The Super Bowl Window Is Open

[Steve808]

I've been a Rams fan since 1969. The Rams were powerhouses in the 70's and part of the 80's. After that, we sucked for a long time until the 1999 Rams won the Super Bowl. We win Super bowl 34 and got cheated out of Super bowl 36. After a few more good years, the Rams endured a long winter.

But the way the NFL is these days with the premium prices on quarterbacks, do teams really win with a QB at the "Max" salary? The Cheatriots have won but Brady takes less to help the team. The Sea pigeons won when Russell Wilson was at minimum wage. Same with the Eagles who had Carson Wentz at minimum wage and Foles at back up. It seems that giving your QB a "max" contract is a hindrance to paying the rest of the team.

IMHO, the Rams have 2 seasons to win a Super Bowl before Goff will demand the max salary. At that point, only really great drafts and developing players will keep the Rams on top. While I feel confident about McVay and Snead, the opportunity to take home the Lombardi is now.

I am confident that McVay will build a contender for years to come, but I would feel more reassured with another Trophy in the house before Goff commands a maximum contract.

Thoughts?

 

[wolfdogg]

Ah, yes, open up that window and really breath in that fresh air gentlemen. I love the smell of Superbowl on Sundays.

Amazing how it only took 1 year for Mcvay to tear down the brick fireplace that fisher spent 5 years building over it.

 

[tempests]

If the "Super Bowl window" truly is open, it should last more than 2 years. If it doesn't, the Rams were just a flash in the pan. They don't have a true foundation and McVay's culture change didn't take.

It's the kind of QB you have and not what you're paying him if you ask me. Peyton Manning went to four Super Bowls but in none of those years was he on his rookie contract. Colts made him the richest player in the league before he had played in one. A lot of people scoffed at the Giants making Eli Manning the highest paid QB, but three years later, he was hoisting the Lombardi again. And yes, the Pats seemed to have learned from the Drew Bledsoe mistake, but even then, they won the Super Bowl in 2001 with the league's only $100 million dollar QB, on the sideline.

 

[Corbin]

Our window is open.
I have a feeling Snead/Demoff and the Coaching staff understand these next 3 years minimum are going to be the easiest times to compete for a championship with who we currently have/future cap room/the room in 2-4 years to not be financially strapped hence acquiring these amazing pieces and not settling (ala Suh).

Suh's deal will be for 2 years hence being able to to Franchise, 5 year options on other certain players.

It doesn't affect me having to pay Gurley, Peters, or Goff because in reality we have franchise tag, 5th year rookie option,, and Demoff is good at not just giving away the farm for one player and putting in stipulations that benefits both parties.

What I wouldn't give to learn from Demoff and/or Snead. It's interesting as hell to witness the constant change and reaching out and snagging a piece of the puzzle and not being scared to. Love it.

I said this last year after the Watkins trade, we are winning or at least showing up in 2 SB's in the next 5 years. Good chance this could be one of those years in 2018.

Time for you doom and gloom bastards to wake up out your grave... enjoy it. We are about to feast.

 

[NJRamsFan]

My thoughts are: you should at least credit the person who actually came up with “your” theory.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...th-colin-cowherd/video/1192358467937?amp=true

 

[Boston Ram]

I've been a Rams fan since 1969. The Rams were powerhouses in the 70's and part of the 80's. After that, we sucked for a long time until the 1999 Rams won the Super Bowl. We win Super bowl 34 and got cheated out of Super bowl 36. After a few more good years, the Rams endured a long winter.

But the way the NFL is these days with the premium prices on quarterbacks, do teams really win with a QB at the "Max" salary? The Cheatriots have won but Brady takes less to help the team. The Sea pigeons won when Russell Wilson was at minimum wage. Same with the Eagles who had Carson Wentz at minimum wage and Foles at back up. It seems that giving your QB a "max" contract is a hindrance to paying the rest of the team.

IMHO, the Rams have 2 seasons to win a Super Bowl before Goff will demand the max salary. At that point, only really great drafts and developing players will keep the Rams on top. While I feel confident about McVay and Snead, the opportunity to take home the Lombardi is now.

I am confident that McVay will build a contender for years to come, but I would feel more reassured with another Trophy in the house before Goff commands a maximum contract.

