The Fisher extension

[Adi]

I have always backed fisher because I think they have built a great team. However I don't agree with an extension, give him next year as his make or break season . By week 1 next season there will be 0 excuses. I want results next year and I don't think bringing in a new coach will make us any better than having fisher.

 

[sjm1582002]

How is the Ram defense (usually) able to perform at a level worthy of a playoff team if the move to LA was so debilitating to all involved?

Furthermore, the move has not hindered another season long display of Hekker's first team all pro punting or Z's rebound from a sub par year.

Finally, aren't all the Ram's special team coverage units ranked in the top 10?

It is time to stop looking for excuses and instead insist on accountabilty.

 

[dieterbrock]

How is the Ram defense (usually) able to perform at a level worthy of a playoff team if the move to LA was so debilitating to all involved?

Furthermore, the move has not hindered another season long display of Hekker's first team all pro punting or Z's rebound from a sub par year.

Finally, aren't all the Ram's special team coverage units ranked in the top 10?

It is time to stop looking for excuses and instead insist on accountabilty.

No doubt
No mention of it at 3-1. No mention of it while Keenum was having his career game vs Detroit
No mention of it when the Rams had a 10 point lead with 5 minutes to go against the Dolphins
To top it off, the results are remarkably consistent with the entire 5 year span

 

[Ballhawk]

I have always backed fisher because I think they have built a great team. However I don't agree with an extension, give him next year as his make or break season . By week 1 next season there will be 0 excuses. I want results next year and I don't think bringing in a new coach will make us any better than having fisher.

Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!:mrburns:

 

[blackbart]

I don't know what's more funny the idea of watching the implosions that will happen on ROD or the idea that there would be some kind of mandate to Fisher.

Where's my popcorn

 

[FRO]

Another thing to consider is the Rams have been pretty healthy this year. I mean the Vikings are on their back up offense. There are big injuries around the league and for the most part, particularly on offense the Rams have been operating at fully capacity. That means either the players Fisher/Snead picked are horrible or Fisher and coaching staff can't coach the offensive talent. So extending both the coach and the guy who adds the talent seems odd to me. If you say Fisher is a good coach, then you strip him of personnel privileges and get a better GM. If you say the players are good, then you get rid of Fisher and get someone who can coach. Plain and simple. Having the worst offense in the league isn't due to moving the team. They would have been bad in St Louis.

 

[PARAM]

Extension? I don't worry about things I can't control. If they give him the extension, I will root my butt off for him. If they don't, I'll root my butt off for his replacement. At this point in time, it doesn't even interest me. What interests me is this. #14, #27, #7, #32 and #1. Those are he defensive rankings for our last 5 opponents. I am anxious to see how Jared Goff performs against those teams. If he does well, I will be anticipating the off season flying by and then I'll wonder about who our head coach is going forward. Is Fisher's dismissal a foregone conclusion? Does it still hang in the balance? Is an extension on the horizon? What difference does it make if Jared Goff deftly slings the ball around with precision?

 

[12intheBox]

I have always backed fisher because I think they have built a great team. However I don't agree with an extension, give him next year as his make or break season . By week 1 next season there will be 0 excuses. I want results next year and I don't think bringing in a new coach will make us any better than having fisher.

Bringing him back next year would necessarily mean an extension - his contract is up this year. They either sign a new contract w him this offseason or they sign a new coach. There aren't any other choices.

 

[Juice]

I am going to bet that it is going to be a three year extension, with the understanding that a high caliber offensive coordinator must be brought on who can assemble a staff including a QB coach. Also, that three year contract doesn't mean squat if he doesn't have a winning season.

 

[den-the-coach]

I am going to bet that it is going to be a three year extension, with the understanding that a high caliber offensive coordinator must be brought on who can assemble a staff including a QB coach. Also, that three year contract doesn't mean squat if he doesn't have a winning season.

That could very well happen and I would hope it would be Mike Shanahan, but most likely going to be Norv Turner IMO and Turner will be able to hire a QB Coach, hopefully, not his son Scott and I believe they will let OL Coach Paul Boudreau go, however, keep Rob Boras and make him the Offensive Line Coach and Mike Grohl will stay on as WR Coach.

