Ugh! Puka hurt again

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PhillyRam said:
And I noticed he was all over the Rams GDT in the first half then went quiet in the 2nd half. The guy just likes to bitch and he continues to bitch about the same thing. And its something we all pretty much agree on.

I mean on draft night most of us wanted WR to be addressed in the first 3 rds and were disappointed. So not sure what his point is? Are we supposed to go make a trade for the Rams so they can get a WR? What does he want from us?

It's tiresome.
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Then tell the people coming after me to pipe down.

If the consensus you suggest existed.. my takes wouldn’t be an issue.
 
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I think it's pretty obvious we need a day-to-day WR. Tutu's value was always the long bomb and/or Go patterns. He has limited use. I knew that but still wanted him back, but he needs to be used to his strengths. Mumfield shows promise. Whittington? I think the guy has taken a step back from last season. Whether that is because Stafford refuses to target him, I don't know. But I can't recall the last pass he caught.
 
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Pupped said:
Then don't read it.
Put me on ignore.
Use the tools at your discretion.
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I try not to ignore people, you do contribute some good thoughts. You just have a tendency to beat a dead horse when someone offers a differing opinion. I couldnt care less if a person doesnt agree with me, I dont need to keep beat the horse to make people agree with me. Some people on here, not just you, seem to need everyone to agree with them for some kind of satisfaction.
 
tomas said:
I rewatched the play (10 times) and I’m like 99% sure it’s a bone bruise the guys helmet collided with his knee
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Would you MRI for that if it were the case or would you be able to know before ordering that test? Are they just being cautious?

Not throwing snark - I have no idea.
 
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MadGoat said:
He isn't moving well in this video from after the game.
View: https://x.com/Mrupandgo_/status/2119561900178698354
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Not great but honestly if you put a camera in the Rams parking lot tomorrow, 70% of the team will be walking exactly like that when they head into the facility. NFL games are fucking brutal. I remember Jerome Bettis saying once that he could never walk down the steps on Mondays. He’d have to sit down on his ass and scooch down the steps.
 
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12intheBox said:
Would you MRI for that if it were the case or would you be able to know before ordering that test? Are they just being cautious?

Not throwing snark - I have no idea.
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Honestly they can do a test on the sideline and usually tell if it’s an ACL with pretty good accuracy. It’s like a 90% hit rate. It’s not as concrete as an MRI, but the fact that he was walking off the field with no trainers or anyone else around makes me think he avoided a tear.

Id love if we could give him next Sunday off, which would give him a full 2+ weeks to get ready for GB.
 
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Marshawn Lynch was saying that they put one of those accelerometers in his shoulder pads and the combined impacts of one game amounted to 9 severe car accidents...NINE...that's crazy... and then to do that 17 times or more a year?

Ooof, brutal.
 
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Spider2YB said:
Honestly they can do a test on the sideline and usually tell if it’s an ACL with pretty good accuracy. It’s like a 90% hit rate. It’s not as concrete as an MRI, but the fact that he was walking off the field with no trainers or anyone else around makes me think he avoided a tear.

Id love if we could give him next Sunday off, which would give him a full 2+ weeks to get ready for GB.
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It was mentioned that on field tests for ACL were negative
 
Mackeyser said:
Marshawn Lynch was saying that they put one of those accelerometers in his shoulder pads and the combined impacts of one game amounted to 9 severe car accidents...NINE...that's crazy... and then to do that 17 times or more a year?

Ooof, brutal.
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Yeah I remember watching a Colts game once when Andrew Luck lacerated his kidney and they came out the next week and said the hit he took was the equivalent of crashing while driving a motorcycle 45 MPH.
 
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Pupped said:
So.. let's have an honest conversation.

I've also pointed out that not only is he getting targeted more per game this year..
He's getting targeted waaaay too much on those shallow targets where he takes a ton of hits.

It's many factors.. and they're all right in front of us.
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I don't think you're really looking for honest. Earlier this week, I pointed out that Puka's targets per game WITH Adams were 13 and 11 without Adams.

You didn't engage with that at all...obviously because it doesn't fit your agenda. I knew then that honesty wasn't on the menu.

After today, the targets per game are slightly higher without Adams, with both in the 13 range.

I agree that it's many factors, but you haven't been willing to acknowledge two major ones: Stafford and McVay. I would love to have more WR talent, but because of Stafford and McVay's tendencies, I don't think it will change much this season.

I'm skeptical that Stafford will develop the requisite trust with a new guy to actually consistently target him.
 
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Spider2YB said:
This is just a total misunderstanding of how passing offenses operate. When we send 4 guys into a route, it’s not like Stafford is just waiting to see which one pops open. At least 2 of the receivers running routes are running to create space. They are not actually part of Stafford’s progression. They are being used to draw other defenders away from an area on the field. Schlereth talked about it on the broadcast today. They are running “for the love of the game” routes to create openings for Puka. It’s not a “pure progression” offense.
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What's that got to do with Puka being targeted 24 times with Adams on the field? The whole argument was that Adams gives Stafford another trusted target, which means that Adams isn't running "for the love of the game" routes.

You're implying that there's one receiver in the progression. That's ridiculous.

And yet....Stafford and McVay over-rely on Puka.
 
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DzRams said:
I don't think you're really looking for honest. Earlier this week, I pointed out that Puka's targets per game WITH Adams were 13 and 11 without Adams.

You didn't engage with that at all...obviously because it doesn't fit your agenda. I knew then that honesty wasn't on the menu.

After today, the targets per game are slightly higher without Adams, with both in the 13 range.

I agree that it's many factors, but you haven't been willing to acknowledge two major ones: Stafford and McVay. I would love to have more WR talent, but because of Stafford and McVay's tendencies, I don't think it will change much this season.

I'm skeptical that Stafford will develop the requisite trust with a new guy to actually consistently target him.
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It doesn’t fit because Adams is out and we’re seeing higher usage than ever for him.
Games with 25 & 19 targets this season.. he’s had one game with 20 targets in his entire career previously.
I’ve pointed out he’s taking more hits than ever.

I’ve also pointed out it’s not functional to have only one viable WR target.

You want to say there’s no difference.. but there is.
 
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snackdaddy said:
I do not understand why they ran Puka knowing they were not gonna get the first down. All they were trying to do is use clock before they punt. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
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I will add to your correct response.
Why would let the most over-worked player on the team
even run the ball at all. his body can only take so much,
before it breaks down?????????
 
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