Watching the playoffs. Thinking about something.

[jjab360]

I would just like to think that you could spend your first rounder on an elite player like an Aaron Donald rather than take a chance on a Jamarcus Russell or a Matt Leinart. Will there really be a QB worth taking in the first round at our pick?

Four of them actually. And if we don't get one, I'm done with Fisher.

 

[Mackeyser]

Well, we don't know because we don't know if the underclassmen are going to declare. It's entirely possible that the class goes from promising to weak as hell in a minute if the top underclassmen head back to campus.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Maybe the Rams could get Sam Bradford he was taken #1 overall orginally

I wonder what Rams fans would be thinking of him, if he was never a Ram. Perspective gives are often different fromafar

I notice
1. The length of time the QB's have to throw
2. The accuracy of their throws.
3. How wide open receivers get.
4. The imaginative play calling.
5. How many times the QBs hit the receivers in the slot for quick strikes.
These are all things the Rams don't do.

Or just things that a Fisher offense doesn't know how to do?

I'm going to disagree with this. I think in another situation, it's likely that Bradford becomes a successful QB. Problem is that the 2009 Rams were one of the least talented teams I've ever seen. Bradford got drafted onto a flat-out bad team with a bad head coach. Keep in mind that the Steelers offered us Roethlisberger for Bradford. That's how highly they thought of him. The Redskins and Browns (Shanahan and Holmgren) both desperately wanted Bradford.

I think we ruined the guy. His lack of durability definitely didn't help but I think if we had swapped him for Roethlisberger, he'd have been a wild success in Pittsburgh. Unfortunately for Big Ben, that would have meant playing for our terrible team.

The sad truth is that the best thing the Rams could have done that year was trade down for a lot of picks and try to build a NFL roster before going after our QB. But that's pure hindsight. You just can't pass on a potential franchise QB when you need one. We just surrounded him with instability and a bad supporting cast.

I know some will disagree. Some will argue that he'd never have been successful. And they're certainly entitled to that opinion but I do think a QB can be ruined by the circumstances he walks into. IMO, Bradford and Tim Couch were.

And this may demonstrate the fluidity of draft strategies. When rebuilding a roster drafting for need is a necessity until certain areas are filled. When the roster is in pretty good shape then BPA is the best option. In other words the Rams decided to take a QB first overall. They should have prioritized offensive line and WR in the same draft and following drafts until they knew they could protect Sam and give him weapons, thus doing everything in their power to secure his development.

Most coaches fix the defense first on a bad roster. I always say you have to take the QB when you can. If Snead and Fisher thought that way Bortles would be the QB. And the rest of the offense would stink, there wouldn't be a good OC or QB coach and maybe they ruin Bortles too.

With the promise of a young developing OLine, this seems like a good time to draft a QB. Too bad their still missing key pieces, like OC, and pass catchers.

 

[jrry32]

Well, we don't know because we don't know if the underclassmen are going to declare. It's entirely possible that the class goes from promising to weak as hell in a minute if the top underclassmen head back to campus.

We do know because they already declared.

 

[jjab360]

Well, we don't know because we don't know if the underclassmen are going to declare. It's entirely possible that the class goes from promising to weak as hell in a minute if the top underclassmen head back to campus.

Goff and Lynch already declared, those are the only underclassmen I care about

 

[Mackeyser]

Man, my apologies. I didn't realize how out of the loop I've been...

I still don't think we draft a QB at 15. We either trade up or get a veteran QB.

 

[A55VA6]

I'm to the point to where drafting a QB is a MUST in round 1. I don't care if you have to get rid of half our draft and trade to #1 - Get the guy you want Fisher/Snead. That one guy could turn this franchise around, you never know. I think most of us here are ok with that risk..

 

[Mojo Ram]

I'm going to disagree with this.

If i had a nickel for every time....

:rolllaugh:

 

[PartyKane]

Goff vs Lynch? Don't know much of either.

 

[blackbart]

I'm going to disagree with this. I think in another situation, it's likely that Bradford becomes a successful QB. Problem is that the 2009 Rams were one of the least talented teams I've ever seen. Bradford got drafted onto a flat-out bad team with a bad head coach. Keep in mind that the Steelers offered us Roethlisberger for Bradford. That's how highly they thought of him. The Redskins and Browns (Shanahan and Holmgren) both desperately wanted Bradford.

I think we ruined the guy. His lack of durability definitely didn't help but I think if we had swapped him for Roethlisberger, he'd have been a wild success in Pittsburgh. Unfortunately for Big Ben, that would have meant playing for our terrible team.

The sad truth is that the best thing the Rams could have done that year was trade down for a lot of picks and try to build a NFL roster before going after our QB. But that's pure hindsight. You just can't pass on a potential franchise QB when you need one. We just surrounded him with instability and a bad supporting cast.

