Week 11 Predict The Score- Rams @ Vikings

[KDS73]

Vikes 24
Rams 23

 

[gabriel18]

8-2 because 7-3 is unacceptable. So far so good

 

[12intheBox]

Rams 24 - Vikings 6

I think the D wins this one.

 

[Karate61]

No ones got it right yet. Here's how it will go down:

Rams 27
Vikings 20

Suckers!

 

[A55VA6]

Rams 23
Vikings 20

 

[RedRam]

20-17 Rams

 

[wolfdogg]

I'm tired of hearing the false assessment that minnis defense is the better defense. Ill take our front 7 over theirs any day and twice tomorrow. Both Tree and Barron have better numbers and higher rankings then Barr and I don't think I have to go into a defensive line comparison. And frankly I'd rather have our secondary. The rams defense has also given up less points and is clicking more than a naked Kardashian photo link. Plus, they'll be without their starting SS and one of their tackles.

The offense comparison is about the same. Ill take Goff over case, our oline and reciecers, and Gurley Men in Tights for 1000, Alex.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I understand how Vikings fans feel, they have a good team, a (first round exiting) playoff team, but when I read some of their comments, its like, ok, you're outta your dann mind, you"re outta your dann mind, and you done lost your dann mind. The rams are walking outta purple heaven 8 and 2 and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Rams 27
Vikings 17

And one pick 6

 

[wolfdogg]

24
16

You guys figure it out

Easy.....home team is always the second score

 

[Riverumbbq]

Both Tree and Barron have better numbers and higher rankings then Barr.

How did you reach this conclusion ?
While far from perfect, PFF still has Barr ranked #9 overall for NFL LB'ers. Barron is #14 and Ogletree at #79. The separation is especially great with rush defense.

 

[wolfdogg]

How did you reach this conclusion ?
While far from perfect, PFF has Barr ranked #9 overall for NFL LB'ers. Barron is #14 and Ogletree at #79. The separation is especially great with rush defense.

Oh, you thought I meant pff rankings. No no no. Actually I was talking about my personal rankings and the rankings of any reasonable person. I did read a write up on Barron recently though where I thought he was rated much higher than 14. I mean he has like 67 tackles to barrs 49 and ill take his 3 picks over barrs single sack. Tree also has a sack but about 10 more tackles and was robbed of a pick 6. And in conclusion, was it over when the Germans bombed pearl harbor!

 

[wolfdogg]

How did you reach this conclusion ?
While far from perfect, PFF still has Barr ranked #9 overall for NFL LB'ers. Barron is #14 and Ogletree at #79. The separation is especially great with rush defense.

One thing on ogletree, is pff has him rated the 5th best in pass rush productivity. You know who's not on the top 10 list? Barron, which is a little surprising. But you know who else is not on the list. Mr. Barr.

 

[wolfdogg]

Also, notice how no one ever mentions the Vikings running game? These guys will be one dimensional before the half and with Donald over the rookie tackle, case will be running for his life in the 4th quarter. I mean come on, no running game to speak of and you have a rookie disaster waiting to happen, compliments of Donald?
This will easily be cases worst game of the year

 

[Riverumbbq]

Oh, you thought I meant pff rankings. No no no. Actually I was talking about my personal rankings and the rankings of any reasonable person. I did read a write up on Barron recently though where I thought he was rated much higher than 14. I mean he has like 67 tackles to barrs 49 and ill take his 3 picks over barrs single sack. Tree also has a sack but about 10 more tackles and was robbed of a pick 6. And in conclusion, was it over when the Germans bombed pearl harbor!

Personal rankings ... hmmm OK.
While I can appreciate the kool-aid drinking, i'd honestly prefer folks not be deceptive about presenting what may be false notions as facts, including about the opposition.
Even your description about the D-Line requires a second take. Both Hunter & Griffen are highly ranked with Griffin coming in at #11 and Hunter at #18. Comparing this to Donald at #1 and Brockers at #17 still should allow us to come away understanding this Minnesota D-Line won't be pushovers. It's a well matched game and hopefully it's a good one with us finishing in the lead, ... if we play mistake free football we can take this, but i'm not expecting a blowout this time around. jmo.

 

[Riverumbbq]

One thing on ogletree, is pff has him rated the 5th best in pass rush productivity. You know who's not on the top 10 list? Barron, which is a little surprising. But you know who else is not on the list. Mr. Barr.

Ogletree's PFF score in pass rushing is 78.0, Barron's is 53.5. Barr's = 77.3, not significantly lower than 'Tree'.

When it comes to overall snaps, Barr is closer to Ogletree as a pass rusher; Barr - 541 total, 58 pass rush with Ogletree 564 total snaps with 54 pass rushing. Out of 554 total snaps for Barron, only 22 for pass rushing.

Coverage scores : Barr = 81.8, Barron = 85.8, Ogletree = 33.9

 

[wolfdogg]

Personal rankings ... hmmm OK.
While I can appreciate the kool-aid drinking, i'd honestly prefer folks not be deceptive about presenting what may be false notions as facts, including about the opposition.
Even your description about the D-Line requires a second take. Both Hunter & Griffen are highly ranked with Griffin coming in at #11 and Hunter at #18. Comparing this to Donald at #1 and Brockers at #17 still should allow us to come away understanding this Minnesota D-Line won't be pushovers. It's a well matched game and hopefully it's a good one with us finishing in the lead, ... if we play mistake free football we can take this, but i'm not expecting a blowout this time around. jmo.

While I appreciate your preference for folks not being deceptive about yada yada yada, I did not say their line was a pushover. I said I would take ours over theirs. Hell, I'd take Donald over both
Griffin and hunter, combined.

I think the Vikings won't be able to run it and when case goes to his sweet spot of 0-9 yards, Barron will be waiting. Here's a little something from pff on that

– When passing short (0-9 yards), Keenum has earned a 16th-ranked passer rating of 92.3, throwing for four touchdowns and two interceptions. Keenum has been at his best on play action passes, as he has earned the third-highest completion percentage (72.6) and fifth-highest passer rating (126.1) on such dropbacks this season. Keenum, however, will want to avoid throwing Mark Barron, as the converted safety has the sixth-best coverage grade by a linebacker this season (85.8). Quarterbacks are only achieving a passer rating of 69.2 when targeting Barron, the fourth lowest among linebackers.

 

[wolfdogg]

Obviously

Personal rankings ... hmmm OK.
While I can appreciate the kool-aid drinking, i'd honestly prefer folks not be deceptive about presenting what may be false notions as facts, including about the opposition.
Even your description about the D-Line requires a second take. Both Hunter & Griffen are highly ranked with Griffin coming in at #11 and Hunter at #18. Comparing this to Donald at #1 and Brockers at #17 still should allow us to come away understanding this Minnesota D-Line won't be pushovers. It's a well matched game and hopefully it's a good one with us finishing in the lead, ... if we play mistake free football we can take this, but i'm not expecting a blowout this time around. jmo.

Obviously, well maybe not obviously, my personal rankings comment was a joke. I have read many articles on linebackers lately and they have had our guys ahead of Barr in various aspects in addition to the ones I have mentioned. Combining these important performance aspects with the better stats, I came to the incorrect conclusion that they were higher rated, although I still don't agree with Barr being ranked higher than barron, but it was never my intention to be deceptive.

 

[RhodyRams]

Vikes 24
Rams 23

Winner winner

Will set the collection bet up this afternoon