The Jets game

[Elmgrovegnome]

I am sorry for revisiting this game, but I was just thinking about how big of a blunder that game was. If there ever was an inopportune game for the defense to not play up to their ability, it was that one. Win that and this is a relaxed game ahead and injured players are not a big deal. Technically McVay could have rested starters last week also. Maybe he would have been fighting for first but maybe he'd have thought that two weeks off for some key starters could rejuvenate them for the playoffs and be too valuable to pass up. That game has become so pivotal for the rest of the season.

 

[Merlin]

Yeah I didn't even review it. Couldn't get myself to open it up.

We're basically at the point where it's the same issues that we've had on offense from last year. Cooks wasn't himself last year and we still haven't replaced him to date. Gurley same. Akers was starting to make things really click then of course injured. Both Hendy and Brown did the same shit in the last game that they did in 2019 in fact, neither being able to take advantage of opportunity.

And the OL. I mean it's the same shit from Blythe. He made sure to make us eat crow early this season then returns to his real self we expected prior to the season. Boom same thing, I value the guy being able to be a backup LT but just as many of us expected his strength is terrible and is going to keep him at the backup level.

And the TEs. They're all over the map tbh. Neither of them really separate, both are the type you scheme open. Both of them can run block but the inconsistency is disappointing to me.

McVay is his own worst enemy. He gets so much from his team that sometimes you can delude yourself into thinking they're better than they are. This was always a rebuild season. The offense moved on from two high quality players and guess what it's a bit of a mess. Hopefully they can at least finish strong though and show us some fucking fight.

 

[jrry32]

Yeah I didn't even review it. Couldn't get myself to open it up.

We're basically at the point where it's the same issues that we've had on offense from last year. Cooks wasn't himself last year and we still haven't replaced him to date. Gurley same. Akers was starting to make things really click then of course injured. Both Hendy and Brown did the same shit in the last game that they did in 2019 in fact, neither being able to take advantage of opportunity.

And the OL. I mean it's the same shit from Blythe. He made sure to make us eat crow early this season then returns to his real self we expected prior to the season. Boom same thing, I value the guy being able to be a backup LT but just as many of us expected his strength is terrible and is going to keep him at the backup level.

And the TEs. They're all over the map tbh. Neither of them really separate, both are the type you scheme open. Both of them can run block but the inconsistency is disappointing to me.

McVay is his own worst enemy. He gets so much from his team that sometimes you can delude yourself into thinking they're better than they are. This was always a rebuild season. The offense moved on from two high quality players and guess what it's a bit of a mess. Hopefully they can at least finish strong though and show us some fucking fight.

I know that feeling. That game just devastated me. I really couldn't believe it. The Gators blew a game they should have won against a pretty bad LSU team, and the very next week, the Rams deliver an even harder kick in the balls by losing to the Jets.

I don't know what it is with Van Jefferson that has McVay preferring Reynolds so strongly. But I really hope we get to see Van too. Reynolds doesn't separate consistently enough. Van is a lot quicker and a much better route runner. Our QB (whether it's Goff or Wolford) needs a third option who can get open consistently. And it's not like Reynolds is actually stretching the field vertically. Plus, I'm fed up with his hot and cold motor.

It's also frustrating that McVay doesn't trust Hendo or Akers in the passing game. Our offense was at peak efficiency when Gurley was a major weapon out of the backfield. Brown will never be that. He's not a threat in space and lacks awareness as a route runner. Both Akers and Hendo can catch it, but I'm guessing McVay doesn't trust them with protections and the route tree at this point.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Don’t look now, but the Jets have played 3 good games in string of 4. Winning 2.

Maybe they beat the Patriots and close with a 3 game winning streak. It could happen.

Leaving JETS fans utterly confused.

 

[Loyal]

Don’t look now, but the Jets have played 3 good games in string of 4. Winning 2.

Maybe they beat the Patriots and close with a 3 game winning streak. It could happen.

Leaving JETS fans utterly confused.

SONOFA ~ Rich Eisen

 

[FrantikRam]

I think it's a mark of how good our defense is that we were disappointed that they allowed 17 points (two FGs came off an INT and blocked punt where they were already in FG range) and less than 300 yards to the Jets.

They have been the worst offense in the league which is why even I was disappointed. But it's the NFL - for as disappointing as the defense was, if we don't throw a bad INT or have a punt blocked, we win.

The Packers are looking like the team to beat right now and they beat the Jaguars, who are officially worse than the Jets, 24-20 - at home.

In 2018 we were at home against a bad Packers team and nearly lost. Every team has a game like this on their resume (Seattle losing at home to Colt McCoy and Alfred Morris in 2020) - where they barely win or lose - we all just felt this was abnormal because of the narrative that the Jets are the worst team ever, when they're clearly not - before the Packers beat the Titans, they and the Jets had the same number of wins against teams with a winning record.

But the reality is, we weren't as good as we thought - props to McVay and Staley for having this team at 9-4 - and it caught up with us. Reeder/Young probably cost us 7 points and that game clinching first down in that game, and we knew we had terrible ILBs

 

[dieterbrock]

That game just devastated me. I really couldn't believe it. The Gators blew a game they should have won against a pretty bad LSU team, and the very next week, the Rams deliver an even harder kick in the balls by losing to the Jets.

