams on pause until tomorrow.

 

[PhillyRam]

Personally I just wonder if Big Rob can hold up at this stage of his career. We have nothing behind him and that scares me more than the depth at CB. If Cam Robinson is still available in a day or so when the price drops do we sign him? It will be interesting how they handle this

This could be a draft where you address OT in mid rounds with a good developmental guy who did real well at the senior bowl, but is a small school kid.

An example of addressing ILB, CB, TE, and OT... and this site is still short one of our 6ths... so could double up at OT.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Good point, but a better question would be do the Rams play zone because they can't play man or is that their desired scheme?

And I would think what would make a D great is the ability to play both at a high level so you could change on the fly or change the game plan/scheme, from week to week depending on the match up. That would make the Rams D a bitch to prepare for.

We used to play man-match with Staley which is a combo coverage and pretty sure we still do though maybe we switched entirely to zone. Actually, now that we have a big nickel in Lake, I think we play mostly zone.

Basically what it was was that we start in zone then switch to man depending on route and coverage.

We need guys who can play both if we want to do even more with our defense ala the Staley years.

 

[shovelpass]

Good point, but a better question would be do the Rams play zone because they can't play man or is that their desired scheme?

And I would think what would make a D great is the ability to play both at a high level so you could change on the fly or change the game plan/scheme, from week to week depending on the match up. That would make the Rams D a bitch to prepare for.

We used to play man-match with Staley which is a combo coverage and pretty sure we still do though maybe we switched entirely to zone. Actually, now that we have a big nickel in Lake, I think we play mostly zone.

Basically what it was was that we start in zone then switch to man depending on route and coverage.

We need guys who can play both if we want to do even more with our defense ala the Staley years.

All teams play a mixture of man and zone. Zone is the played more league wide. Partly because it's almost impossible to find 2-3 CBs with size and speed. But also, unless you're getting consistent pressure the offense is going to figure out a static scheme.

Cody Alexander tracks all of this stuff. The Browns played man the most this season at 40.6%. The Rams played man 18.8%, 15.7% last season. Though, in the wild-card game they played Cover-1 30% of the time.

 

[ottoman89]

CB1
ILB1
TE
RB1
WR

 

[FrantikRam]

In order of importance for me:

LB - I still maintain, McVay fixes problems that end our season, and this IMO was the biggest reason Barkley ran all over us

T - depth but also for Rob next year

WR - both Adams and Tutu are basically here for a year

CB - I put down on the list because from a bodies perspective, we don't really need one. It would be nice to upgrade the room, but that will depend on the right player being there in the first or third round

TE

RB (doesn't look like we will be keeping Rivers unless I missed something) - but this can be late

The first four would be with our first four picks - TE/RB/WR/LB with our four 6th rounders

 

[muggmeister]

I hear ya, it will be fascinating how they put the final touches on this roster. Evan Ingram still available.

Hey what's the deal w/ Kupp?? Do the rams needs to wait until tomorrow to cut him to gain some much needed cash to make a move or two? If I am correct we might be able to add one or two more players before closing up shop until the draft

I was thinking Engram too. When I heard he visited the Broncos I was hoping he signed there, being one of the teams in front of us maybe eyeing Loveland. If he gets past the Chargers and Broncos I think he may well fall to us. I still think it's time to finally draft a CB1 type talent. Midround picks and cast-off veterans will only lead to a mediocre secondary, most often. We need a young stud on a rookie contract, not a $20M a year veteran.

 

[WestCoastRam]

All teams play a mixture of man and zone. Zone is the played more league wide. Partly because it's almost impossible to find 2-3 CBs with size and speed. But also, unless you're getting consistent pressure the offense is going to figure out a static scheme.

Cody Alexander tracks all of this stuff. The Browns played man the most this season at 40.6%. The Rams played man 18.8%, 15.7% last season. Though, in the wild-card game they played Cover-1 30% of the time.

Man-match is a coverage, it starts as zone then depending on the WR routes, the DBs will play man through the end of the route.

I'm not sure how guys online chart it cause no one seems to record it except I think it might still go down as zone under the overhang concepts like Cover-6. Cody has great explainers on it.

I believe we may still play a bit of it but I think there may have been a change from playing it a lot under Staley and a much more competent secondary to Morris and a pretty meh secondary.

 

[shovelpass]

Man-match is a coverage, it starts as zone then depending on the WR routes, the DBs will play man through the end of the route.

I'm not sure how guys online chart it cause no one seems to record it except I think it might still go down as zone under the overhang concepts like Cover-6. Cody has great explainers on it.

I believe we may still play a bit of it but I think there may have been a change from playing it a lot under Staley and a much more competent secondary to Morris and a pretty meh secondary.

I'm aware of what man-match is. Or match-zone as it has been called in our system.

My guess is it's counted as zone because of how it starts. Probably too much work into determining if it's normal zone shadowing or is the defender matching. Also some teams will call for zone play but have one CB in man, I'm guessing that also gets counted as a zone play.

Everything that I've read from Jourdan seems to suggest that they are. Could be less though.

On that note, with how effective the pass rush is and how suspect (at times) the run game is, are they playing less gap-and-a half and playing single gap?

 

[WestCoastRam]

I'm aware of what man-match is. Or match-zone as it has been called in our system.

My guess is it's counted as zone because of how it starts. Probably too much work into determining if it's normal zone shadowing or is the defender matching. Also some teams will call for zone play but have one CB in man, I'm guessing that also gets counted as a zone play.

Everything that I've read from Jourdan seems to suggest that they are. Could be less though.

On that note, with how effective the pass rush is and how suspect (at times) the run game is, are they playing less gap-and-a half and playing single gap?

Still seems like they're playing gap and a half. You could argue even more now that Donald is gone as he was allowed to free style sometimes and single gap even if everyone else was gap and a halfing.

 

[RamBradford85]

I think if shadeur happens to slide and makes it to 26 he’s a ram … but more likely if Alabama qb there in 3rd round he will be a ram just do t see them not taking a qb

 

[muggmeister]

I think if shadeur happens to slide and makes it to 26 he’s a ram … but more likely if Alabama qb there in 3rd round he will be a ram just do t see them not taking a qb

For the last fucking time, just kidding, no Jalen Milroe. He sucks ass.

 

[Ellard80]

In order of importance for me:

LB - I still maintain, McVay fixes problems that end our season, and this IMO was the biggest reason Barkley ran all over us

T - depth but also for Rob next year

WR - both Adams and Tutu are basically here for a year

CB - I put down on the list because from a bodies perspective, we don't really need one. It would be nice to upgrade the room, but that will depend on the right player being there in the first or third round

TE

RB (doesn't look like we will be keeping Rivers unless I missed something) - but this can be late

The first four would be with our first four picks - TE/RB/WR/LB with our four 6th rounders

no linebacker is stopping Barkley.

If they are strong enough they aren't fast enough - if they have the speed they won't have the strength.

You have to stop Barkley at the 1st level - once he gets to the back 7 it's trouble.