 

[thirteen28]

How is the Ram defense (usually) able to perform at a level worthy of a playoff team if the move to LA was so debilitating to all involved?

Furthermore, the move has not hindered another season long display of Hekker's first team all pro punting or Z's rebound from a sub par year.

Finally, aren't all the Ram's special team coverage units ranked in the top 10?

It is time to stop looking for excuses and instead insist on accountabilty.

Exactly. The whole move excuse doesn't apply because it clearly hasn't affected defense or special teams. Are we supposed to believe that it somehow affected the offense only?

 

[dieterbrock]

I am going to bet that it is going to be a three year extension, with the understanding that a high caliber offensive coordinator must be brought on who can assemble a staff including a QB coach. Also, that three year contract doesn't mean squat if he doesn't have a winning season.

@FRO has made 2 great points regarding this that make this idea unsettling
1) What high caliber OC wants to work for a HC who is virtually lame duck
2) What good is bringing in a new OC that may be gone in a year if the team doesn't succeed and the Rams clean house?
Of course my thought is #3, is by keeping Fisher out of the offense, while Williams runs the D and Fassel the ST, what do we need Fisher for?

 

[FRO]

@FRO has made 2 great points regarding this that make this idea unsettling
1) What high caliber OC wants to work for a HC who is virtually lame duck
2) What good is bringing in a new OC that may be gone in a year if the team doesn't succeed and the Rams clean house?
Of course my thought is #3, is by keeping Fisher out of the offense, while Williams runs the D and Fassel the ST, what do we need Fisher for?

Great point on number 3. If the Rams feel Fisher has done a great job of adding talent, and on defense he clearly has, then why not promote him to president of football operations and hire Kyle Shanahan as HC? If you look at Fisher's entire career, he just isn't a successful HC. Year 6 won't be any different than years 1-5.

 

[Adi]

Bringing him back next year would necessarily mean an extension - his contract is up this year. They either sign a new contract w him this offseason or they sign a new coach. There aren't any other choices.

1 year extension, make or break season for him but I am sure he will get a long extension then get fired next year if they suck, just the rams way lol

 

[Ramlock]

Extension? I don't worry about things I can't control. If they give him the extension, I will root my butt off for him. If they don't, I'll root my butt off for his replacement. At this point in time, it doesn't even interest me. What interests me is this. #14, #27, #7, #32 and #1. Those are he defensive rankings for our last 5 opponents. I am anxious to see how Jared Goff performs against those teams. If he does well, I will be anticipating the off season flying by and then I'll wonder about who our head coach is going forward. Is Fisher's dismissal a foregone conclusion? Does it still hang in the balance? Is an extension on the horizon? What difference does it make if Jared Goff deftly slings the ball around with precision?

Great post

 

[dieterbrock]

1 year extension, make or break season for him but I am sure he will get a long extension then get fired next year if they suck, just the rams way lol

Cant sign him to a 1 year extension, that puts him in lame duck status again like this year.
It was a mistake not getting an obligatory 1 or 2 year deal done before this season. Cant make that mistake again

 

[Amitar]

Cant sign him to a 1 year extension, that puts him in lame duck status again like this year.
It was a mistake not getting an obligatory 1 or 2 year deal done before this season. Cant make that mistake again

It was a big mistake hiring him in the first place, and a bigger mistake not canning him last year.

 

[Tailback]

What good coordinator wants to step into this dumpster fire? Nobody with a lick of sense wants to take a job with a head coach on the hot seat.

If Fisher replaces a lot of his offensive coaching staff, at bare minimum Boras, I'll be ok with it. There can be no debating that the play calling has been atrocious this season most of the time. Boras has called a few good halfs such as the first half of the Detroit game. But in large it's usually bland as can be and highly, no, ungodly predictable.

New play caller with some innovation is the only way I accept Fisher being here another year. But I've been saying that at the end of every season he's been here so I'm not holding my breath.