Well, me being a Notre Dame honk, I had my annual dose of evisceration by a superior team when Clemson shellacked the Irish. My only consolation was in knowing I could watch the Rams whip the Jets the next day. Oops....

 

[ottoman89]

That game reminds me of the SEA game last year, except all GZ had to do was make a pretty easy FG in hindsight and we're in.

Now this year, all we have to do was beat NYJ, or SF one damn time, and we're in.

 

[thirteen28]

This will be the game they look back on this year. All they had to do was beat an 0-13 team and they were in the playoffs. And they fucking blew it.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I know that feeling. That game just devastated me. I really couldn't believe it. The Gators blew a game they should have won against a pretty bad LSU team, and the very next week, the Rams deliver an even harder kick in the balls by losing to the Jets.

I don't know what it is with Van Jefferson that has McVay preferring Reynolds so strongly. But I really hope we get to see Van too. Reynolds doesn't separate consistently enough. Van is a lot quicker and a much better route runner. Our QB (whether it's Goff or Wolford) needs a third option who can get open consistently. And it's not like Reynolds is actually stretching the field vertically. Plus, I'm fed up with his hot and cold motor.

It's also frustrating that McVay doesn't trust Hendo or Akers in the passing game. Our offense was at peak efficiency when Gurley was a major weapon out of the backfield. Brown will never be that. He's not a threat in space and lacks awareness as a route runner. Both Akers and Hendo can catch it, but I'm guessing McVay doesn't trust them with protections and the route tree at this point.

And Reynolds is supposedly the fastest receiver they have.

I think the reason we are not seeing Van is the same reason we are not seeing runnginbacks getting many passes outside of screens. McVay knows he cannot trust the Oline. It goes back to last year when we started to see success with so many rollouts. McVay has to keep blockers in on every pass play.

I’ve been begging for Oline picks early since the Rams - Pats Super Bowl. You’d think that needing to protect the Oline and how it stifles the game plan that McVay would request upgrades from what they have. Obviously at Center and likely either a right guard or right tackle....future OLT too.
He missed an opportunity by not bringing in Callahan. He’s done a great job where ever he is. He’s got the Browns line playing well this year too.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Yeah I didn't even review it. Couldn't get myself to open it up.

We're basically at the point where it's the same issues that we've had on offense from last year. Cooks wasn't himself last year and we still haven't replaced him to date. Gurley same. Akers was starting to make things really click then of course injured. Both Hendy and Brown did the same shit in the last game that they did in 2019 in fact, neither being able to take advantage of opportunity.

And the OL. I mean it's the same shit from Blythe. He made sure to make us eat crow early this season then returns to his real self we expected prior to the season. Boom same thing, I value the guy being able to be a backup LT but just as many of us expected his strength is terrible and is going to keep him at the backup level.

And the TEs. They're all over the map tbh. Neither of them really separate, both are the type you scheme open. Both of them can run block but the inconsistency is disappointing to me.

McVay is his own worst enemy. He gets so much from his team that sometimes you can delude yourself into thinking they're better than they are. This was always a rebuild season. The offense moved on from two high quality players and guess what it's a bit of a mess. Hopefully they can at least finish strong though and show us some fucking fight.

It is almost enough to make some people realize why I picked a record with 6-8 wins. All things considered McVay has done so much more with this team than many coaches could have.

Unfortunately Runningback still appears to be a need. And how many teams are as reliant as the Rams are on their receivers blocking to make the running game go? With a better Oline and the way the receivers block this team would be leading the league in rushing. Instead it struggles to run at times despite having some of the best blocking receivers in the league.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Don’t look now, but the Jets have played 3 good games in string of 4. Winning 2.

Maybe they beat the Patriots and close with a 3 game winning streak. It could happen.

Leaving JETS fans utterly confused.

There were many major miscues by the defense in that game. And the offense has really been sputtering lately.

 

[RamsFanCK]

Yeah, this game. I swore up and down to friends and family after the pats game that this was the epitome of a trap game and If I, an armchair QB, could see it then obviously the Rams saw it. Man was I wrong. They fell right the hell into it. Such a frustrating and disappointing loss that has seemed to set 2020 spiraling out of control. One game left to rebound, but man was this a huge loss.

 

[FrantikRam]

And Reynolds is supposedly the fastest receiver they have.

I think the reason we are not seeing Van is the same reason we are not seeing runnginbacks getting many passes outside of screens. McVay knows he cannot trust the Oline. It goes back to last year when we started to see success with so many rollouts. McVay has to keep blockers in on every pass play.

I’ve been begging for Oline picks early since the Rams - Pats Super Bowl. You’d think that needing to protect the Oline and how it stifles the game plan that McVay would request upgrades from what they have. Obviously at Center and likely either a right guard or right tackle....future OLT too.
He missed an opportunity by not bringing in Callahan. He’s done a great job where ever he is. He’s got the Browns line playing well this year too.

