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I'd imagine Evans, Brewer and Anchrum are battling for this position. With Jackson and Pircher, that's 10 lineman.. so.. do they have to draft OL??

It all depends on what they really have in the pipeline, in house.
I'm not counting Max Pircher, I really don't think he'll ever play in the NFL and unless Evans pulls a Brian Allen, I don't have any faith in him whatsoever, but i posted that about Allen last year. I truly believe this year the Rams want a road grader at RG to combine with Havenstein to improve the run game, that is why I believe they will draft a Guard early and a developmental tackle like Dare Rosenthal from Kentucky (Liam Coen) Rosenthal can backup at RT plus have he ability to play LT too. I believe in Alaric Jackson, but he's a LT not a RT and there is a difference.

As to Brewer & Anchrum I'm not counting them out, but they did not play well last season so again i believe that OL Coaches Kevin Carberry & Nick Jones would like to restock the OL with their type of guys.
 

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I'm not counting Max Pircher, I really don't think he'll ever play in the NFL and unless Evans pulls a Brian Allen, I don't have any faith in him whatsoever, but i posted that about Allen last year. I truly believe this year the Rams want a road grader at RG to combine with Havenstein to improve the run game, that is why I believe they will draft a Guard early and a developmental tackle like Dare Rosenthal from Kentucky (Liam Coen) Rosenthal can backup at RT plus have he ability to play LT too. I believe in Alaric Jackson, but he's a LT not a RT and there is a difference.

As to Brewer & Anchrum I'm not counting them out, but they did not play well last season so again i believe that OL Coaches Kevin Carberry & Nick Jones would like to restock the OL with their type of guys.
I agree with a bunch that you're saying, but my point is that it's what the organization thinks of those prospects will matter.

Brewer, Evans and Anchrum all underwhelmed tremendously last preseason... so, I would be open to business in the draft. I think the Rams will go corner and edge with their first two picks.. but could see them spam the rest of the draft and pick 3 OL.
 

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Brewer, Evans and Anchrum all underwhelmed tremendously last preseason... so, I would be open to business in the draft. I think the Rams will go corner and edge with their first two picks.. but could see them spam the rest of the draft and pick 3 OL.
I agree that Edge & CB could be first on the docket, but we'll have to see how free agency plays out too in order to access the needs for the end of April. We should not rule out LB early especially if the Rams take somebody like Jesse Luketa who can play defensive end, OLB & ILB as the Rams love versatility and Luketa seems to be that type of player.
 

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Drafting Atwell over Humphries was a mistake, I truly believe one of the first two picks will be a Guard, they could wait until the 5th and trade up in the 5th with some of their 6th's with the first picks being CB & Edge, but this is the year they need to draft Offensive Linemen, they drafted two in 2018 in Boom & Allen, then two more in 2019 in Evans & Edwards, so I expect two, maybe even 3 and don't be shocked if they are a couple from Kentucky because of Liam Coen.
One thing I've learned after watching these guys for 5 years is, expect the unexpected. After the OL injury debacle of 2019, many expected them to draft OL early and often. They started by taking a RB a round higher than the previous season, then went WR, despite having Kupp, Woods and Reynolds, waiting until the 7th round to grab Anchrum. Last year, many were certain they'd be going C/OL and they didn't draft a single O lineman. Based on that, I suppose we could expect them to go OL in this draft. It would be a wise move. I expect another RB, TE, a couple of CBs, Edge, LB and a couple OL. The bigger question is in what order?

On Liam Cohen, they got Carberry last year and didn't take a single Stanford player. Having said that the OT (Fortner) is rated fairly high (in respect to the Rams slots). So watch them take a WR like Dontario Drummond (Miss) and make him a RB/WR, ala Deebo Samuel. :laugh1:
 

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I agree that Edge & CB could be first on the docket, but we'll have to see how free agency plays out too in order to access the needs for the end of April. We should not rule out LB early especially if the Rams take somebody like Jesse Luketa who can play defensive end, OLB & ILB as the Rams love versatility and Luketa seems to be that type of player.
But they have at least one of those guys already in Justin Hollins. He wasn't as impactful when he came back from injury.. but he started the year out pretty damn well.
With how Lewis ended the year and OBO gone, I think they must bring in another edge in the draft. We'll see.
If they draft a ILB type before a corner, I'll scream.
 

