Where do you stand on QB Ty Simpson?

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Where do you think Ty Simpson would be good value in the upcoming draft?


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Here is to hoping the Simpson pick really pays off and I do get the logic behind the pick since moving up for a top QB would cost tons of draft capitol any other year, due to Rams being perennial top team.

But another example of a rookie impacting a team for a Super Bowl run is Cooper Dejean. Cooper DeJean absolutely affected the Eagles’ defense in their Super Bowl year, and his impact was both seen during the season and in the Super Bowl itself.

He became a regular starter around midseason after the eagles struggled in pass defense. The Eagles finished the regular season with the No. 1 overall defense and No. 1 pass defense in the NFL. Dejean didn’t allow a receiving touchdown during the regular season and graded extremely well in coverage.

DeJean recorded a 38‑yard pick‑six off Patrick Mahomes in the second quarter that broke the game open, if you remember watching.

By the way, many Rams fans were pounding the table for Dejean if you recall. We moved up in the draft to pick 39 and drafted Fiske. Many assumed it was for Dejean who was highly touted and projected by some to go top 15. The eagles then traded up to pick 40 after we selected Fiske. The Rest is history.

There’s even behind-the-scenes Eagles footage showing Howie Roseman celebrating when the Rams picked Fiske instead of DeJean, because that cleared the way for Philadelphia to grab him.

Philly picked Jalen Carter when other teams passed on him due to character concerns. Carter ended our season after blowing up Limmer, if you remember.

And now how ironic, we pass on Makai Lemon who was the odds-on favorite Rams pick. The Eagles moved up to draft him after we passed on him. So let's see if history repeats itself again.
Great points, hope you're wrong about Lemon's impact on the Eagles. If Brown is traded hard to believe he won't have a moderate to full impact with their passing game.
 
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Not what I said. An

I think the Qb room is weaker behind Stafford. Tell me I’m wrong.

As far as making a 1st round pick that could help this years team, they didn’t. That is what we are talking about and you know it. Argue that the rams made the team better this year with the 13th pick.
LOL, of course they didnt. Thats inarguable. Thats also fully known and not cared about by the folks who like the Simpson pick.

What does the QB room have to do with the Simpson pick? If Garoppolo didnt retire we were STILL taking Simpson and were moving on from Stetson.
 
LOL, of course they didnt. Thats inarguable. Thats also fully known and not cared about by the folks who like the Simpson pick.

What does the QB room have to do with the Simpson pick? If Garoppolo didnt retire we were STILL taking Simpson and were moving on from Stetson.
Not what I said. An

I think the Qb room is weaker behind Stafford. Tell me I’m wrong.

As far as making a 1st round pick that could help this years team, they didn’t. That is what we are talking about and you know it. Argue that the rams made the team better this year with the 13th pick.

Depends on whether Lemon for example raised Rams' 2026 SuperBowl by some percent, call it n%.
Versus Simpson raising the Rams's odds in 27/28/29/30 by p% each versus the other possibilities (considering the draft costs).
If you're really all about 2026 to the detriment of all future years I have to disagree with you on that.
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Depends on whether Lemon for example raised Rams' 2026 SuperBowl by some percent, call it n%.
Versus Simpson raising the Rams's odds in 27/28/29/30 by p% each versus the other possibilities (considering the draft costs).
If you're really all about 2026 to the detriment of all future years I have to disagree with you on that.
BC
There's no doubt we sacrificed some '26 and maybe some '27 in exchange for 28-38. Dont see a problem with that. Rams came into that draft as the best team going into 2026 with the Kansas City defensive back field additions.
 
Here is to hoping the Simpson pick really pays off and I do get the logic behind the pick since moving up for a top QB would cost tons of draft capitol any other year, due to Rams being perennial top team.

But another example of a rookie impacting a team for a Super Bowl run is Cooper Dejean. Cooper DeJean absolutely affected the Eagles’ defense in their Super Bowl year, and his impact was both seen during the season and in the Super Bowl itself.

He became a regular starter around midseason after the eagles struggled in pass defense. The Eagles finished the regular season with the No. 1 overall defense and No. 1 pass defense in the NFL. Dejean didn’t allow a receiving touchdown during the regular season and graded extremely well in coverage.

DeJean recorded a 38‑yard pick‑six off Patrick Mahomes in the second quarter that broke the game open, if you remember watching.

By the way, many Rams fans were pounding the table for Dejean if you recall. We moved up in the draft to pick 39 and drafted Fiske. Many assumed it was for Dejean who was highly touted and projected by some to go top 15. The eagles then traded up to pick 40 after we selected Fiske. The Rest is history.

There’s even behind-the-scenes Eagles footage showing Howie Roseman celebrating when the Rams picked Fiske instead of DeJean, because that cleared the way for Philadelphia to grab him.

Philly picked Jalen Carter when other teams passed on him due to character concerns. Carter ended our season after blowing up Limmer, if you remember.

And now how ironic, we pass on Makai Lemon who was the odds-on favorite Rams pick. The Eagles moved up to draft him after we passed on him. So let's see if history repeats itself again.
One thing that Dejean and Emmanwori have in common is that neither was a first round pick. We drafted more players this year than just Ty Simpson in the first round and we also used our other first round pick on an immediate impact DB. Studies show you can, in fact, have your cake and eat it too.
 
One thing that Dejean and Emmanwori have in common is that neither was a first round pick. We drafted more players this year than just Ty Simpson in the first round and we also used our other first round pick on an immediate impact DB. Studies show you can, in fact, have your cake and eat it too.
Loved the KC DB pickups.Got proven championship experienced players. Hopefully they stay healthy and Shula knows how to use them. We need to increase our aggressive blitz packages and man press numbers if we are to get the most out of these signings, in my book.

