Tru Had Deal Ready to Go With Saints

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Brockers & Quinn are under contract thru the 2019 season. Unless traded, cutting Austin only gives us $3.mil in CAP relief for 2018. Cutting Saffold could save $6.5 mil. & cutting Barron could save another $7. mil.

Those guys bring value to the team. There contracts are reasonable.

Then again that is for another season. I'm just excited about this year. The Rams have some solid veterans finally. The players they added in free agency really. Solidifies the team
 

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Only Rams fans! Planning on who to cut before the season starts and talking about trading our best player in another thread.
 

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This has been mentioned before, but the Rams were unsure how he'd fit in the defense, so if he excels they're probably more likely to be resigned. Right now I think they're stuck before they get Donald locked up, so they know where everything else will fit.
 

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We're going to have to part ways with a good player or two this offseason. Good corners are hard to find. Not sure what cutting Barron and Austin would save after this season, but it might be in the cards. I'd cut them both if it meant we could keep Watkins, Donald, Tru, and Tree
Like when we cut Long and J-Lau to make room for Jenkins, McLeod and Tru.
 

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Brockers & Quinn are under contract thru the 2019 season. Unless traded, cutting Austin only gives us $3.mil in CAP relief for 2018. Cutting Saffold could save $6.5 mil. & cutting Barron could save another $7. mil.

Interesting. I was alluding to the fact that if Quinn once again gives us minimal production, there's no reason to hold on to him for one more year if we need cap relief. Not sure how much cap relief he'll bring if we cut him, but we don't need under-performing vets on this team; not the culture anymore. It would send a message to the young guys and exemplify the notion that "hey, no matter the name on the back of your jersey, if you don't show up, you're out!" ala Bill Bellicheck. Brockers, on the hand, could be extended another 3-4 years and create even more space.

TA is pretty much gone, regardless of results, in my book. I have an unsettling feeling that it'll take him a few games at the least to get acclimated, since he's missed so much time. By then, we'll know what we have in our other targets. His gadget style play is easily replaceable in the draft, let's face it. As for Barron, I think it truly comes down to production in Wade's scheme. If he can hold down the ILB position without getting too beat up or run over, I think his play will merit his affordable cap hit.

Remember too, we are down a premium pick so we will have to be smart and strategic in keeping as many quality players as possible, while trimming as much replaceable fat as possible too.
 

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Interesting. I was alluding to the fact that if Quinn once again gives us minimal production, there's no reason to hold on to him for one more year if we need cap relief. Not sure how much cap relief he'll bring if we cut him, but we don't need under-performing vets on this team; not the culture anymore. It would send a message to the young guys and exemplify the notion that "hey, no matter the name on the back of your jersey, if you don't show up, you're out!" ala Bill Bellicheck. Brockers, on the hand, could be extended another 3-4 years and create even more space.

TA is pretty much gone, regardless of results, in my book. I have an unsettling feeling that it'll take him a few games at the least to get acclimated, since he's missed so much time. By then, we'll know what we have in our other targets. His gadget style play is easily replaceable in the draft, let's face it. As for Barron, I think it truly comes down to production in Wade's scheme. If he can hold down the ILB position without getting too beat up or run over, I think his play will merit his affordable cap hit.

Remember too, we are down a premium pick so we will have to be smart and strategic in keeping as many quality players as possible, while trimming as much replaceable fat as possible too.

I can't see the Rams carrying something well north of $20.mil in CAP for 2 ILB's as Ogletree hits free agency next season.
As for Quinn, he carries about $1.mil in dead CAP next year, but the CAP savings would be over $10.mil if cut, although he is one of those transformative players well worth his cost if he is back to his old self. When healthy, Quinn is as valuable as Donald. Rams fans may think they have a lot of available CAP to work with next year, but we also have several quality players entering free agency. Signing Donald to a $100 + mil. contract will have a debilitating effect on a quality veteran roster. jmo.
 

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I can't see the Rams carrying something well north of $20.mil in CAP for 2 ILB's as Ogletree hits free agency next season. I can agree with this. However, can we find a replacement in free agency who understands our scheme and has Barron's skill-set at a $7 mill cap hit, or in the draft where we have to be mindful of our precious top picks with no second? The only thing I can think of is Wade does do a tremendous job finding cheap LB options who fit a certain size/speed combo for the ILB position, just look at his track record in Denver.
As for Quinn, he carries about $1.mil in dead CAP next year, but the CAP savings would be over $10.mil if cut, although he is one of those transformative players well worth his cost if he is back to his old self. When healthy, Quinn is as valuable as Donald. Agreed with this completely, but this is one of our biggest IF's on defense. He has been a shade of himself since all the injuries and the big contract so I'm not holding my breath. Rams fans may think they have a lot of available CAP to work with next year, but we also have several quality players entering free agency. Signing Donald to a $100 + mil. contract will have a debilitating effect on a quality veteran roster. jmo. Agreed, but I'm confident in Demoff and co.
 

