Von Miller placement prediction

[Merlin]

Either way Floyd & Von can play both sides.

They certainly can and they will at times. But if they don't have Von on the blindside as a base look they're doing it wrong IMO. It's not about what guys want sometimes, but moreso where they help the team the most. This defense has not had a plus threat on that blindside for some time now and Von providing that is going to change shit for the better.

 

[oldnotdead]

Pretty much that.... Also, I wonder if they will put VM, AD, LF AND Lewis on the field in some packages...

Floyd is too light to play inside. If Morris goes to a double 3T set they could use Lewis at the second 3T but he may not stand up to the pounding. Why people keep discounting Gaine's play is a bit of a head-scratcher. These same people hold SJD in high regard yet Gaines continually outplays him on fewer snaps. Gaines gets better penetration and knows how to shed a block. SJD to this day struggles in both aspects of his game.

IMO Floyd and Miller are pretty much interchangeable. I think Morris will in the beginning play Miller as RDE to get a feel for his compatibility. But I see him rotating sides with Floyd to evaluate matchups in any given game. Lewis goes back to his rotational role filling in on both edges. Okoronkwo remains a one-trick pony. He wins and loses with a bull rush with only an occasional spin move. His hand play is inconsistent at best and he can't drop into coverage. He doesn't play the run well as he is not stout at the POA. Against better OT's he gets stoned. That's why he's going to drop to #3 on the depth chart and probably won't be extended. Okoronkwo's future will be dictated by Garrett's progress as his draft pick was directed at Okoronkwo's position.

So I see their base front 4 as Floyd, AD, Gaines, and Miller with Floyd and Miller interchangeable on which side they play. Both Floyd and Miller play the run well and are 3 down players. With this D front, teams won't be able to pass with just their OL in protection. MIller will force them to keep at least 6 in protection.

Rozeboom gives them needed depth at ILB but they give up some speed at the position if they are looking at Reeder's position. Reeder is a UFA next year and with his performance numbers, he won't lack for offers. With Miller now on board they will need cap money to sign all the OL, Miller, and hopefully Williams. Reeder could be a cap casualty, with Snead perhaps thinking of a possible comp pick for him. That's why I think we will see Rozeboom play some snaps. Christian is a pretty good ILB who understands zone pass concepts. He's much like Jones who uses his anticipation to give him a jump on the play. Both Jones and Rozeboom time about the same in the 40 (4.7 range). But lack of speed at ILB will limit how they are used in pass coverage and will most certainly result at times in playing a dime with another SS playing the ILB role. People downplay Reeder but his game production says otherwise. He won't lack for offers as good MIKE LBs are hard to find.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Floyd is too light to play inside. If Morris goes to a double 3T set they could use Lewis at the second 3T but he may not stand up to the pounding. Why people keep discounting Gaine's play is a bit of a head-scratcher. These same people hold SJD in high regard yet Gaines continually outplays him on fewer snaps. Gaines gets better penetration and knows how to shed a block. SJD to this day struggles in both aspects of his game.

IMO Floyd and Miller are pretty much interchangeable. I think Morris will in the beginning play Miller as RDE to get a feel for his compatibility. But I see him rotating sides with Floyd to evaluate matchups in any given game. Lewis goes back to his rotational role filling in on both edges. Okoronkwo remains a one-trick pony. He wins and loses with a bull rush with only an occasional spin move. His hand play is inconsistent at best and he can't drop into coverage. He doesn't play the run well as he is not stout at the POA. Against better OT's he gets stoned. That's why he's going to drop to #3 on the depth chart and probably won't be extended. Okoronkwo's future will be dictated by Garrett's progress as his draft pick was directed at Okoronkwo's position.

So I see their base front 4 as Floyd, AD, Gaines, and Miller with Floyd and Miller interchangeable on which side they play. Both Floyd and Miller play the run well and are 3 down players. With this D front, teams won't be able to pass with just their OL in protection. MIller will force them to keep at least 6 in protection.