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On Liam Cohen, they got Carberry last year and didn't take a single Stanford player. Having said that the OT (Fortner) is rated fairly high (in respect to the Rams slots). So watch them take a WR like Dontario Drummond (Miss) and make him a RB/WR, ala Deebo Samuel. :laugh1:
Agreed and again I do expect the unexpected, but Kentucky has a few OL available and though it appears the Rams like to develop their own, I also believe it's time to restock and do feel strongly the Rams will take a Guard, but you could be right the Rams could ignore and then either Anchrum, Evans or Brewer find themselves, but I believe one of those Georgia Guards or later even Cade Mays from Tennessee, who has played both Left & Right Guard plus Center and at 6'6 325lbs would be a welcome addition to the group IMHO.
 

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If they draft a ILB type before a corner, I'll scream.
Unless they somebody in their CB room who has been developing like Tyler Hall or Kareem Orr plus again I'm not ruling out a signing at CB in free agency.
 

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Unless they somebody in their CB room who has been developing like Tyler Hall or Kareem Orr plus again I'm not ruling out a signing at CB in free agency.
It really depends on what we can expect out of whomever it is they sign. If it's someone who can compete with Rochell this season, I think they might be able to go the route you're suggesting.
But I'd probably draft a couple of corners, no matter what. Deayon is a fun story but doesn't belong on an NFL field. I want more non-shrimp corners who can really tackle.
 

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But I'd probably draft a couple of corners, no matter what. Deayon is a fun story but doesn't belong on an NFL field. I want more non-shrimp corners who can really tackle.
I would agree here, just like at RB, I want a bigger back, not 5-10 200lbs or less and at CB would prefer bigger CB's and as much as we all love Deayon, he's limited and it's time to move on.

Also I don't understand what is taking so long for the finalization of the coaching staff, I would really like to know about who is assisting who, especially in the secondary with Jonathan Cooley, who I assume is the new Secondary coach, but anxious to see who will be working with him.
 

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Drafting Atwell over Humphries was a mistake, I truly believe one of the first two picks will be a Guard, they could wait until the 5th and trade up in the 5th with some of their 6th's with the first picks being CB & Edge, but this is the year they need to draft Offensive Linemen, they drafted two in 2018 in Boom & Allen, then two more in 2019 in Evans & Edwards, so I expect two, maybe even 3 and don't be shocked if they are a couple from Kentucky because of Liam Coen.
Drafting of a pure right OG is certainly on my order.

Harder to find & replace Shelton with a good swing center/LG/RG than just an RG. Rams also must find a new Swing OT now that Noteboom is the starting & that's not an easy issue either. This 2022 OL lineup is very short on over 305 plus OG's but a truckload of OT's.

I see the 0ver 6-7 Alaric Jackson being mentioned in as an OG but I just don't think that's his real skill. The over 6-6 Chandler Brewer has been primarily used @ OT in preseasons, so has 6-1 Tremayne Anchrum. 6-2 Jeremiah Kolone since entering the NFL has been a center.

Any Rams fan who half a brain cell knows Bobby Evans can not play the OG position. Max Pircher is over 6-7 & Adrian Ealy is over 6-6 both are pure OT's not an ounce of OG in them.

Can anyone name the last time Snead drafted a college starting OG? Seven drafts ago in the 6th round!

That 6-6 tall OG did not work out too well for Snead.
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Drafting of a pure right OG is certainly on my order.

Any Rams fan who half a brain cell knows Bobby Evans can not play the OG position. Max Pircher is over 6-7 & Adrian Ealy is over 6-6 both are pure OT's not an ounce of OG in them.
As usual when it comes to the offensive line you and I are on the dame page. I like a couple of the George guards as @Riverumbbq had Jamaree Salyer, who IMO, would be sent from central casting step right in at RG and away we go. Now others can be added, again, I do like Cade Mays from Tennessee, who can be drafted later, but all of us know that this is the year the Rams go Offensive Line early because it is right, it is just and Lord knows, it is time!

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Drafting Atwell over Humphries was a mistake, I truly believe one of the first two picks will be a Guard, they could wait until the 5th and trade up in the 5th with some of their 6th's with the first picks being CB & Edge, but this is the year they need to draft Offensive Linemen, they drafted two in 2018 in Boom & Allen, then two more in 2019 in Evans & Edwards, so I expect two, maybe even 3 and don't be shocked if they are a couple from Kentucky because of Liam Coen.
If you can win a Super Bowl with a mediocre Oline, then why do you feel the need to upgrade? The Rams need more receivers! That’s where it’s at in the modern NFL!
 

