What Happened to Our Oline?

[den-the-coach]

Seemed like we tried to a couple of times, and then whatever looks we were getting, we still snapped the ball too late. I hate to, but will give the Pats credit, all around. It stinks to lose, and they didn't get even close to our best game.

The rationale was they did not go up tempo because Belichick was adjusting his defense perfectly, so the Rams stayed in the huddle to the 15 second mark of the play clock to avoid Belichick's adjustments. Again Belichick was just too damn good.

 

[OldSchool]

New England came at with them with a few wrinkles they hadn't seen and we totally failed to adjust to it allowing them to keep doing it.

 

[DR RAM]

The rationale was they did not go up tempo because Belichick was adjusting his defense perfectly, so the Rams stayed in the huddle to the 15 second mark of the play clock to avoid Belichick's adjustments. Again Belichick was just too damn good.

Their defense was great. No disputing that. Almost every time we had the ball, almost every offensive play, the clock in my head was get rid of it, snap it faster, etc. It just seemed we were a tick off, while I was watching it live.

 

[den-the-coach]

. It just seemed we were a tick off, while I was watching it live.

I agree and I was looking for more screens and some passes to the TE's in the flat, but the passes to Higbee off of play action, were being taken away. Don't be shocked if the Rams look for a pass catching RB in free agency, Gurley is very good, but the Rams were hoping to spell him with a back like Dunbar in 2016, but he was hurt.

Again hopefully, with a healthy Gurley and Cooper Kupp the outcome might have been different, but Austin Blythe really struggled in this game and Goff took some serious hits.

 

[Flint]

The rationale was they did not go up tempo because Belichick was adjusting his defense perfectly, so the Rams stayed in the huddle to the 15 second mark of the play clock to avoid Belichick's adjustments. Again Belichick was just too damn good.

But you don’t get to see what the Pats are doing either, that’s something that I hope they improve on, getting plays in on time.

 

[SteveBrown]

We can blame McVay and Goff all we want about yesterday about not being ready for the big moment, but the Oline had much to do with our loss as anything.

Austin Blythe made me wish for Jamon Brown again. He looked small and overwhelmed...

Belly boy picks apart all the weaknesses that all the other coaches miss.
I was AMAZED when BLythe beat out Jamon....and really,Blythe is a technique and try hard guy. Try hard stops at 300 lbs when someone is running full spped at you. Jamon at 330 stopped guys in their tracks in the bull rush, and had ok feet.

 

[Jacobarch]

Oline didn't play well because we never got away from the Zone run. The pats were shooting those gaps. We didn't adjust plain and simple. It's not really that hard to understand if you know what you're looking at

 

[RamDino]

I'm not gonna sit here and wonder what the Rams could have done differently, but the o-line was not good yesterday.

 

[poLARizing]

They ran a 5-man front to pressure Goff. Read somewhere that they ran a 6-2 with a center LB and played zone coverage. The idea is it takes a little longer for a receiver to get open in zone coverage. by the time a receiver gets open, the 5-man front were stunting and already in Goffs face.

 

[jrry32]

But you don’t get to see what the Pats are doing either, that’s something that I hope they improve on, getting plays in on time.

IMO, a big reason why our OL struggled the way it did is because they were getting fooled just like Goff was. The Patriots were purposefully showing one look before the snap before changing the defense post-snap. Belichick sent in two plays. The first was a dummy look to show before the snap. The second was the real play to run after the snap. They were putting a bunch of bodies around the LOS and rushing 5 with stunts. Our OL seemed to be confused all game, which left free runners going after Goff.

Goff was also being fooled by the looks. Not helping matters was the fact that their coverage was great. They were all over our WRs. It was just a brilliant gameplan that was brilliantly executed. It was a lot like Wade's defensive gameplan. The defenses outplanned and outexecuted the offenses. The difference is that Gronk made the big time catch when it counted. Cooks didn't.

 

[jrry32]

New England came at with them with a few wrinkles they hadn't seen and we totally failed to adjust to it allowing them to keep doing it.

We adjusted somewhat. But I didn't like where we failed to adjust. McVay made an adjustment when he realized they were using dummy looks and the mic to slow our offense down. The problem is that he never adjusted away from his tendencies. That's the one thing he needed to do. Wade understood on defense that you beat Brady by confusing him with looks he's not expecting based on your tendencies and what you're showing pre-snap. McVay just didn't do enough of that.

Personally, in the second half, I would have come out in the shotgun and tried to attack NE like Philly did last year. I think we were getting better run looks from the shotgun. We were able to spread them out and open up the box. Once we hammer them with runs a few times, we force them to bring additional defenders into the box, which opens up the passing game (namely PA passing) and the screen game.

But McVay is the offense genius, and I'm just some guy on my couch. So what do I know?

 

[coconut]

But McVay is the offense genius, and I'm just some guy on my couch. So what do I know?

Well you know what you witnessed.

 

[Jacobarch]

We adjusted somewhat. But I didn't like where we failed to adjust. McVay made an adjustment when he realized they were using dummy looks and the mic to slow our offense down. The problem is that he never adjusted away from his tendencies. That's the one thing he needed to do. Wade understood on defense that you beat Brady by confusing him with looks he's not expecting based on your tendencies and what you're showing pre-snap. McVay just didn't do enough of that.