Rozeboom gives them needed depth at ILB but they give up some speed at the position if they are looking at Reeder's position. Reeder is a UFA next year and with his performance numbers, he won't lack for offers. With Miller now on board they will need cap money to sign all the OL, Miller, and hopefully Williams. Reeder could be a cap casualty, with Snead perhaps thinking of a possible comp pick for him. That's why I think we will see Rozeboom play some snaps. Christian is a pretty good ILB who understands zone pass concepts. He's much like Jones who uses his anticipation to give him a jump on the play. Both Jones and Rozeboom time about the same in the 40 (4.7 range). But lack of speed at ILB will limit how they are used in pass coverage and will most certainly result at times in playing a dime with another SS playing the ILB role. People downplay Reeder but his game production says otherwise. He won't lack for offers as good MIKE LBs are hard to find.

Agree with much of what you say here, but Reeder will be an RFA next season, not a CAP casualty.

 

[ReekofRams]

I think they ought to keep alternating the sides that Floyd and Miller come from to keep the offenses guessing.

 

[Mister Sin]

I think Miller has to be on that LT. Floyd is playing lights out....that left side is his. He's earned it. I wonder if Lewis has any value inside.

 

[Florida_Ram]

I predict they move Floyd over left tackle when Miller comes in.

They did that some when Lewis was playing.

I don’t know if that will be an improvement though. Floyd feasts against right tackles.

Interesting @Elmgrovegnome

I'll be keeping an eye on where they put and move Floyd around when Von is in the game with him.

The chess board just got a lot more creative for Raheem.

 

[CoachAllred]

I predict they move Floyd over left tackle when Miller comes in.

They did that some when Lewis was playing.

I don’t know if that will be an improvement though. Floyd feasts against right tackles.

I am hoping we can keep Floyd on the left. I think Miller is probably better suited to
face LT's just from a talent stand point.
Of course this is coming straight from the armchair.

I'm sure they will also be coming with some innovative alignments , playing some
matchup games. the possibilities are endless.


Sunday can't get here quick enough, It almost feels like I'm waiting to see Stafford throw his first
pass as a Ram , all over again.

 

[Florida_Ram]

They certainly can and they will at times. But if they don't have Von on the blindside as a base look they're doing it wrong IMO. It's not about what guys want sometimes, but moreso where they help the team the most. This defense has not had a plus threat on that blindside for some time now and Von providing that is going to change shit for the better.

So @Merlin your opinion is Raheem Morris and his defensive assistants better keep Von on the blindside for the high majority of his snaps when him and Floyd are on the field at the same time.

I will be watching closely how Raheem chooses to move his chess pieces.

Floyd and Von.

Von and Floyd.

I'm also very curious how "Justin Hollins" will line up on the chess board when he returns.

 

[Kupped]

I’m more interested to see how this impacts Ramsey.
I think it makes a greater argument for putting him on the #1 WR every 3rd down.

 

[Mackeyser]

Kind of like the old Giants "Jet front", playing 4 DE's against Brady & the Pat's in the SB.

YES! That was a Spags invention and man did it work. I been wanting to talk about this very thing for a few days, but couldn't remember what they called it. Thanks!

I sure wouldn't mind seeing something like that on the next 3rd and 17 instead of whatever we've trotted out lately... giving up 3rd and longs is one of my worst pet peeves.

 

[Mackeyser]

He'll improve our team. A true pro that younger players can see what true work ethic is and aspire to.
No matter what if he can stay healthy he'll put our defense over the top.

he could just threaten to put people in a leg lock... no, we're not done marveling at his massive thighs...

I used to have oversized thighs like that (not as big overall, but def looked like it with my thin 155lb 6'2" frame) and other than making pants impossible to find, there's just so much power there.

Anyway, you can already tell that the mood of the entire team has just been ratcheted up significantly.

I dunno how the game's gonna go, but I do know that especially the D is gonna be FLYING around out there on Sunday night.

 

[BonifayRam]

Noting that Miller has recently been nursing an ankle injury suffered on Oct. 21 on that ankle he has an issue last season & was IR'd. I see no reason to rush this aging veteran pass rusher back into HD action at any Rams front five positions. Rams are well-stocked at this point.

I posted on this same question right after the Miller trade was announced & there was really not much posted to directly answer this question then.

