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Schwab's take on that video is fine. The replies are funny of course and over the top, as to be expected. But nothing he says is questionable in any way, shape, or form.
The next four games and our future at QB
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We need an "LOL, my bad" thread where we can track all of the different takes and revisit them. This is way too much panic following a game on the other side of the world where the entire team got manhandled.
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Maybe so. I don't ever watch him. Certainly don't read Yahoo. But there was nothing wrong with anything he said in that vid.
And if you are a long time Ram fan screaming the sky is falling expect some serious harassment. I’ll give a pass to anyone who’s only been a fan since 2017.
What he said is just stating the obvious. Basically, every team in the NFL is in trouble if their QB plays like trash. People need to have some guts instead of talking about hypotheticals and "ifs". If they don't believe in the Rams and Stafford, then declare it and say that Stafford is over the hill and the Rams won't make the playoffs. Otherwise, it is just C-3PO talk, telling us stuff we already know.
The Raiders and Rich Gannon struggled in 2003, largely because their team turned on their own coach and stopped playing hard. For this comparison to apply to the Rams, McVay would have to be traded to let's say the Houston Texans, then beat the Rams in the SB, causing the team to have an internal meltdown. Gannon then suffered a serious injury to his throwing shoulder in the middle of that season, ending his year. Gannon had a decent start to 2004, then broke a vertebra in his neck, ending his career. So, I don't really follow the comparison. If Stafford suffers a career ending injury or season ending injury in the next game, then yes, the Rams could be in deep trouble. If he doesn't, then... what exactly are we saying?
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All football conversation's the obvious. We're not talking about brain surgery here.
Offseason??
Merlin has GONE off the DEEP END!!
ROD’sters need to keep him away from any Cliffs. Seems like the typical Rams Fans I remember in the 90’s where you couldn’t even watch a game in LA when they moved because they weren’t Top 5
Game on Sundays.
UGH - this niners team and organization is going back to there grass roots.I’m afraid there getting all there players back from the past,like Buckner from the Colts.
I’d like it more if they got Jimmy G back if we’re talking QB’s ??
Yeah - tough game for The Rams.The Rams had an excellent SECOND DRIVE !!! Staffords throws were off most game.
Have to LMFAO that Merlin would even go there !! SUPER SAD !!!
Then I think about THE RAMS HISTORY & there GREATS !!!
WTF - AD99 has come out of RETIREMENT for MERLIN to disrespect too RAM HOF’s ???
OBVIOUSLY from YOU & this POST!!
You’re talking a WHOLE SYSTEM CHANGE!! Next your going to say The RAMS are going to FIRE SEAN MCVAY !!
LMFAO — we’re talking JOKE !!
I was thinking about this too, but IMO it won't be based on the next four games. Here's what I think would be possible:
If the Rams start 1-4 or 0-5 ONLY (if we're 2-3, this IMO isn't even a convo because of the way the schedule broke): McVay calls up KOC and says "between us, if we don't turn this around by the deadline, we may want to move Stafford"
My logic: this would be doing right by Stafford, because he came back to win, while also getting us some picks (my gut says 2nd and 3rd or something like that).
I think Minnesota is the perfect (and probably only) trade partner that we would consider. They have a ready made roster and, if Stafford commits to playing next year as well, that is a real contender in 2027. Even if its just for this year, that's a no brainer for Minnesota because they have the pieces aside from QB.
But - we also have to remember, we went from 1-4 a few years ago to winning the division. In fact, we started 0-2 that year with a horrific loss to the Cardinals in week two, then 1-4, then won the division, won a playoff game and were 13 yards from knocking out that stacked Eagles team.
That's why I don't think we make a decision even if we're 1-4. After these five games, thing lighten up considerably with Cardinals, @Raiders, Chargers, @Commodes and @Cardinals. While the Cardinals and Raiders both won, those still are not comparable teams to the Eagles or Bills.
The trade deadline is after the Commodes game. If we are 3-6 I think we consider it, but if we're 4-5 with the Cardinals coming up, that's a no.
The unique aspect of this situation is, as much as McVay loves Stafford, what I don't think people fully realize here is if we can move him to recoup some of our draft capital, all of a sudden we have a metric ton of cap space and can re-sign most of our guys AND we have close to a full complement of draft capital to restock. It goes from "the Rams went all in" to "the Rams have gifted Simpson with the best roster (sans QB) in the league, full of young talent".
If the Rams start 1-4 or 0-5 ONLY (if we're 2-3, this IMO isn't even a convo because of the way the schedule broke): McVay calls up KOC and says "between us, if we don't turn this around by the deadline, we may want to move Stafford"
My logic: this would be doing right by Stafford, because he came back to win, while also getting us some picks (my gut says 2nd and 3rd or something like that).