I was thinking about the most consistent team in the NFC, the Saints.

In the past four drafts they've picked OL in the first round twice and the second round once.

It's hard to say Cooks was a mistake because we made the Super Bowl, but I do think trading for Watkins/Peters/Cooks/Ramsey as opposed to loading up on the OL set the team back.

The truth is, Goff has had more time to pass than several QBs that are way outperforming him, and our run game has been pretty good - so it's not, IMO, that the OL is "bad" - it's that it's average-below average, and Goff needs it to be excellent.

McVay trading all those premium picks was going all in on Goff - but now we know that in order for him to be successful, he needs an elite OL, which makes those trades mistakes in hindsight.

I agree that should be a high priority, but now McVay has painted himself into a corner because we're showing needs at WR and QB, along with at least two OL positions.

 

[Classic Rams]

I have to think back if the Rams had ever lost to the worst or a winless team for a season. I believe this may have been a new low.

I remember way back when the Bucs visited the Coliseum in 1977 coming off 0-14 in 1976 and 0-(7 I think) in '77 and I was thinking we better not lose. 31-0 Rams final, whew. More recently (pre-McVay) it was a bad Ram team that no one wanted to lose to and there was an upset win vs the Aints.

 

[dieterbrock]

I have to think back if the Rams had ever lost to the worst or a winless team for a season. I believe this may have been a new low.

I remember way back when the Bucs visited the Coliseum in 1977 coming off 0-14 in 1976 and 0-(7 I think) in '77 and I was thinking we better not lose. 31-0 Rams final, whew. More recently (pre-McVay) it was a bad Ram team that no one wanted to lose to and there was an upset win vs the Aints.

Well, the Rams were the worst team in football, and winless with AJ Feeley at QB, when they beat the Saints, so there's that

 

[JonRam99]

As @jrry32 said in the vent thread, if the Rams were looking ahead to the Seattle game, they'd better deliver -- they didn't.
The Rams have farted in my face for the last time.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I was thinking about the most consistent team in the NFC, the Saints.

In the past four drafts they've picked OL in the first round twice and the second round once.

It's hard to say Cooks was a mistake because we made the Super Bowl, but I do think trading for Watkins/Peters/Cooks/Ramsey as opposed to loading up on the OL set the team back.

The truth is, Goff has had more time to pass than several QBs that are way outperforming him, and our run game has been pretty good - so it's not, IMO, that the OL is "bad" - it's that it's average-below average, and Goff needs it to be excellent.

McVay trading all those premium picks was going all in on Goff - but now we know that in order for him to be successful, he needs an elite OL, which makes those trades mistakes in hindsight.

I agree that should be a high priority, but now McVay has painted himself into a corner because we're showing needs at WR and QB, along with at least two OL positions.

I'm going to repeat myself with this part, so its likely you have heard it before. A big weakness on an Oline takes away from the quality of player on either side of the weak link. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

The weakness has as big of an effect as a strength. A guy like Whitworth elevates the play of anyone next to him. Edwards was looking very good most of the season. Sandwiched between Noteboom and Blythe, he is not looking that good. If they would have upgraded just Blythe alone it likely would have made an enormous difference. A stud center would improve play of both guards, which in turn makes things easier for both tackles. I know many here think the answer for the offensive line is on the roster, but I don't see a star caliber center on the roster. If none of them could unseat Blythe, who is bad, then how good can they be? One guy they liked as a guard or Center, but past up in round two by trading back is Elgton Jenkins, who just made the Pro Bowl. I get excited when I read about Olineman they really like, but its alk for naught. I see three OL positions that could stand to be upgraded and one really important future one. You're correct. Snead and McVay dug themselves a hole.

 

[jrry32]

I was thinking about the most consistent team in the NFC, the Saints.

In the past four drafts they've picked OL in the first round twice and the second round once.

It's hard to say Cooks was a mistake because we made the Super Bowl, but I do think trading for Watkins/Peters/Cooks/Ramsey as opposed to loading up on the OL set the team back.

The truth is, Goff has had more time to pass than several QBs that are way outperforming him, and our run game has been pretty good - so it's not, IMO, that the OL is "bad" - it's that it's average-below average, and Goff needs it to be excellent.

McVay trading all those premium picks was going all in on Goff - but now we know that in order for him to be successful, he needs an elite OL, which makes those trades mistakes in hindsight.

I agree that should be a high priority, but now McVay has painted himself into a corner because we're showing needs at WR and QB, along with at least two OL positions.

I feel quite confident that figure is misleading because of our heavy usage of play-action.

 

[Neil039]

I am sorry for revisiting this game, but I was just thinking about how big of a blunder that game was. If there ever was an inopportune game for the defense to not play up to their ability, it was that one. Win that and this is a relaxed game ahead and injured players are not a big deal. Technically McVay could have rested starters last week also. Maybe he would have been fighting for first but maybe he'd have thought that two weeks off for some key starters could rejuvenate them for the playoffs and be too valuable to pass up. That game has become so pivotal for the rest of the season.

This game over the past year is one that ticks me off. They were completely outplayed in every aspect by an 0-13 team. Completely unacceptable.