TNFB: Texans Patsies

[Yamahopper]

It's all scheme with the Pats.

 

[-X-]

It's all scheme with the Pats.

Yep. And decades of the same one.

 

[Dagonet]

Yep. And decades of the same one.

But what scheme is that? I'm thinking they can plug these QB's RB's and WR's in because they build the OL and DL's first? I'm just trying to figure out how they do it time and time again. Perplexing..

 

[-X-]

But what scheme is that? I'm thinking they can plug these QB's RB's and WR's in because they build the OL and DL's first? I'm just trying to figure out how they do it time and time again. Perplexing..

Erhardt-Perkins on offense.
Fairbanks-Bullough on defense.

Since, like, the 70's.

Sadly, Josh McDaniels tried to bring some of that Erhardt-Perkins to the Rams in 2011, but the season was so destroyed by injuries that they couldn't get anything going.

 

[den-the-coach]

Unless you're suggesting that he'd be so preoccupied with looking like a tool that his mind, on a subconscious level, would be free to absorb new ideas and input regarding improving the offense. Hmmm. I like it. I think I saw that on an episode of Big Bang Theory too.

Or in layman's terms....If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

 

[ChrisW]

Erhardt-Perkins on offense.
Fairbanks-Bullough on defense.

Since, like, the 70's.

Sadly, Josh McDaniels tried to bring some of that Erhardt-Perkins to the Rams in 2011, but the season was so destroyed by injuries that they couldn't get anything going.

IIRC, it takes awhile to get it running. Doesn't it?

 

[Yamahopper]

Yep. And decades of the same one.

The more regular season success they have the more bitter the tears when they lose in the playoffs.
Its the reason I still bother to draw breath.

 

[-X-]

IIRC, it takes awhile to get it running. Doesn't it?

I would assume so. But it's a pretty cool offense when you break it down into nuts and bolts. More about concepts and (for lack of a better word) "snapshots" of a play that both the QB and all other players can kind of envision unfolding. From what I was able to gather from reading about it, It's not necessarily based on route trees or particular players, but is heavily reliant on the QB reading arrangements of receivers. You can more or less plug different guys into different formations and into different personnel groups - and if they all understand the concept, it gives you more flexibility. The Rams use the same principle in the run game. When you hear other coaches refer to the Rams' ground game as basically a number of set plays that they run out of a bunch of different sets and disguise with "window dressing", that's what the Erhardt-Perkins passing game is like. Nothing extravagant in terms of difficulty, but it can be very efficient when disguised and deployed out of multiple different sets and looks.

 

[Legatron4]

The Patriots scored 27 points with a 3rd string rookie QB. He only had 103 yards passing and Blount barely had 100 yards rushing.

Somehow, they find a way to put up a bunch of points regardless of stats or crazy trick plays. It's so frustrating.

 

[Angry Ram]

The Patriots scored 27 points with a 3rd string rookie QB. He only had 103 yards passing and Blount barely had 100 yards rushing.

Somehow, they find a way to put up a bunch of points regardless of stats or crazy trick plays. It's so frustrating.

They twice had 2 short fields b/c of ST turnovers. And of one of those was extended b/c of PI flags (one being bogus).

20 points there, and a long run by LeGarrette, which he broke out of a tackle. He was down for a little gain if any had the Texan linebacker secured the tackle.

It was a weird gameplan by Houston. They obviously knew the cheaters would take away Nuke Hopkins, but running it multiple times on 3rd and long? Can't really sustain drives that way.

Oh well.

