The Rams Offense Looking Forward

[WestCoastRam]

Oline and Puka health (in that order), Stafford's arm strength (stable or decline) and Adams (he could be electric or above average at X) will determine how our offense does this year, I think.

RB and TE's will be less important (but still useful) to our success.

 

[PhillyRam]

Oline and Puka health (in that order), Stafford's arm strength (stable or decline) and Adams (he could be electric or above average at X) will determine how our offense does this year, I think.

RB and TE's will be less important (but still useful) to our success.

I will just say the OL & the run game. If that is clicking on all cylinders, then Stafford could win with Atwell, Whittington, and Ferguson/Higbee.

 

[TexasRam]

1.Oline
2. No big play threats

We are a methodical offense. At this point there is no big play at quarterback, receiver, tight end, or running back.

The depth at Offensive line is not good right now.

 

[Merlin]

Thinking over the weapons in particular...

McVay's offense has always depended on the slot. Reed was the key in Washington, Kupp in LA. When Kupp was out or returned from injury in lesser form it was never the same.

Now maybe Nacua can = Kupp. Also there is Tutu, Whit, Allen and Fergy. So there is definitely some unknown at work.

I agree this offense won't be a 30ppg unit. But can they be on a roll going into the playoffs with a diverse set of threats. That should be possible.

We need one or preferably two of those to step up this year. And if the defense is hot then watch out.

 

[gogoat1]

Lack of elite talent at all skill positions.

OL continuity.

Lack of scheme diversity.

All of these things have put a tremendous amount of emphasis on Stafford’s arm and protections to elevate the offense. Too much IMO.

An all-world RB or pass catcher could do wonders for the offense. They added neither, and Adams will likely just fill up the production hole left with no Kupp.

I see another season of good offense but not special. Not 30+ppg special. Not a quick strike offense.

Stafford is elite. So is Puka.

 

[So Ram]

1.Oline
2. No big play threats

We are a methodical offense. At this point there is no big play at quarterback, receiver, tight end, or running back.

The depth at Offensive line is not good right now.

LMFAO - sure OK , WOW - IMO your not paying attention.

Out of all that,I’ll say The Rams depth at tackle is weak.

 

[So Ram]

I will just say the OL & the run game. If that is clicking on all cylinders, then Stafford could win with Atwell, Whittington, and Ferguson/Higbee.

Weird seeing Fergusons name.

He is going to have to prove something to me IMO The Rams only mistake in the draft was not trading back up for Mason Taylor.Can’t say I saw the Jets drafting him.Then memory hit.
There is a connection.

Seeing Mason vs Ferguson just as a specimen of Man along with pedigree. My hope is The Rams prove me wrong.

 

[So Ram]

It does seem to be bugging the shit out of McVay too. I suspect we’re going to see a significant change this season.

Well said

 

[So Ram]

No question the OL over the last several years has a lot to do with Rams PPG and Stafford's decline'
Whitworth at LT and Sullivan at C that 1st year for Staford was elite. Injuries and less capable players on the OL the following years led to the decline.
This year they brought back Coleman Shelton to start at Center, presumably because he's much better at making line calls. But what about his ability to actually block?
I'm no coach, but I' ve watched his play over the past few years, and at Chicago too, and Shelton is a turnstile. Bears fans couldn't wait to get rid of him.
Oh well, we'll soon find out. An early injury to Staford will surly make a playoff run much harder.
I'll bet every ROD $$ Limmer ends up starting at C because of Shelto'ns poor play

LOL - we’ve been to training camps & have posted for a while.I’ve had a couple poster on here.Dave is a guy I miss,because he was The MOST POSITIVE poster around.He missed this Mcvay era as well.
I take it you remember the Jeff Fisher days.

I go back to my first thread I ever started here.It was about The Big 5. I can go back to different time & places.What I will say is John Sullivans last game as a RAM SUCKED & everything about it.I saw the BOND of Jared Goff,John Sullivan & Andrew Whitworth.

Big Rob was apart of The Big 5 & has kept the tradition.Big Rob & J. Brown were 2nd year guys & Roger Saffold was LOST !!

I miss Bonify’d he was a GREAT poster.To me though having Coleman Shelton back is like bringing back The Spirit of John Sullivan.You know a lot of people don’t give Austin Blythe as a Ram CREDIT!!

I drink The KOOL-AIDE - Sometimes to much,but don’t think I talk madness. Last year THE WORST moves By THE RAMS were not signing Whiterspoon to a multi-year or even giving him a FREAKING contract.

Then not signing Coleman Shelton to a multi year a couple years back.If you don’t think The RAMS F’d up there from 2023 to 2024 ?

If you or anyone else hasn’t seen what MCVAY has done with player personnel each season??? I have to question a lot of his moves & The List goes ON !!!

What I’ll say Right Now is IMO The Rams got it right,and Bubba Ram don’t be a Hater.I think you have it right that Beaux Limmer will start.

Can’t wait for your training camp reports & see how that is playing out. This preseason can you even give us a prediction of what The starting line up will be ?? I can’t right now.
AJ is back after 3 years,got a start at LT against the Chiefs.Think how messed up that was.Bruss was a Sean Mcvay pool jumping BUST !!
Wasn’t Les Snead locked in his garage(Durant,Kyren,Lake,Kendrick)?? Then who was The TUTU guy ? Mcvay or Snead ?? We can go down the negative,but 3 big time Rams are right there.

 

[So Ram]

The Rams finished 2024 averaging 21.6 PPG. When looking at the last 8yrs, our points per game trend shows a decline.

Compared to the NFL average, we haven’t been elite the last few years.

Data below.