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Well I think finding a player to fill tru's shoes won't be as hard as some think. He's a top fifteen corner not a top ten

I think he's a better press corner than playing off so we'll see. But it all goes with scheme
 

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In a passing league you must have great corners. Tru is one of them in my opinion. I prioritize him over Tree, Austin and Barron. I'm trying to sign Wakins to a long term but if Reynolds or Thomas explode I'm saving that money for Tru or
Another top FA CB. I'm not trusting a rookie in the draft. Woods probably becomes expendable with our young WR talent. I also would have to let Quinn go if he doesn't return to form again.

It all depends how these guys play this year. But My team must have strong corners.


Very good points
 

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If you look at Denver's frree agency under Phillips, it suggests that he values DBs and OLBs most of all. They allowed DLs and MLBs to hit free agency.

So much depends on how well Tru plays or if they think they can replace his production next offseason.

Pass rush and pass defense are paramount. I think that means Donald gets signed. Ogletree and or Barron may be gone.

Hopefully Webster plays well. Finding one good corner will be hard enough.
 
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Tru is as good as gone. He's priced himself out of the horns.

This team needs to reload some young corners in next year's draft. At least one and preferably by round 2. I presume OL will be heavily considered early as well of course.
 

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View: https://twitter.com/alden_gonzalez/status/900394269600501760


This is rediculous. The guy wants to be here. Give him a freakin extension. As bad as he wants to stay, I hardly doubt he's playing hardball on the numbers.

I dont believe the article. If he wanted to sign long term with the Rams, then why sign the franchise tender within minutes of it being placed on him.

As for signing him long term, I think hes good as gone. He's coming off 2 years at 32-33 mill. Think he'll take a pay cut from that??
 

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He's made...26 mill in TWO seasons....hopefully he comes with a deal now that he's gotten PAID in FULL.

Wonder WHY he didn't wanna go to the Saints? I got a few guesses...

I need 10 int's to THINK about bringing him back.

If he wanted to sign long term with the Rams, then why sign the franchise tender within minutes of it being placed on him.
You can still negotiate a contract after you sign the tag....they do it often...but only until July 15th or so...something like that.
 

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I dont believe the article. If he wanted to sign long term with the Rams, then why sign the franchise tender within minutes of it being placed on him.

As for signing him long term, I think hes good as gone. He's coming off 2 years at 32-33 mill. Think he'll take a pay cut from that??

He doesn't have a choice. There's not a team in the league that's going to offer him 16M per.
 

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As for signing him long term, I think hes good as gone. He's coming off 2 years at 32-33 mill. Think he'll take a pay cut from that??

He's going to have to do that. The question is if it's with the Rams or another team.
 

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I dont believe the article. If he wanted to sign long term with the Rams, then why sign the franchise tender within minutes of it being placed on him.

As for signing him long term, I think hes good as gone. He's coming off 2 years at 32-33 mill. Think he'll take a pay cut from that??

This was old news prior to Alden's tweet. Now the reasons for signing so quickly:

1) it GUARANTEES him a boatload of $$
2) he could stand the risk of having his tag rescinded by tagging team, leaving him blowing in the wind (ala Josh Norman and the panthers)
3) As previously mentioned, he would be able to be resigned regardless of franchise tag designation.

Unless you're a big-time talent and/or at a position where age may be more of factor in terms of longevity, you sign and take the big time money like he did. A guy like Bell has every right to holdout b/c he's a STUD who deserves a big-time deal and whose shelf life is rather small in comparison to other players. I'd hate to be a star RB in today's market, Freeman's deal could've been bigger jmo.
 

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This was old news prior to Alden's tweet. Now the reasons for signing so quickly:

1) it GUARANTEES him a boatload of $$
2) he could stand the risk of having his tag rescinded by tagging team, leaving him blowing in the wind (ala Josh Norman and the panthers)
3) As previously mentioned, he would be able to be resigned regardless of franchise tag designation.

Unless you're a big-time talent and/or at a position where age may be more of factor in terms of longevity, you sign and take the big time money like he did. A guy like Bell has every right to holdout b/c he's a STUD who deserves a big-time deal and whose shelf life is rather small in comparison to other players. I'd hate to be a star RB in today's market, Freeman's deal could've been bigger jmo.
If he had interest in signing long term he wouldn't have signed the tender right away.
He could have at least negotiated a deal elsewhere and put it in the Rams court to match. Signing immediately took negotiating off the table.
 

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This team needs to reload some young corners in next year's draft. At least one and preferably by round 2.

We don't have a 2nd round pick in 2018 due to the Sammy Watkins trade. The Rams haven't picked a CB in the first round since Tye Hill in 2006 and before that Todd Lyght in 1991. While that can of course change in the next draft, we're most likely looking at the 3'd round or beyond or a free agent signing at that position.