I would plan on utilizing Miller after the bye based on seeing how he is practicing with the first team DL/LB ing unit in various positions. Having healthy OLB'ers Floyd/ Lewis/ Okorankwo/ Garrett/ Lawler/ Jones provides the Rams to give Miller two extra weeks of nursing on that ankle & that is what I would do.

I would think that Miller would be part of keeping the Ram main pass rushers fresh as possible playing Miller all over the front five mixings and blending up the pass rush packages as much as possible. That would be my plan.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Noting that Miller has recently been nursing an ankle injury suffered on Oct. 21 on that ankle he has an issue last season & was IR'd. I see no reason to rush this aging veteran pass rusher back into HD action at any Rams front five positions. Rams are well-stocked at this point.

I posted on this same question right after the Miller trade was announced & there was really not much posted to directly answer this question then.

I would plan on utilizing Miller after the bye based on seeing how he is practicing with the first team DL/LB ing unit in various positions. Having healthy OLB'ers Floyd/ Lewis/ Okorankwo/ Garrett/ Lawler/ Jones provides the Rams to give Miller two extra weeks of nursing on that ankle & that is what I would do.

I would think that Miller would be part of keeping the Ram main pass rushers fresh as possible playing Miller all over the front five mixings and blending up the pass rush packages as much as possible. That would be my plan.

While I understand your point about keeping him healthy & safe for the post BYE and play-off games, if the doctors give him the go-ahead, Von is going to want in just as much as McVay, Donald, Floyd and we fans will. You are right though, safety first !

 

[IE Rams]

Love that pic—that’s our squad AND our Front Office

 

[rdlkgliders]

I think he alternates with Floyd over the RT, maybe 25% of the time. If Both Floyd and Von are in together, Floyd will get the nod over the RT to start. This keeps our D in sync with what they have been doing. I do believe w will see Von on the right but not much. It will be fun to watch

 

[majrleaged]

Any reason not to line them up next to each other? Kinda hard to double team if they are on the same side. Then AD in the middle with lewis on the other side. Sounds scary to me.

 

[So Ram]

Noting that Miller has recently been nursing an ankle injury suffered on Oct. 21 on that ankle he has an issue last season & was IR'd. I see no reason to rush this aging veteran pass rusher back into HD action at any Rams front five positions. Rams are well-stocked at this point.

I posted on this same question right after the Miller trade was announced & there was really not much posted to directly answer this question then.

I would plan on utilizing Miller after the bye based on seeing how he is practicing with the first team DL/LB ing unit in various positions. Having healthy OLB'ers Floyd/ Lewis/ Okorankwo/ Garrett/ Lawler/ Jones provides the Rams to give Miller two extra weeks of nursing on that ankle & that is what I would do.

I would think that Miller would be part of keeping the Ram main pass rushers fresh as possible playing Miller all over the front five mixings and blending up the pass rush packages as much as possible. That would be my plan.

Mcvay & Morris both said there is a chance Von Miller won’t play.The fact he is practicing this week makes me believe he will play.

AD99 has said they have a few things drawn up that he is interested in seeing during games.

My guess is he will get close to 25-30 snaps this Sunday.Which side & where he lines up I will not predict except lining up in the right side is The Rams biggest need as of now.

 

[badnews]

Playing against opponents who might not be as familiar with Von Miller, who already have their book on facing Donald, watching for #5, etc. Now there's a surging Leonard Floyd to relentlessly attack with his length, strength and technique (hence the Rams leading in sacks) AND Von Miller. The second best pass rusher of his generation, for the first time in a decade, away from double-teams and Offensive attention?

I don't know what he has left... but I bet it's enough. If our STs were better I would think we might even have some EXTREMELY one sided contests and maybe some shut outs in our future...

 

[Mackeyser]

Floyd gets moved to either side and I expect that if at first Miller is solely comfortable on the left side over the right tackle, then they will maximize his output by putting Miller on the left and Floyd on the right.

As time goes on, I would expect for all of them to move around as Morris has done for everyone this season.

 

[PressureD41]

Von will line up over the QB about 1.9 seconds after ball was snapped