I think Adams and Ferguson will be excellent additions. I also like the potential of 12 personnel as a “shake up” to the offense.

Sean McVay’s offense has infiltrated the league from coaching turnover. That’s certainly not helped.

We don’t have a stud like Gurley at RB as we did in 2017 and 2018.

In recent seasons, Kupp declined and there have been injuries.

Is Stafford in decline? I don’t think so, but with data like this everything is on the table.

Have we done enough to beef up our offense? Our Superbowl aspirations depend on it!

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2017: 29.9 PPG
2018: 32.9 PPG
2019: 24.6 PPG
2020: 23.3 PPG
2021: 27.1 PPG
2022: 18.1 PPG
2023: 23.8 PPG
2024: 21.6 PPG

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View: https://x.com/ramsfanatic81/status/1924070421340516362?s=61&t=lgp1gRmUcyNSF5v7CIHwMg

The BEST thing about Stafford & The Rams they stay True to themselves & always try to make The Rams better.

The Rams & Mcvay think TEAM 1st.What I LOVE about The RAms NOW is there staying in the moment.

Stetson & Jimmy G a long with Stafford is a nice QB room,plus the price is right.

IMO Mcvay list his way,but it’s also on the players.I see the(a) vision.In 2025.3rd year OC as well.

 

[So Ram]

Lack of elite talent at all skill positions.

OL continuity.

Lack of scheme diversity.

All of these things have put a tremendous amount of emphasis on Stafford’s arm and protections to elevate the offense. Too much IMO.

An all-world RB or pass catcher could do wonders for the offense. They added neither, and Adams will likely just fill up the production hole left with no Kupp.

I see another season of good offense but not special. Not 30+ppg special. Not a quick strike offense.

I agree last season The Rams lost there way.We can go back & nit pick.
I wanted Mason Taylor instead of Ferguson but he should bring in a different element Us Ram Fan have yet to see.

Hunter is going to surprise & the Beauty is Kyren is all IN !! Gurley was a ME guy.L believe Jalen Ramsey is the same type & hope is isn’t a RAM again.

Davonte Adams is going to be a TREAT!! Don’t know what you think about Rogers vs Matthew ???

Mcvay imo was lost last season early.The O’Line was never right until late. DON’T underestimate The Signing of ALARIC JACKSON!!

 

[Ramrasta]

Maybe by no longer starting with an empty backfield when we have 1st and goal...

This is a plus play call if you have a dual threat QB. Redzone defenses are most often in man coverage. If you split everyone out wide, you are forcing the defense to defend the width of the shortened field and you can choose your matchup. They likely have one inside linebacker assigned to spy the QB if he runs but he has to navigate traffic to stay in step with the QB. The coverage players will be slow to react to a QB run while playing man coverage and the linebacker can easily be caught navigating bodies in the middle of the field.

Unfortunately, I dont think many teams need to account for Stafford as a runner.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Wow, lots of doom and gloom here.

Wasn’t this the team that was 13 seconds from being in the Supwr Bowl? A Super Bowl they likely could have won?

The Oline will play better next year with a better Center leading the team.

Receiving play will be better with Adams replacing Kupp. Whittington will be in his second season. Higbee will be back. It was obvious how much he was missed all season. Parkinson will be in his second year.

They added a home run threat to the RB rotation, plus Corum should improve in his second season.

Of course a lot hinges on health, but that applies to every team in the league.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Stafford is elite. So is Puka.

When I say “lack of elite skill guys” I’m referring everyone surrounding Stafford. I agree he’s elite.

It could be argued Puka is elite. Let’s say he is. It would explain why Stafford zeroed in on him so much, and why he zeroed in on Kupp when he was the only elite guy.

That’s one guy. RB’s have been poor to decent. TE’s have been either injured or just guys and the WR’s have been middling role guys. Rams are lacking in elite weapons and have been for awhile now.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Wow, lots of doom and gloom here.

Wasn’t this the team that was 13 seconds from being in the Supwr Bowl? A Super Bowl they likely could have won?

The Oline will play better next year with a better Center leading the team.

Receiving play will be better with Adams replacing Kupp. Whittington will be in his second season. Higbee will be back. It was obvious how much he was missed all season. Parkinson will be in his second year.

They added a home run threat to the RB rotation, plus Corum should improve in his second season.

Of course a lot hinges on health, but that applies to every team in the league.

I just feel like McVay(especially) and Stafford are THAT good.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

When I say “lack of elite skill guys” I’m referring everyone surrounding Stafford. I agree he’s elite.

It could be argued Puka is elite. Let’s say he is. It would explain why Stafford zeroed in on him so much, and why he zeroed in on Kupp when he was the only elite guy.

That’s one guy. RB’s have been poor to decent. TE’s have been either injured or just guys and the WR’s have been middling role guys. Rams are lacking in elite weapons and have been for awhile now.

RB has been poor to decent? Are you kidding? Kyren would have had more yards than CMC in 2023 if he wasn’t injured. He’s a top RB in this league. At the least he’s a very good runningback.

 

[dieterbrock]

Staff's TD production may have gone down, some if which due to the improvement of the Red Zone offense and rushing of Kyren Williams. After Gurley, the most TD any RB scored was 7, Kyren piled up 26 rushing TD in '23/'24.

 

[snackdaddy]

It seems to me McVay becomes more conservative when playing with a lead in the second half. We can't say he chokes away leads like Shanahan because his record when leading at the half is terrific. But it could be part of the reason for a decline in Stafford's TD passing. A big reason to me is what Dieter mentioned. Kyren scores a lot of rushing TD's. Basically trading passing TD's for rushing TD's. We might see an increase this year if the line cans stay relatively healthy. Plus, the defense might be giving them more possessions.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]