He must have read your entire post because he made sure to prove he wasn't too old or burdened by 'hard miles' to put up a stellar game. I would think the odds on DraftKings might read something like this........Not gonna let that kid take over any time soon.
The next four games and our future at QB
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And nobody is happier about his play than I am. I didn't like that first half INT where he misread the safety, but I do accept he's gonna be the gunslinger he is at times. Also I hope this continues through this brutal stretch of games ahead. Seemed like the second half everyone on offense settled into the scheme and it looked right.
Denver right now is in a rough spot, a playoff team with a lot of pride who will be at home and needs to win to keep pace with their division. I think we're a better roster so I like our chances, but the game they dropped was in KC, which two games in I have to say KC looks like their old selves with the defense and run game plus Mahomey. So make no mistake this is a playoff level matchup. Hopefully our defense shuts their underpowered QB down, and we can't allow their shitty run game to get going in that one either.
Long as 9 keeps rolling I think we're gonna be ok. The version of Stafford who plays with his balls hanging out is who we need. And maybe be a little safer with the ball.
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This feels like the message board version of tourette syndrome.
He didn't "misread the safety". He threw it despite the position of the safety. Like you said, he's a gunslinger. I don't always mind arm punts like that, except like in this case, it was on second down. Of course, if the WR comes down with it, it's a great decision.
But beyond all that, it was a win in the first of the "next 4 games".
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Sounds like splitting hairs to me. He made the call that he could get that ball there before the safety but it was closed back there so it was a bad decision. Yes I accept that gunslinger mentality, it's part of who he is. But in terms of that decision it was bad considering we were up big and gave the opponent opportunity and momentum.He didn't "misread the safety". He threw it despite the position of the safety. Like you said, he's a gunslinger. I don't always mind arm punts like that, except like in this case, it was on second down. Of course, if the WR comes down with it, it's a great decision.
Good teams will punish us for shit like that. Giants couldn't because their young QB went down, that and our defense was playing lights out. I do think our defense playing at an elite level is ideal for Stafford given the way he'll put up a stupid or overly risky throw here and there. But we'll see how they do as we go through these tougher games.
Discipline by 9 is gonna be needed in these games.
That's what he does......arm punts from time to time. I don't see it as a misread, I see it as "go get it big boy, fight for that MF"!!!
And yes, depending on when he does it and whom he does it against, determines whether it's costly or not. Against the Giants, in that game, I never had a thought it was going to cost us. Against a Seattle or Buffalo or San Fran? Sure, more likely to hurt there.
Stafford is still Stafford. His arm is strong and he still has the zip. No doubt he's not as mobile. "Old" is not the word for him...he's older.
Now...take a look at Rodgers...that's old. Stafford's no where near that right now.
On the pick...my take is he was simply giving Adams the chance to win out...but Adams couldn't get to where he could jump...BUT...that was not the time to take that shot...it was a bad choice being up 14-3.
Stafford is a gunslinger but a very smart one. My worry is not Stafford...my worry is McVay...and that's because McVay can get "Martz-itus" in the passing game. He likes to get chunks of yardage and sometimes he's down right greedy.
Looking at Denver, Philly, and Buffalo, who are all playoff teams with decent defenses McVay cannot get "pass happy". Now...I'm not sure how much authority Stafford has in changing plays at the LOS...and that being the case, as I said I worry about McVay more than Stafford!!!
I see Denver as the toughest of them...followed by Buffalo and Philly
Lastly...EVERY ONE OF THESE GAMES THE RAMS CAN WIN...and if they do, they're all the better for it!!!
Now...take a look at Rodgers...that's old. Stafford's no where near that right now.
On the pick...my take is he was simply giving Adams the chance to win out...but Adams couldn't get to where he could jump...BUT...that was not the time to take that shot...it was a bad choice being up 14-3.
Stafford is a gunslinger but a very smart one. My worry is not Stafford...my worry is McVay...and that's because McVay can get "Martz-itus" in the passing game. He likes to get chunks of yardage and sometimes he's down right greedy.
Looking at Denver, Philly, and Buffalo, who are all playoff teams with decent defenses McVay cannot get "pass happy". Now...I'm not sure how much authority Stafford has in changing plays at the LOS...and that being the case, as I said I worry about McVay more than Stafford!!!
