What Assistant Coaches Do You Want? Who do you think they will hire? Who have they hired?

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I think the board has been pretty accurate re: Boom. Not too much hating on the guy. He struggled vs the good edges, particularly the ones with power. Is he going to be able to overcome that. He will need to overcome that in order to be a starting LT for a team of this level. So the jury is still out on him at this point and he also has to show he can stay off the trainer's table which makes it even more in question.

Jackson looks like a better LT to me. He withstands power better than Boom. Still need to see him vs some top speed types but bottom line is Boom may not be the best LT on our roster.

This is why I'll be a lot happier if a LT they like is on the board in this draft when they're on the clock. It is a longshot but if you add a young developing type behind Boom and Jackson suddenly we look reasonably good there.
Snead will be standing in the back of a long line on the 2nd & 3rd days of the draft trying to find that LT Gold Nugget.

Snead was unbelievably lucky when Gold Nugget Alaric Jackson fell into his lap from the sky.


2023 Rams OT's Cap Hits

JN- $15.5 mil.
RH- $8.7 mil.
AJ- $946 K
ZT- $870 K
MP- $870 K
AA- $870 K

Note:
Alaric Jackson enters Free Agency next year in March 2024.
Noteboom's last season under contract is 2024.
 

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I'm not sure as it seemed that before the injury, Noteboom was fine against a nobody, but struggled against the somebodies. Also, his lack a durability is a major concern and it seemed every time he filled in for Whitworth, he was injured the very next week and now the Rams are asking Noteboom to play a whole season, which he's never done if starting.

It's obvious the Rams first pick needs to be edge, but in the 3rd round I would go get the best LT and let him compete too, although it's nice that Jackson could hold that position down too if called upon.
Yeah, that's the statement I've heard repeated often.

But I consider Nick Bosa, Demarcus Lawrence, Dante Fowler and Micah Parsons "somebody's". He did pretty well vs them though . And even if they got pressure on the QB when they were Noteboom's responsibility a couple of times, don't they do that to good LTs every once in a while? Or do they just make their reps from playing scrubs? Bosa lined up vs Noteboom 36 times in week 4. The result? 0 tackles, 4 pressures, 2 of which were completions and 1 sack****. SF ran a stunt with 3 guys on the Rams left side. Bosa went behind the other 2, Noteboom took the LB, Evans took the DT and Shelton missed Bosa. But it was Noteboom's guy so I guess PFF gave him the sack? But Noteboom stoned Bosa all day long. Dallas tried Parsons (4 times), Fowler (29 times), Lawrence (6 times), Armstrong, Watson and Williams the rest of the time. If you offered any of them 5 mil to tell you whether Stafford wore cologne or not, they wouldn't be a dollar richer.

By my count, after a horrendous 1st week by the entire OL and offense, Noteboom played 4 consecutive SOLID games at LT before being injured early in week 6. Durability is the only concern and that's a big one. But the statements, "he can't handle pass rushers unless they are 'nobodies'" or "it seemed like 'every time' he filled in for Whitworth, he was injured the very next week" are not accurate. He played 7 straight games at LT for Whitworth in 2020, 100% of the snaps in each. Injury is part luck. And so far, Noteboom has had bad luck. If he loses his job, it won't be because he can't handle the talented pass rushers. It'll be because he couldn't stay healthy something Saffold couldn't do his first 6 seasons. Then he became a pro bowl lineman.

Being a Ram fan, I am hoping Noteboom recovers and stays healthy in 2023 for a number of reasons. He's a talented LT, he's real good in pass pro and he's good in the run game, getting downfield and hitting somebody. Plus we're on the hook for considerable money, which.....IF.....he can stay healthy, he's more than worth.
 
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Even if Noteboom was great when he played his injury history is just too much to be counted on.

He has a major injury this time that will keep him from participating in OTAs and camp.

He probably won’t be ready to play until November and at what level would that be after such a long rehab.

I don’t see how they could possibly count on him at all in 2023.
 

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Even if Noteboom was great when he played his injury history is just too much to be counted on.

He has a major injury this time that will keep him from participating in OTAs and camp.

He probably won’t be ready to play until November and at what level would that be after such a long rehab.

I don’t see how they could possibly count on him at all in 2023.
Really? Where'd you come up with that November time line? Akers came back in 5 months but he's a smaller guy, so we can't use him. LT Eric Fisher came back in 8 months (Jan. 24, 2021 / Sept. 19th, 2021). And Brandon Graham blew his out in week 2 last year, was in camp and started from day 1 this year. If you're saying we can't count on him because of different injuries every year, that's a better argument.

My argument was talent and the misconceptions about his talent.
 

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Really? Where'd you come up with that November time line? Akers came back in 5 months but he's a smaller guy, so we can't use him. LT Eric Fisher came back in 8 months (Jan. 24, 2021 / Sept. 19th, 2021). And Brandon Graham blew his out in week 2 last year, was in camp and started from day 1 this year. If you're saying we can't count on him because of different injuries every year, that's a better argument.

My argument was talent and the misconceptions about his talent.
Picking the best/quickest turn around times and expecting Noteboom to do the same isn’t realistic. Even Akers was back to himself until later this season. That injury is historically a year to recover and maybe never be the same player.

Adding that on top of his injury history and he is not a piece to rely on.
 

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We'll see what happens. I don't know everybody who has had an achilles injury the last few years, so I just listed the ones I knew. I didn't list "the fastest". You got any examples of guys who took longer? Tell me. I'm sure there are some.
 

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We'll see what happens. I don't know everybody who has had an achilles injury the last few years, so I just listed the ones I knew. I didn't list "the fastest". You got any examples of guys who took longer? Tell me. I'm sure there are some.
Having to anchor against the rush I don’t see how a tackle can be expected to have a full recovery, maybe ever.

I know I read there have been advances in the surgery so maybe he will be back in time to get hurt again next season.


 

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Having to anchor against the rush I don’t see how a tackle can be expected to have a full recovery, maybe ever.

I know I read there have been advances in the surgery so maybe he will be back in time to get hurt again next season.


My understanding is OLs recover better from Achilles injuries than HBs. But the good news is that Alaric Jackson can play LT if Noteboom has issues.
 

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The OL did look like dog shit early in the season. The injuries sank the season for sure but prior to that these guys were not a good line. Far from it. Funny thing is when I considered that a few months back in kicking around the idea of the OL coach getting canned it seemed to me that not playing the starters in preseason, along with the line retooling, was likely part of the problem. So I wasn't comfortable saying he deserved to be fired.

But the guy might be a whiny bitch behind the scenes. Or irritating enough to rub the boss the wrong way.

I have to say the OL improvement we saw in the Super Bowl season was the best I've seen in many years. The technique improvement in picking up blitzes and stunts was profound. So Carberry will probably have plenty of good choices in his next job.

All that aside I'm not gonna feel sorry for him. I never got the feeling Carberry is some sort of savant with the line. So onwards and upwards and let's hope McVay kills this hire for his replacement because improvement on that line is sorely needed.
Agreed. The Bills game didn't bother me because we were breaking in a new OL against an elite DL without any preseason experience. The OL actually seemed to stabilize against Atlanta and Arizona. It played well in both games despite us losing Brian Allen. The wheels came off against SF and Dallas, but at that point, we had already lost Allen, Edwards, Bruss, Anchrum, and then lost Shelton early in the SF game.