Personally, in the second half, I would have come out in the shotgun and tried to attack NE like Philly did last year. I think we were getting better run looks from the shotgun. We were able to spread them out and open up the box. Once we hammer them with runs a few times, we force them to bring additional defenders into the box, which opens up the passing game (namely PA passing) and the screen game.

But McVay is the offense genius, and I'm just some guy on my couch. So what do I know?

yeah i'm surprised we didn't see more screen passing to the RB's and more shotgun looks. NE did the exact same thing, and i mean the exact same thing that the Vikes did last year against us. (using the 15 second clock against us) my question is how did Mcvay not prepare for this? You know they're going to try to take that away from us and that's exactly what they did. I'm very surprised McVay didn't come out with some new plays for the SB. It looked like every single pass we drew up was covered by NE, like they knew what the play was going to be. To me that's really good coaching and prep work on their part, and really bad by our offensive coaching staff.
I think this is a big learning lesson for McVay and how you can't strap yourself to one style of play and expect it to always work.

 

[LesBaker]

Line hasn't pass blocked well for weeks. I think they just got tired.

That's just not true.

They road graded the Cowboys dline/Front 7, so...

And they ran it 48 times that game versus 18 this game.

There could be a happy medium right?

We didn't try to establish the run so that doesn't help Goff or the Oline. Just really a failure across the board for the offense.

Winner!

They struggled, but McVay didnt give them any help by abandoning the run game.

Guess how many rushing attempts in the second half with the score either 3-0 or 3-3..........

You may vomit in your mouth a bit!

I was surprised we didn’t go up-tempo to shake things up. I wanted to do this to open the 2nd half.

No huddle. Draw plays out of shotgun. Screens to the HB.

Plenty of shit could have been done differently.

They ran a 5-man front to pressure Goff. Read somewhere that they ran a 6-2 with a center LB and played zone coverage. The idea is it takes a little longer for a receiver to get open in zone coverage. by the time a receiver gets open, the 5-man front were stunting and already in Goffs face.

And yes 6>5 so that will create pressure. On replays it looked like they were not defending the middle past the LOS.

That can be exploited.

 

[Loyal]

That's just not true.



And they ran it 48 times that game versus 18 this game.

There could be a happy medium right?



Winner!



Guess how many rushing attempts in the second half with the score either 3-0 or 3-3..........

You may vomit in your mouth a bit!



No huddle. Draw plays out of shotgun. Screens to the HB.

Plenty of crap could have been done differently.



And yes 6>5 so that will create pressure. On replays it looked like they were not defending the middle past the LOS.

That can be exploited.

Balance is good, but seeing our Oline get bum rushed by a bunch of no-names on the Patriot dline, would it have mattered? Who was Blythe facing, the next Aaron Donald? My God, he looked helpless out there.

 

[LesBaker]

Balance is good, but seeing our Oline get bum rushed by a bunch of no-names on the Patriot dline, would it have mattered? Who was Blythe facing, the next Aaron Donald? My God, he looked helpless out there.

Yes again it was often 6 versus 5.

It's not hard for a team with the Rams weapons to get a team out of that.

They didn't.

 

[Mackeyser]

Tony Romo laid it out perfectly.

For years, they struggled with the ZBS. Belichick saw what the Bears did that we still don't have an answer for.

I dunno how healthy Gurley was for that game, but he surely wasn't healthy for this one. Even on the stretch cut back, he took a three step cut instead of a plant and go which means that his right knee wasn't about to take that cut and he was protecting it.

As for our OL, we clearly didn't game plan to face that same Bears scheme and Belichick employed it and we don't have an answer...yet.

We will and woe unto the NFL once we do.

 

[shaunpinney]

IMO, a big reason why our OL struggled the way it did is because they were getting fooled just like Goff was. The Patriots were purposefully showing one look before the snap before changing the defense post-snap. Belichick sent in two plays. The first was a dummy look to show before the snap. The second was the real play to run after the snap. They were putting a bunch of bodies around the LOS and rushing 5 with stunts. Our OL seemed to be confused all game, which left free runners going after Goff.

Goff was also being fooled by the looks. Not helping matters was the fact that their coverage was great. They were all over our WRs. It was just a brilliant gameplan that was brilliantly executed. It was a lot like Wade's defensive gameplan. The defenses outplanned and outexecuted the offenses. The difference is that Gronk made the big time catch when it counted. Cooks didn't.

Those two catches were the only differences - I thought NE's and our D game was outstanding, outsmarted the O without a doubt. It all came down to those 2 catches.

 

[Adi]

They were beat by one of the best defensive minds of all time.

People always relate the Pat's to Brady and great offense , let's not forget belichick was a tremendous defensive coordinator with parsells .

Bill had 2 weeks to prepare , our coaches could not adjust . That's it guys, it's very simple

 

[RamWoodie]

The thing that I don’t understand is we are a very good screen team but we ran 1 screen to cooks the whole game and IT WORKED. But nothing to our running backs. Nothing to woods. Don’t get it.

DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!