Top 10 NFL HCs

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If we go by your logic so was Mike Martz 56-36. I'd consider him a great offensive mind, not a great HC. He took over an outstanding team and eventually got shitcanned because they saw the team go down the bowl.

1. Tomlin has a superior career winning percentage to Martz. So no, that's not accurate.
2. Martz got fired as his team was falling apart. The only reason he didn't have a far worst record is because the team got rid of him. And then nobody offered him a HC job. It's an apples to oranges comparison.
 

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The guy who’s beaten McVay 5 straight? Yep.
thing is you gotta beat the other 31 coaches... mcvay can.. shanahan cant...

shanahan has not been up and down... he was up once year... the other 4 years down - wouldnt exactly call that up and down.
 

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1. Tomlin has a superior career winning percentage to Martz. So no, that's not accurate.
2. Martz got fired as his team was falling apart. The only reason he didn't have a far worst record is because the team got rid of him. And then nobody offered him a HC job. It's an apples to oranges comparison
Slightly better better winning % by .024
 

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Tomlin has been a winner for a long time. He is respected in the locker room to do it all those years so well.

He’s a great HC. His coaching turnover was low-ish, with Dick Lebeau all those years as DC. That has to have helped.

Some great offensive coordinators; Bruce Arians and Todd Haley for 11 years.
 

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He took over as Pittsburgh's HC in 2007. He has zero losing seasons. He's not hot garbage. He has a better career record than Cowher.
The lack of respect for Tomlin in here is astounding.
All the guy does is win, year after year.
Also of note, in Tomlin's career the team is 18-14 in games started by QB other than Roethlisberger. Duck Devlin, Charlie Batch, Landry Jones etc...
BB, Tomlin and Harbaugh are top 3 with McVay itching to join them
 

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My Top 10:

1. Bill Belichick - He's the goat. Look at what he's currently doing right now. He knows how to win with less, and dominate with more.

2. Mike Tomlin - Consistently produces a winning product, knows how to get the best out of his players, and can manage a wide range of personalities.

3. John Harbaugh - Like Tomlin, consistently produces a winning product and places his players in a position to succeed. Also a great developer of young talent.

4. Asshole Face - Give him any group of players and he will find a way to win, at the very least compete. One of the greatest offensive minds in all of football.

5. Sean McVay - Sharp, knows how to cultivate a winning culture and manage a football team.

6. Andy Reid - One of the great offensive minds in NFL history

7. Mike Vrabel - Underrated, develops talent well, gets the most out of less, produces a winning culture.

8. Sean McDermott - Most underrated coach on this list, not flashy or loud, just consistent, steady. Builds elite defenses year after year and teams are always well prepared.

9. Bruce Arians - Tell it like it is coach that gets his players to produce consistently.

10. Kyle Shannahan - Hasn't had the greatest luck with injuries, the year his team was the healthiest, they went to a Superbowl. Smart coach, knows how to manage a game and construct a game plan. Has gotten the most out of less.
 

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Only guy I would have to disagree w is Tomlin. The dude is hot garbage. He rode the coat tails of Bill Cowher† and the team has slowly deteriorated. I don't think he's a terrible coach but top 3 eeeeh?
Think about what he's done since becoming the coach. And take a look at their record every year. It's been gradually declining. Jmho of course

My take as well. Not the garbage part.
He's great, just not one of 10 guys I'd hire.

I'll take @jrry32 's list and bump Tomlin off of it.
He's top 15 maybe, but not top 10.
He was definitely the right hire for the right organization at the time though. The Steelers strength is in their continuity and their structure. (btw - Pittsburgh is one of my favorites. The Three Rivers area and downtown are great. (Also, Aaron Donald's cousin drives for Uber there...))

Brandon Staley could be on this list next year. It's all fluid.
 

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The lack of respect for Tomlin in here is astounding.
All the guy does is win, year after year.
Also of note, in Tomlin's career the team is 18-14 in games started by QB other than Roethlisberger. Duck Devlin, Charlie Batch, Landry Jones etc...
BB, Tomlin and Harbaugh are top 3 with McVay itching to join them
15 years into his HC career (I think I have that number right), he has zero losing seasons, a Super Bowl ring, and nine playoff appearances. It's a bit like saying that Russell Wilson isn't a great QB. Whatever your feelings towards the guy, all he has done is win year in and year out. People can talk about Pittsburgh's culture, but culture doesn't keep a team winning.
 

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Slightly better better winning % by .024
Despite the fact that he has coached roughly 150 more games. Mike Martz inherited a Super Bowl winner and ran it into the ground. You're comparing apples to oranges.
 

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thing is you gotta beat the other 31 coaches... mcvay can.. shanahan cant...

shanahan has not been up and down... he was up once year... the other 4 years down - wouldnt exactly call that up and down.
Look at his injuries.
 

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Something stupid like a quarter of his entire career wins have come versus McVay. I can't remember the exact stat I saw. The Rams clearly fear him but nobody else does.
To be owned by one coach is already shitty, but for that coach to be the coach of your most hated team is what makes it the ultimate gut punch, and there’s no way to defend a humiliation like that.
 

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Despite the fact that he has coached roughly 150 more games. Mike Martz inherited a Super Bowl winner and ran it into the ground. You're comparing apples to oranges.
True but when you used superior it was a bit misleading. Oh I couldn't stand Mike Martz for numerous reason but mainly for running of Kurt.. Tomlin is only 3-6 in his past 9 post season games.
 

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If we go by your logic so was Mike Martz 56-36. I'd consider him a great offensive mind, not a great HC. He took over an outstanding team and eventually got shitcanned because they saw the team go down the bowl.


Martz took over a championship team in its prime put together by Dick Vermeil.
 

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True but when you used superior it was a bit misleading. Oh I couldn't stand Mike Martz for numerous reason but mainly for running of Kurt..
A 64.8% winning percentage is superior to a 62.4% winning percentage.
Tomlin is only 3-6 in his past 9 post season games.
Okay?
 

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Yep his 2.4% is slightly better and his 3-6 his last 9 in the post season is slightly awful
I am laughing at the cherry picking of his post season record to try and portray it as awful. You just conveniently stopped before Tomlin's 5-1 stretch where the Steelers made two Super Bowls. Do you know what that record shows? That Tomlin routinely makes the playoffs.
 

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15 years into his HC career (I think I have that number right), he has zero losing seasons, a Super Bowl ring, and nine playoff appearances. It's a bit like saying that Russell Wilson isn't a great QB. Whatever your feelings towards the guy, all he has done is win year in and year out. People can talk about Pittsburgh's culture, but culture doesn't keep a team winning.

Tomlin's a great Head Coach, you know it, I know it and the American People know it.
 

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I am laughing at the cherry picking of his post season record to try and portray it as awful. You just conveniently stopped before Tomlin's 5-1 stretch where the Steelers made two Super Bowls. Do you know what that record shows? That Tomlin routinely makes the playoffs.
8-8 overall and everyone knows in head coaching it's what have you done for me lately. He's definitely a good head coach I just thought your superior wording was a little over the top especially considering how close their winning %'s are and 1 got fired for his record and you all are ready to crown the other,