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I was reading some comments on a Facebook football group and a poster said that with the new NFL rules concerning hand offs, the RPO will become a thing of the past.

What changed? It’s the first I heard of it.
 

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Let's hope it's true because I freaking hate rpo plays. So tacky and college like.

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I doubt it's true because too many offense incorporate elements of RPO as the running QB is in vogue. It will devalue their QBs and any QB playing in an RPO collegiate offense. If they want to risk the single most important position on the offense so be it.
 

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Whoa, did not hear about this.

  • To make handing the football forward a penalty like an illegal forward pass, proposed by the Competition Committee
Rule change: This will penalize teams handing off the football forward on a read-option, for example, or any other running play a penalty. Handoffs will have to be made next to or behind the quarterback, not in front of.

BY COMPETITION COMMITTEE

10. By Competition Committee; to change the definition of a launch to leaving one or both feet.

11. By Competition Committee; to make the penalty for tripping a personal foul.

12. By Competition Committee; to make the penalty for illegally handing the ball forward consistent with other illegal acts, such as illegal forward passes.

13. By Competition Committee; to make the penalty for illegal punts, drop kicks, or placekicks consistent with other illegal acts, such as illegal forward passes.

15. By Competition Committee; to prevent the offense from benefitting by an extension of the half as a result of their foul.

17. By Competition Committee; to clarify use of the helmet against an opponent by removing the "butt, ram, spear" language from Article 8 and incorporating those actions into Impermissible Use of the Helmet.


NFL Forward Handoff rule states that the ball can be handed to only an eligible receiver when the carrier is behind the Scrimmage line.

The result of penalty will be 5 yards and replay of downs.

NFL read option 2023 rule will penalize teams handing out a football on a read option. An illegal forward pass will now be a penalty. Previously, NFL read option rule stated quarterbacks can be tackled if they are carrying out a fake. It does not matter if they are not in possession of the ball.
 

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After a quick look around, I'm now not convinced that it's that big of a deal. At least one team in the division uses sideways handoffs (which are presumably legal), while another team in the division formerly used the now-illegal, forward handoffs.


Probably legal?

View: https://imgur.com/Zl4Zr34



Probably illegal?

View: https://imgur.com/6JmUI2f

More:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DyFiCyHbVY


If Trey Lance would have handed the ball off here, I guess it would have been illegal (forward) under the new rule (and he would not have gotten hurt).

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0rMFtAM7Yw
 
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After a quick look around, I'm now not convinced that it's that big of a deal. At least one team in the division uses sideways handoffs (which are presumably legal), while another team in the division formerly used the now-illegal, forward handoffs.


Probably legal?

View: https://imgur.com/Zl4Zr34



Probably illegal?

View: https://imgur.com/6JmUI2f

More:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DyFiCyHbVY


If Trey Lance would have handed the ball off here, I guess it would have been illegal (forward) under the new rule (and he would not have gotten hurt).

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0rMFtAM7Yw

It is a small thing. The handoff should be easier to read defensively with the ball on the side. The QB can’t run in step as easily with the RB either deciding to hand off or not.
 

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Seems pretty tic-tacky and just something else the referees have to manage now. Because they don’t have enough to fuck up.

It’s like they think they need to make changes since they are meeting.

I don’t like it.
 

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Be interesting to see if this'll be one of those rules where the refs judge it to the letter or if it is a bit relaxed. It involves the offense so I'm guessing they'll be pretty relaxed on it. Either way, just another rule for them to make judgement calls on which has worked wonders in the past.
 

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This won't affect our jet sweeps and stuff, will it? Don't we sometimes hand it forward from the shotgun? Big staple for McVay....
 

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Stafford is shrugging his shoulders and giving a smirk because he is not affected by this at all. On the south side of the country, Taysom Hill is shaking his head and wanting to play more tight end than quarterback.
 

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You can still toss it forward or shovel pass it forward... just no more forward handoffs.
 

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Be interesting to see if this'll be one of those rules where the refs judge it to the letter or if it is a bit relaxed. It involves the offense so I'm guessing they'll be pretty relaxed on it. Either way, just another rule for them to make judgement calls on which has worked wonders in the past.
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Seems pretty tic-tacky and just something else the referees have to manage now. Because they don’t have enough to fuck up.

It’s like they think they need to make changes since they are meeting.

I don’t like it.
Just read about the new "Launch" rule...any player that leaves Wait for it....both feet or even one foot to make a tackle will result in a 15 yard penalty......This game may become unwatchable in a few years. How many penalties will be levied against the defensive backs for this one do you think?
 

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I guess the running backs can still "launch themselves" over the goal line?
 

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Just read about the new "Launch" rule...any player that leaves Wait for it....both feet or even one foot to make a tackle will result in a 15 yard penalty......This game may become unwatchable in a few years. How many penalties will be levied against the defensive backs for this one do you think?

I guess the running backs can still "launch themselves" over the goal line?
Whaaaat? Didn't know that was a thing too. So yeah, piggy backing off what RamDino said what does a defender do if a RB is jumping over the olineman at the goal line? Can defenders still jump to meet them in air to stop them? Defense just gets screwed further and further every offseason.
 

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I'm a little confused here. If the ball leaves the quarterback's hand into the hands of another player its a legal forward pass. Even if its only in the air for a couple feet. But if he hands off with the guy in front of him they want to compare it to an illegal forward pass?
 

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After a quick look around, I'm now not convinced that it's that big of a deal. At least one team in the division uses sideways handoffs (which are presumably legal), while another team in the division formerly used the now-illegal, forward handoffs.


Probably legal?

View: https://imgur.com/Zl4Zr34



Probably illegal?

View: https://imgur.com/6JmUI2f

More:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DyFiCyHbVY


If Trey Lance would have handed the ball off here, I guess it would have been illegal (forward) under the new rule (and he would not have gotten hurt).

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0rMFtAM7Yw

In the read option when QB holds the ball long enough to decide to hand it off or run, the runningback ends up being slightly in front of him.

It may make execution of the read option a bit more difficult and may take time for QBs/RBs who use it to get the hang of it.
 

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What I don’t understand, is if the QB wants to hand the ball to a runningback who is slightly ahead of him, but keeps it, is that a penalty, if he was in the process of handing the ball, and the RB touches it, but the QB keeps it.

The rule stating a QB can be hit even if he doesn’t have the ball seems to go against the trend of protecting Brady for the last 20 years