Thoughts?

Find your next QB now. When Goff is up let him walk and start over with his replacement. Seems like the key is having the QB on his rookie deal. McVay is 2 for 2 with QBs now. Play out Goffs deal and move on to the next QB.

Outside of Brady there are no QBs going multiple SBs that are past there rookie deals and like you said Brady has always taken less money. So unless Goff will do a Brady I say let him walk.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Most Superbowl Windows only stay open for 2-4 years. Pittsburgh does it differently. They seem to pop up for 2 years, fall back for 3-4, then show back up. I'd take their formula.

New England has been pretty consistent, but Belichick has figured out how to by using scheme fits that are replaceable. It will be interesting to see what happens with Belichick, after Brady. I don't think McDaniels can duplicate Bill's success. It sounds like Belichick is moving on soon. So does he retire as the greatest coach of all time, or does he try it again, somewhere else? If he retires, then everyone will say it was because of Tom Brady. If he builds another franchise into a perennial contender, then you know it was more him.

Demoff said that they want the Rams to be run in the Patriot model and always be successful and in playoff contention. So far, they look like they will have all the same problems of roster management as every other team. I don't know if anyone will be able to repeat Belichicks success.

 

[FrantikRam]

Find your next QB now. When Goff is up let him walk and start over with his replacement. Seems like the key is having the QB on his rookie deal. McVay is 2 for 2 with QBs now. Play out Goffs deal and move on to the next QB.

Outside of Brady there are no QBs going multiple SBs that are past there rookie deals and like you said Brady has always taken less money. So unless Goff will do a Brady I say let him walk.

I'm glad somebody finally said this out loud. It is what NFL teams SHOULD do IMO.

The Rams though are in a more unique situation. Gurley will want $20 million per year. Goff will probably want $25-$28 million. Makes more sense to keep Goff and let Gurley walk, unless you let both go. Assuming Goff continues his trajectory toward being a top 10 QB.

 

[FrantikRam]

Most Superbowl Windows only stay open for 2-4 years. Pittsburgh does it differently. They seem to pop up for 2 years, fall back for 3-4, then show back up. I'd take their formula.

New England has been pretty consistent, but Belichick has figured out how to by using scheme fits that are replaceable. It will be interesting to see what happens with Belichick, after Brady. I don't think McDaniels can duplicate Bill's success. It sounds like Belichick is moving on soon. So does he retire as the greatest coach of all time, or does he try it again, somewhere else? If he retires, then everyone will say it was because of Tom Brady. If he builds another franchise into a perennial contender, then you know it was more him.

Demoff said that they want the Rams to be run in the Patriot model and always be successful and in playoff contention. So far, they look like they will have all the same problems of roster management as every other team. I don't know if anyone will be able to repeat Belichicks success.

When the Steelers had their window, and the Patriots for the past 17 years operated similarly IMO:

Find your identity, stay true to it and don't overreact during the years you don't win it all. The Patriots only constants have been Brady and Belichick. The Steelers only constant during their window was a top flight defense (Berger was there, but he was an average to below average QB during their first win).

For the Rams to truly stay competitive, we need either Goff, Gurley or our defense to emerge as either: a top 5 QB, the best run game year in and year out, or a top 5 D consistently. Currently only Gurley is even close to this. That's okay because we have all of them together.

But once they all get paid - if we pay all of them - they all need to be the best at their position or IMO we will not be getting the proper returns for our investments. Just as an example: if the OL is garbage, paying Gurley and Goff a combined $45 million per year would be pointless.

The Patriots never quite had an offensive skill player like Gurley (maybe Moss for the one year), but I don't think they would have kept him. I don't think they would keep Donald either - not at the price he will ask for.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Find your next QB now. When Goff is up let him walk and start over with his replacement. Seems like the key is having the QB on his rookie deal. McVay is 2 for 2 with QBs now. Play out Goffs deal and move on to the next QB.

Outside of Brady there are no QBs going multiple SBs that are past there rookie deals and like you said Brady has always taken less money. So unless Goff will do a Brady I say let him walk.

Goff isn't going anywhere. The number 1 rule in the nfl is once you find your franchise qb never let him go.