I know some will disagree. Some will argue that he'd never have been successful. And they're certainly entitled to that opinion but I do think a QB can be ruined by the circumstances he walks into. IMO, Bradford and Tim Couch were.

No doubt Bradford was a prime talent coming out and for a more stable team with a decent oline and staff and he would have been on a much different trajectory. Even Fishers and Snead this staff did little to help him I thought since Bradford was the reason Fisher took the Rams job he would have built the oline first not last.

And I was only half way joking about bringing Sam back. With this new line and running game he should at least get a look this offseason, I just think there is too much baggage for them to bring him back.

 

[lockdnram21]

Yes please. Next season I hope to see him play quite a bit. He has the height and he had some good looks early on. If OSU had a better program with more talent, I have no doubt he would have been a much more prominent figure in the draft, and he still has the PAC 12 record for passing yards. He may be a future star for us.

I'm also not terribly excited about the QBs coming into this next draft. Not a good year for them, IMO. I think Keenum or Mannion could be a good bet, with a great WR and TE, and there are some greats coming up this time.

He was doing pretty good when he had Wheaton and Cooks and line. His last year he had a poor line and poor receivers. Draft Treadwell, Thomas or Doctson. Then sign Benjamin or Marvin Jones. Then sign Alex Mack.

 

[Loyal]

There are 1st round QB's, and then there are 1st round QB's..Meaning, picking a QB in the top 2 or 3 spots is a premium pick. Getting a QB at #15 means that the most needy teams in the NFL that picked before you, who also know they (probably) need a franchise QB to win in this league..are passing on the guy. What's wrong with him?

So I would say no to a falling QB. It's time to develop Mannion, get another veteran to compete with Keenum.

 

[RAGRam]

Offences in the playoffs (red=out, black=playing today, green=won last night)

1st
2nd
3rd
4th
4th
7th
9th
10th
15th
16th
19th
21st

It's possible that by the end of today the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th scoring offences are the only teams left in the playoffs, if the top scoring offence isn't then the 4th will be.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Offences in the playoffs (red=out, black=playing today, green=won last night)

1st
2nd
3rd
4th
4th
7th
9th
10th
15th
16th
19th
21st

It's possible that by the end of today the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th scoring offences are the only teams left in the playoffs, if the top scoring offence isn't then the 4th will be.

That is interesting and it also follows suit that those offenses have some of the best QBs in football. The Rams have built up a very good defense. The reality of that is that there are a lot of teams with very good defenses. You also have to have a good offense to put you over the top.

 

[kurtfaulk]

There are 1st round QB's, and then there are 1st round QB's..Meaning, picking a QB in the top 2 or 3 spots is a premium pick. Getting a QB at #15 means that the most needy teams in the NFL that picked before you, who also know they (probably) need a franchise QB to win in this league..are passing on the guy. What's wrong with him?

So I would say no to a falling QB. It's time to develop Mannion, get another veteran to compete with Keenum.

There was no qb that fell like arod. Sometimes teams with the premium picks aren't that smart. That's why they're drafting so high.

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[CGI_Ram]

Offences in the playoffs (red=out, black=playing today, green=won last night)

1st
2nd
3rd
4th
4th
7th
9th
10th
15th
16th
19th
21st

It's possible that by the end of today the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th scoring offences are the only teams left in the playoffs, if the top scoring offence isn't then the 4th will be.

:shocked:

I support Fisher, as a leader... But where I have concern is the fact the league has geared itself toward the passing game.

Defense wins championships, but not without offense.

After 4yrs being a bottom dweller on offense, we need an outside influence in a big way.

Would be interesting to see the defense rankings along side those offense rankings.

 

[RAGRam]

Would be interesting to see the defense rankings along side those offense rankings.

1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
7th
10th
11th
12th
17th

So best you could end up with is 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th. I think the moral of the story is you need to be very good on both sides of the ball, the 2 teams already through are top 10 in both (2nd and 3rd in points differential), and the Seahawks @ Panthers match up features teams who are top 10 in both (1st vs 4th in points differential).

 

[DaveFan'51]

Going into today, 6 out of 8 QBs in the playoffs were drafted in the first round. 3 were first overall picks. Peyton Manning, Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer, Alex Smith and Ben Roethlisberger. Maybe it's time to draft a guy in the 1st?

Side note. Watching Rodgers, man. I wish we had a guy even half as good as him. I don't know if that team wins a game without him at the helm. I want a QB. Please Jeff Fisher, you're our only hope.

As a side note. I think that the Packers took a beating from the Ref's none calls yesterday!!

 

[Loyal]

There was no qb that fell like arod. Sometimes teams with the premium picks aren't that smart. That's why they're drafting so high.

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I would say that NFL scouts that work for those teams are pretty smart..I would say that the successful teams that are willing to trade up to get said QB, would que in the most dense NFL executives., I don't have time to look at the recent drafts, but I would say the QB's picked in the Top 5 picks, are far more successful than those taken at #15 and lower, by and large.