BTW, speaking of LeGarrette Blount, if that had been any other player on any other team, would that have been flagged for excessive celebration? Best believe it.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Texans are seriously disappointing me right now

B'OB arrived with much fanfare, but that guy is an overrated coach, who benefited greatly from Belichick and circumstance. He is good with QBs. Is he good with offenses? Maybe, or he just regurgitated what he learned from Belichick and McDaniel. Funny how, when Josh McDaniel came available and was hired back to the Patriots, that Bill's contract was allowed to expire. They didn't want him back in any capacity. But, because he was New England's OC (it is really Beli hicks offense) he supposedly became a hot commodity. But, no NFL team hired him. So, he accepted the PSU job and does a pretty good job of winning with a quality team full of previously recruited players. But, anyone that watched those games usually came away scratching their heads, wondering about his offensive game planning, clock management and in game adjustments. I never understood the hype. It was one of the biggest charades in sports. 'O'Brien leads PSU to wins despite sanctions'. The thing is the team was full of good players. It want until two years later, when he left, that the scholarship reductions coupled with graduation started to take it's toll.

O'Brien was severely outclassed by his old boss tonight and I am not the least bit surprised.

 

[Angry Ram]

B'OB arrived with much fanfare, but that guy is an overrated coach, who benefited greatly from Belichick and circumstance. He is good with QBs. Is he good with offenses? Maybe, or he just regurgitated what he learned from Belichick and McDaniel. Funny how, when Josh McDaniel came available and was hired back to the Patriots, that Bill's contract was allowed to expire. They didn't want him back in any capacity. But, because he was New England's OC (it is really Beli hicks offense) he supposedly became a hot commodity. But, no NFL team hired him. So, he accepted the PSU job and does a pretty good job of winning with a quality team full of previously recruited players. But, anyone that watched those games usually came away scratching their heads, wondering about his offensive game planning, clock management and in game adjustments. I never understood the hype. It was one of the biggest charades in sports. 'O'Brien leads PSU to wins despite sanctions'. The thing is the team was full of good players. It want until two years later, when he left, that the scholarship reductions coupled with graduation started to take it's toll.

O'Brien was severely outclassed by his old boss tonight and I am not the least bit surprised.

Plus he comes across as a jerk. Reminds me of Mike Singletary.

 

[FRO]

The Patriots scored 3 offensive TDs with their 3rd string QB (looking at you Rams). They are 3-0 without Brady. I hate the patriots.

Also Houston has to have massive buyers remorse for signing Brock. I thought Bradford was stupid in the offseason by not going to Houston or Denver. Both teams would have been much better with him at QB. Houston has a really good team, but still no QB. Brock has looked poor in all 3 starts. And to think this is the team that let Fitz go for nothing after having a decent year for them.

 

[den-the-coach]

It's all scheme with the Pats.

They will not lose a game all year, unbelievable that this Coach can win under any circumstances and the Rams struggle to win even when there are premiere circumstances!

 

[Faceplant]

They will not lose a game all year, unbelievable that this Coach can win under any circumstances and the Rams struggle to win even when there are premiere circumstances!

"He can take his'n and beat your'n and take your'n and beat his'n."

 

[shaunpinney]

Its amazing how the n patriots are able to cater their offense to their qbs and still find success

Agree, in less than a week, they turn their 3rd round draft QB into winning starting QB and he doesn't look out of place at all - and seemed to have a grasp of the offense too...

 

[Ballhawk]

But what scheme is that? I'm thinking they can plug these QB's RB's and WR's in because they build the OL and DL's first? I'm just trying to figure out how they do it time and time again. Perplexing..

They are built to exploit the current rules, not the rules from the last century like Fisher still thinks they are playing under.

 

[Psycho_X]

Well at least there was another prime time embarrassment to take a little attention away from ours already. Texans looked like a joke much like we did in week 1. Osweiller got paid like a king from being on a team surrounded by Super Bowl talent. That guy hit the jackpot. I think he is an ok QB that'll win you some games but he's not anywhere as good as his salary.

Patriots just keep winning. Belicheck is the master of the over/under when it comes to every aspect of playing a NFL game. He knows what works the majority of the time and he has his team prepared every Sunday to execute it. It's not flashy really but it's efficient. One thing is for certain, they'd never get embarrassed like the Texans were or we were.