I see Denver as the toughest of them...followed by Buffalo and Philly
Lastly...EVERY ONE OF THESE GAMES THE RAMS CAN WIN...and if they do, they're all the better for it!!!
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Stafford shrugged off the sluggish, tired and out-of-sync look in Australia in the game against the Giants.
As a 38-year-old pocket passer, he needs good protection and a balanced offense to give him time to throw. The Rams used a variety of pass protection schemes against the Giants that gave him time to throw. He made the adjustments at the LOS too. He looked fresher and focused against the Giants. The stats don't lie: 300+ yards, 4 TDs, and 1 INT in a Rams win.
The reports of Matthew Stafford's demise have been greatly exaggerated.
As a 38-year-old pocket passer, he needs good protection and a balanced offense to give him time to throw. The Rams used a variety of pass protection schemes against the Giants that gave him time to throw. He made the adjustments at the LOS too. He looked fresher and focused against the Giants. The stats don't lie: 300+ yards, 4 TDs, and 1 INT in a Rams win.
The reports of Matthew Stafford's demise have been greatly exaggerated.
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I think Merlin is right and Stafford misread the safety. Adams is on the left side of the formation is going to try to widen the CB then run up the numbers. Stafford's ball placement would be perfect for a vertical route where he thinks Adams has gotten over the top of the CB. The WR from the right side of the field is running a dig route over the middle. QB's eyes go from the right side, to the S in the middle, then to Adams, then back to the dig WR and simultaneous with that WR making his break (he slips in the break) QB's hands separate. In other words, it looks to me like Stafford is trying to get the middle field S to jump forward and bite on the dig route so that he can't help the CB vs Adams.
The part I don't understand is why Stafford fails to see that his trick doesn't work and he still throws it to Adams. I don't think he's intentionally throwing it into double coverage. There is zero reason to do this, because it was a 2nd down play. There are some situations where based on field position you might chuck it deep on 3rd down, thinking that if the defense gets a pick it likely would be the same as a punt, but this isn't one of those situations. The ball is too deep in Rams territory. If you wanted to throw a jump ball, you'd intentionally underthrow the pass and bring the WR slightly towards the middle of the field so that Adams could use his body to block out the DBs like a basketball player; you wouldn't throw the WR into the DBs. IMO, this is why Adams reacts to the pass so awkwardly. He knows the S has capped the route, so when he turns around he's surprised by the ball location. He's not expecting the pass to be thrown over his outside shoulder. He knows that if a pass is coming it should be to his inside shoulder.
A strange play, but maybe Stafford or McVay saw something on tape preparing for the game or earlier in the game and thought that they could trick the Giants and instead it backfired. Since we were ahead 14-0, this was likely a "go for the jugular" designed shot play that the Rams thought would result in a TD that would all but finish off the Giants before halftime. IMO, the score, field position and down/distance doesn't fit a scenario where Stafford is just throwing it up for grabs into double coverage on purpose.
The part I don't understand is why Stafford fails to see that his trick doesn't work and he still throws it to Adams. I don't think he's intentionally throwing it into double coverage. There is zero reason to do this, because it was a 2nd down play. There are some situations where based on field position you might chuck it deep on 3rd down, thinking that if the defense gets a pick it likely would be the same as a punt, but this isn't one of those situations. The ball is too deep in Rams territory. If you wanted to throw a jump ball, you'd intentionally underthrow the pass and bring the WR slightly towards the middle of the field so that Adams could use his body to block out the DBs like a basketball player; you wouldn't throw the WR into the DBs. IMO, this is why Adams reacts to the pass so awkwardly. He knows the S has capped the route, so when he turns around he's surprised by the ball location. He's not expecting the pass to be thrown over his outside shoulder. He knows that if a pass is coming it should be to his inside shoulder.
A strange play, but maybe Stafford or McVay saw something on tape preparing for the game or earlier in the game and thought that they could trick the Giants and instead it backfired. Since we were ahead 14-0, this was likely a "go for the jugular" designed shot play that the Rams thought would result in a TD that would all but finish off the Giants before halftime. IMO, the score, field position and down/distance doesn't fit a scenario where Stafford is just throwing it up for grabs into double coverage on purpose.