Both CB's upgrade our coverage, tackling and blitzing and disguises.

Hopefully these 13 personnel schemes work because we have invested a ton of draft capital there.
 
el chapo....

i have to admit, i was rowing the same boat.. my initial thought was WTF???

but after my initial meltdown...

im all in...

and not because im a rose colored glasses wearing ram fan ( although i am)...

something tells me this is over our heads and was the best pick the rams could have made....

you keep backpeddaling on your first take, but you and i were lockstep in that zone...

it's not that i know anything about the process... but i think we may have struck gold and everyone else in the NFL missed it...

uhhhh.. i think mcsnead have once again ripped the league a new one on this....

somehow they seem to do this year after year when it comes to the draft.... ansd sean knows QB...

we're gonna have to trust him on this....

go rams

slo
No not backpedaling at all. My first take is what I believe (think the pick wasn't great and Simpson won't amount to much) but then again that doesn't matter because the Rams took who they took. I've just moved on because discussing that leads to nothing at all. Simpson is a Ram and I've said multiple times, hope he proves me wrong and will be rooting for the kid. Of course we have to trust McVay, we kinda have no choice but he isn't perfect either so this will be interesting to watch develop over some time. I'm choosing to focus my energy on rooting the Rams on.
 
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We can agree to disagree. Mainly because I would rather spend my energy rooting for Simpson rather than being right. He's an intriguing prospect that could be successful down the road and the new face of the Rams. And I love his processing, and football junkie mindset along with his running ability. Looking forward to seeing new wrinkles in the next version of the Mcvay system. I think it also gives Mcvay another reason to stick around, and hope he can crack the code for another Lombardi, with a mobile high IQ talent like Simpson.

Regarding Thomas or a WR like him, I think an extension that likely fetches 30M a year over a few years isn't even in the cards. We have too many of our own mouths to feed starting next year and likely early this year, to keep a championship roster in place.. 60M over two years doesn't make sense when you could get a rookie at pick 13 for 6M a year and likely 12M over two years. Just throwing rough numbers out there.

100% a rookie could put a team over the edge. To use the Emmanwori example. if he doesn't make a few plays against us then we likely win that game. Are we better in the secondary now and can Mcvay coach better or Smith not fumble? Of course. But players absolutely affect the outcomes of the games. Otherwise drafts and free agency are irrelevant.

I would not trade Mcvay for any coach but his record is not exactly flawless regarding draft choices. Tutu over Humphrey, Moving back to take Ferguson over a player like Emmanwori certainly changed the dynamic of last years rosters. Recently Snead was told how brillliant he was to take Puka in RD 5. Snead responded by saying they did not honestly know he would be that good or they would have obviously picked Puka earlier. So, The Rams draft strategy and execution isn't exactly bullet proof. It has at times massive holes and question marks and is wrong. I just hope this isn't another example. Either way the McSnead monster will recover because their other coaching/GM qualities are top notch at times. Namely, Mcvay's offensive mind and ability to innovate, in my opinion.
Brian Thomas Jr. salary cap number is a little over $2 million this year and a bit under $3 million next year. I'm guessing his 5th year option will probably run between $20 - $25 million. The extension money comes after that and the Rams could even still give him a deal that's cap friendly initially, trade him (like Cooks), or just let him walk. Either way, they could take HUGE advantage of having a QB on a rookie deal on their salary cap.

Also, I never said players don't affect outcomes of games. But, one could list a play (or decision) or two by just about everyone on the field and claim that it affected the outcome. If this player didn't miss a block. If that player didn't drop a pass (or punt). If the QB didn't miss a throw or an open target. If that DB didn't slip or if this one got a better jam on press man coverage. If the punter made a better punt. If that EDGE would have ran through the OT instead or around him, etc. etc. etc... Some may be more noticeable that others, but the point remains.

And of course no one is infallible when it comes to the player selection process. BTW, regarding the Ferguson over Emmanwori take, how would Emmanwori be in consideration and where was he going to play with Curl, Lake, Kinchens coming off good seasons? He might have just been mostly a special teamer for the team until this year which brings me to my next point. A player's performance in one location doesn't guarantee the same results elsewhere. Emmanwori just happened to be a perfect fit at the perfect time for the Seahawks like Puka was for McVay and the Rams.
 
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Not what I said. An

I think the Qb room is weaker behind Stafford. Tell me I’m wrong.

As far as making a 1st round pick that could help this years team, they didn’t. That is what we are talking about and you know it. Argue that the rams made the team better this year with the 13th pick
I would like to apologize for the tone of this post. Totally uncalled for.
 
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Yeah - sure

I talk a lot of smack & go beyond where most Fans are willing to go with an open mind.

The NUMBER 1 thing Sean Mcvay always says is The NFL (Football) is The Greatest team sport.

The way The NFL RULES have changed since COVID will benefit The BEST COACHED FRANCHISES.

MCSNEAD will PROVE this.This 2023 DRAFT CLASS is a Superbowl Class imo.This is there SENIOR YEAR !!

Have ANYONE EVER thought about that ? This 2026 Class will extend pass that because of Ty Simpson.
I’d say he is like a RED-SHIRT QB.
 
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I would like to apologize for the tone of this post. Totally uncalled for.

Some things are just too far over-the-line ...

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Ty Simpson's Father, MIS-TER Simpson, confirms that had Rams not taken Ty at 13 there were trade-ups very soon after to follow. Also, some talk he was going BEFORE 13.

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Something tells me that people who like the move will believe this, wile those who didnt like the pick wont believe this....