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As usual when it comes to the offensive line you and I are on the dame page. I like a couple of the George guards as @Riverumbbq had Jamaree Salyer, who IMO, would be sent from central casting step right in at RG and away we go. Now others can be added, again, I do like Cade Mays from Tennessee, who can be drafted later, but all of us know that this is the year the Rams go Offensive Line early because it is right, it is just and Lord knows, it is time!

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All the assets just invested in our veteran QB it sure would not be wise to fail to put forth a good size effort in the main protection unit of that franchise QB.

The Rams lost their starting RG Corbett to 2022 UFA'cy without a true bonafide replacement OG on the roster.

Next yr this same time the Rams stand an elevated possibility to also yield their starting LG to FA'cy in 2023.

The time to go get legit-proven OG's is now in this upcoming draft!
 

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From one perspective, what you're saying about drafting linemen makes 100% sense.. but I was thinking that last year!!!
What I don't know that I do know will factor greatly into the Rams draft plans.
-What do they really think they have in Alaric Jackson? If they think he's a legitimate potential LT, who could also fill-in at RT.. there's really no need to draft an OT, because they also have a developmental tackle on their roster in Pircher (although.. if they don't think he's going to develop, they'd surely draft one).
-Who's the right guard? If it's Shelton right now, boy, do I think they're drafting a guard with the 3rd or 4th round pick. I think Shelton is fine as a stopgap, but they need a guy with more physical upside to hopefully dominate at that position. I'd imagine Evans, Brewer and Anchrum are battling for this position. With Jackson and Pircher, that's 10 lineman.. so.. do they have to draft OL??

It all depends on what they really have in the pipeline, in house.

I’ll ask you one question & hope for the answer. Did Pircher play any center in the preseason. Did he play tackle ? Maybe guard ?

IMO he was really trying to learn the center position.I know what I thought I saw. If you go by The Rams web-site AJ Jackson has been 210 lbs all season.

Maybe at some point I’ll have enough energy to look player stats up? Personally though I like to see a lot of posters flailing.
 

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All the assets just invested in our veteran QB it sure would not be wise to fail to put forth a good size effort in the main protection unit of that franchise QB.

The Rams lost their starting RG Corbett to 2022 UFA'cy without a true bonafide replacement OG on the roster.

Next yr this same time the Rams stand an elevated possibility to also yield their starting LG to FA'cy in 2023.

The time to go get legit-proven OG's is now in this upcoming draft!

LMAO - I called you out on some post yesterday & this is what you come up with Bonifay’d? I remember early in the season you were going to give up on The NFL all together.
California gas prices were at a decent price when you came to Cali & your senses. Year to year you bring different thoughts. Just think Andrew Whitworth went through a SuperBowl season only giving up 1 sack at 40?

I can go down the line,but wishing you would because your just so damn good at it. You break down all the lineman so well.

I’m asking for The as is Offensive Lineman for this coming up Sunday. Depth & practice squad. I think there is a nice group of players after Note,shel,& B.Allen.! Add Edwards & Big Hav
 

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It really depends on what we can expect out of whomever it is they sign. If it's someone who can compete with Rochell this season, I think they might be able to go the route you're suggesting.
But I'd probably draft a couple of corners, no matter what. Deayon is a fun story but doesn't belong on an NFL field. I want more non-shrimp corners who can really tackle.
I would agree here, just like at RB, I want a bigger back, not 5-10 200lbs or less and at CB would prefer bigger CB's and as much as we all love Deayon, he's limited and it's time to move on.

Also I don't understand what is taking so long for the finalization of the coaching staff, I would really like to know about who is assisting who, especially in the secondary with Jonathan Cooley, who I assume is the new Secondary coach, but anxious to see who will be working with him.

I was flipping through the PFF grades for CB’s… Ramsey rated #1… also top 50… Dont’e Deayon #33. (y)

:wow2:
 

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I was flipping through the PFF grades for CB’s… Ramsey rated #1… also top 50… Dont’e Deayon #33. (y)

:wow2:

From all the above IMO Raheem Morris is going to want better DB’s
as far as depth goes.The Rams are stacked at WR/ TE types.

OTA’s with better DB’s will be good for those 7 on 7’s. That is & has been a thing. Herd Johnny Football is in one of those leagues. My point is not that,but how I see things evolving.
Call it a Trend.

Raheem Morris for all those Haters & Doubters is a Blessing for The Rams.
IMO could have had that Vikings job ahead of O’Connel or maybe left with him ? Morris is such a good person & coach. He really Lives being a Ram & working with Mcvay. Building his knowledge & craft.

Raheem Morris has(had) a lot to do in the draft.His input will be huge.I’m guessing that DB/ Cb is a priority.