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[NJRamsFan]

Find your next QB now. When Goff is up let him walk and start over with his replacement. Seems like the key is having the QB on his rookie deal. McVay is 2 for 2 with QBs now. Play out Goffs deal and move on to the next QB.

Outside of Brady there are no QBs going multiple SBs that are past there rookie deals and like you said Brady has always taken less money. So unless Goff will do a Brady I say let him walk.

Continuously drafting late round qb studs isn’t really a strategy and you can’t possibly think it’s sustainable. That’s like saying why don’t we just draft all pro bowlers. The whole find replacement now implies we won’t be picking in the top 5, it’s extrememly hard to hit on a qb in general let alone hit on a late round guy ...

 

[NJRamsFan]

Goff isn't going anywhere. The number 1 rule in the nfl is once you find your franchise qb never let him go.

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Finally some sense in here lol...the whole “strategy” behind this is going all in for a small window when you find yourself in this scenario. Not trying to replicate it over and over by dumping your proven nfl qbs lol

 

[Boston Ram]

I'm glad somebody finally said this out loud. It is what NFL teams SHOULD do IMO.

The Rams though are in a more unique situation. Gurley will want $20 million per year. Goff will probably want $25-$28 million. Makes more sense to keep Goff and let Gurley walk, unless you let both go. Assuming Goff continues his trajectory toward being a top 10 QB.

QB salaries are so out of control that they are killing caps. As important as they are they are still not 30m a year players. Manning is called the greatest QB of all time and won 1 SB in his prime, because his team could never sign defensive players. He piggy backed Denver to his 2nd. Point is if even the greatest QB can only win 1 then is it really worth the investment?

 

[kurtfaulk]

QB salaries are so out of control that they are killing caps. As important as they are they are still not 30m a year players. Manning is called the greatest QB of all time and won 1 SB in his prime, because his team could never sign defensive players. He piggy backed Denver to his 2nd. Point is if even the greatest QB can only win 1 then is it really worth the investment?

Do you remember what the colts and Broncos were like before manning joined their teams? It wasn't pretty.

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[Boston Ram]

Continuously drafting late round qb studs isn’t really a strategy and you can’t possibly think it’s sustainable. That’s like saying why don’t we just draft all pro bowlers. The whole find replacement now implies we won’t be picking in the top 5, it’s extrememly hard to hit on a qb in general let alone hit on a late round guy ...

Who said late round? Mannion was a 3rd, cousins a 3rd, Garoppolo a 2nd.

I get it sounds crazy to want to replace a QB every 5 years. But how many SBs since their rookie deals have Rodgers, Brees, Newton, Wilson, Ryan, Rivers, Palmer, Ben, or pick whoever you want to justify the argument.

Take a look around the league it’s littered with good young QBs. Half the leauge has good starting caliber QBs. It’s not as hard to find QBs as it used to be. Seriously look at them. There are some pretty good ones.

 

[Faceplant]

Trust the system. Good coaching and scheme are they key. Of course you need players, but I think a good staff can get more from less. Honestly, I wouldn't be upset if the Rams drafted a system QB every five years as long as they keep winning.

 

[Boston Ram]

Do you remember what the colts and Broncos were like before manning joined their teams? It wasn't pretty.

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What’s the goal? Pretty or championship?

 

[Boston Ram]

Finally some sense in here lol...the whole “strategy” behind this is going all in for a small window when you find yourself in this scenario. Not trying to replicate it over and over by dumping your proven nfl qbs lol

And for the record, I’m not saying I would do it the way I mentioned. But it would also be shortsighted not to think about it too. Have some kind of contingency plan.

 

[kurtfaulk]

What’s the goal? Pretty or championship?

The colts went to the superbowl twice and the Broncos went to the superbowl twice. The colts would have went to more but the cheats dbs were allowed to hold the colts receivers with no thoughts of getting a flag in the conference championship games. I'd say manning made a huge difference to every team he played for in the league.

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[Boston Ram]

The colts went to the superbowl twice and the Broncos went to the superbowl twice. The colts would have went to more but the cheats dbs were allowed to hold the colts receivers with no thoughts of getting a flag in the conference championship games. I'd say manning made a huge difference to every team he played for in the league.

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Not a huge difference for Denver. I agree he was great. That was not my point. 2 SBs and one championship for the greatest?! Is QB really that important? That’s my point