I think Minnesota is the perfect (and probably only) trade partner that we would consider. They have a ready made roster and, if Stafford commits to playing next year as well, that is a real contender in 2027. Even if its just for this year, that's a no brainer for Minnesota because they have the pieces aside from QB.
But - we also have to remember, we went from 1-4 a few years ago to winning the division. In fact, we started 0-2 that year with a horrific loss to the Cardinals in week two, then 1-4, then won the division, won a playoff game and were 13 yards from knocking out that stacked Eagles team.
That's why I don't think we make a decision even if we're 1-4. After these five games, thing lighten up considerably with Cardinals, @Raiders, Chargers, @Commodes and @Cardinals. While the Cardinals and Raiders both won, those still are not comparable teams to the Eagles or Bills.
The trade deadline is after the Commodes game. If we are 3-6 I think we consider it, but if we're 4-5 with the Cardinals coming up, that's a no.
The unique aspect of this situation is, as much as McVay loves Stafford, what I don't think people fully realize here is if we can move him to recoup some of our draft capital, all of a sudden we have a metric ton of cap space and can re-sign most of our guys AND we have close to a full complement of draft capital to restock. It goes from "the Rams went all in" to "the Rams have gifted Simpson with the best roster (sans QB) in the league, full of young talent".
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Yeah Minnesota would undoubtedly be in the mix for his services.
Obviously the best option is Stafford throws the switch and gets back in that top form. When he's on form he's as good as it gets. But if not then yeah shit may get ugly and they might try to flip him elsewhere. I just know McVay will lose his shit if we don't do well in this next stretch of games, he's not a patient man with his QB position as it's an extension of him.
Protections are probably the biggest factor too. If the OL plays like it did game one I don't think Stafford has the vigor to overcome that. But they should improve as we go forward, problem is the quality of these opponents it may not matter. And from there the kid offers mobility and young legs, which are going to be attractive in that equation.
It's not like I want to see the Simpson era start now. I'd rather get another year or two of Stafford playing like he did last season and let the kid cook on the pine. But the Rams are not the organization you can coast to the career finish line as the QB1. And this early schedule is fucking brutal.
I think you vastly underestimate McVay's opinion of and loyalty to Stafford. It'll take a downright shit show for him to ever bench him during the season. Like mathematically eliminated from playoffs before Thanksgiving kind of shit show and even then I'd be surprised. 1-4 or 2-3 isn't going to cause anything to happen to Stafford. Now if the season is a disaster as a whole for him than I would never be surprised at McSnead pulling the plug on anyone and moving on in the offseason. But this conversation is waaaaaaaaaaay too early to be having. Come back around Halloween.
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We had that shit show in 2022. It wasn't all Stafford's fault, but he didn't play well on top of all the injuries and BS.
After that we had two consecutive seasons of Stafford and the Rams front office being at odds on contract. And during the 2025 offseason he and McVay had to clear the room to get a deal done.
Since that magical title season we have come up short in the playoffs and have not advanced past the NFC Championship game.
By the way I agree it is possible I am underestimating McVay's opinion of and loyalty to Stafford. But I also think he went out of his way to go get a young QB who fit his offense during this last draft for a reason. And he is clearly willing to sit that young QB while Stafford plays as long as he wants. Provided Stafford is playing well.
He was really bad vs SF. Just one game, so you may be right also that this conversation is waaaaaaay too early. But my instincts are telling me this stretch is crucial in that regard, so I shared my thoughts. And hopefully I am wrong. Believe me I'll be very happy to have Stafford kick ass, lead us to a 4-1 record, and I get to endure BS from you boys over it. Rams winning is always my priority.
Went to see a Monday night game vs the raiders at the Oakland coliseum. Saw it first hand. Manning could not get the ball downfield without a running start and still had to shot putt the ball.
Ironically, that’s what kept the raiders in the game for a while—they were getting burned deep but Manning could not get it there with any velocity. Basically, it just floated while the defender closed. We left saying he (Manning) was cooked.
So yes, it is possible that Stafford could suddenly hit the wall. No way to tell after one game though, because the entire team looked bad. I don’t believe this Rams roster is that bad. Let’s see who shows up Monday night.
I think the contract was just your average talks and there wasn't anyone at odds about it but could be wrong being I wasn't in the rooms when talks were happening. And falling short last two years in playoffs has never been Stafford's fault. Fumbles, special teams, Limmer not blocking Carter, and some shit luck on a few things were main reasons. My gut feeling is McVay will go down with the Stafford ship this season if it comes to that (which I don't think it will) before he pulls him for anyone and then adjust in offseason.
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When McVay had to clear the room to come to an understanding with his QB1, I would say that is not "just your average talks." But yes none of us really know what the status of the relationship is, or what Coach is thinking here. So anything's possible.
But one thing's for sure... Stafford needs to kick some ass in these games ahead.