"The Wow Factor" - Real Story behind NFL to LA/Jerry Jones Merged Thread

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10 minutes in the Booties

That's where he started ... and stopped ... reading.

 

[LesBaker]

Seriously Les? The information I have - and my dad is a real estate broker that only deals in large ranches throughout the west - is that Stan was the only one of the prospective buyers that not only agreed to keep the Waggoner Ranch whole but would keep it in production as farming and cattle ranching. Unless you can find something that says different, everything I have read and heard says that he actually essentially saved one of the most famous ranches in all of the West and that the other offers were from people that needed to break up the Ranch in order to make their deals work. He has done the same in his other large Ag. purchases. He has already improved ranching production on that large Montana ranch he bought a couple years ago.

Name one even Millionaire that hasn't been sued. Hell, I had to buy out my partner and it turned nasty. The only reason it didn't end up in court was because the guy knew he didn't have a leg to stand on and he wouldn't gain enough in a suit.

The deal with Kahn? Are you telling me that if you had a right of first refusal, you would not wait until not only an offer came in but was sure to be able to close before excercising that right? That would be against anything anyone else with that option would do. That is just simple and smart. You don't exercise that right until you know the deal will can absolutely go down without falling through. I realize Bernie was making a big stink about it but Bernie is a moron and all you have to do is look at the piece he wrote telling LA fans to stop whining when the Rams moved to the Lou.

I really have to wonder which side is trying harder to "slip out of" the deal on being the second team. Looks to me like both Spanos and Davis are trying harder now than ever before to get deals done in their home cities. They lost the battle. And frankly, Spanos and Davis' pop were/are the sleaziest of A-holes. Go ahead and look up how many times Weird Al and Alex Spanos were sued. I'm guessing Mark and Dean may have as well but not sure as they pretty much got handed everything and haven't added to it.

Spanos and Davis are liked by the old guard because they know they can bend them over and they will lube up to take it. Obvioulsly the NFL voted for money. I'm not sure anyone doubts that. And if the confidence in Spanos and Davis was even close, they would have voted for Carson instead. It wasn't, so they sided with the guy they knew wouldn't fail in the LA market - unlike the smarter Davis already did several years ago.

I was talking about the deal that he backdoored Spanos on.........I don't give a rats ass about some ranch in Texas.

Also about being sued.....yeah peple get sued but he has had partners in projects sue him on a few occassions. He plays outside the lines.

As far as greenmailing Kahn it was slimy. Period. And even the STL media called him on it.

Spanos and Davis are of course trying to get thier own stadium deals, naturally. But I'll bet money if Spanos wants to move in Kroenke will do everything he can, including lie, to make sure he gets the entire market to himself.

 

[LesBaker]

Stan Kroenke is a popular name in SoCal right now.

20 years ago he took them away, now he brought them back.

We are prone to short memories and are quick to forgive, it's part of our DNA in my opinion. It's not always a good trait, and not always a bad trait, it's just a trait. Like a "gut feeling".

 

[Angry Ram]

So should Mikey resign his position, as he is the beneficiary of the horrifying action his father took, yanking the Cardinals out of St. Louis? He stood up in righteous indignation that Kroenke dare move, while he and his family surely live a privileged life BECAUSE of the actions of his father.

This is not about the charm and likability of Jerry Jones. Clearly he is not a great guy. But he called Bidwell on his hypocrisy and it seemed to ring true with the other owners. I would say that was a pretty good barometer.

It was Michael Bidwell trying to explain, and Jurrah belittled him in public. That's all I'm going for here. You can't call one owner (Jerry Richardson) a bully for his stance on keeping the Rams in STL and then bash another owner who has the same opinion as JR.

 

[MrMotes]

It was Michael Bidwell trying to explain, and Jurrah belittled him in public. That's all I'm going for here. You can't call one owner (Jerry Richardson) a bully for his stance on keeping the Rams in STL and then bash another owner who has the same opinion as JR.

It was a closed door owners only meeting where i'm guessing they speak freely. NFL owners aren't exactly a bunch of pussies prone to getting their feelings hurt. And let's face it, Jones' argument is the one that carried the day, because he was right...

 

[Angry Ram]

It was a closed door owners only meeting where i'm guessing they speak freely. NFL owners aren't exactly a bunch of pussies prone to getting their feelings hurt. And let's face it, Jones' argument is the one that carried the day, because he was right...

So if they aren't pussies, why worry about JR? Why call him a "bully?" That's what is really hypocritical.

Look, I was pro STL the whole time. I'm still fan. I just don't see how 1 owner can claim "bullying" and then do the same thing on another.

 

[MrMotes]

The ESPN story says:

But Richardon's hard-charging style offended some owners. "He bullied people," according to a team executive.

How does that make Jerry Jones a hypocrite?