The Fake Interception

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Karate61

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they would have called him down when his butt hit the ground, in my opinion
Man, you're not following me either. My pause for one hour was just an analogy that replay cannot be used to make the correct call 100% of the time.

You're trying to say (if I understand you correctly) that if you freeze frame the replay, woods is down, butt on the ground and all. And, you added "Super duper slow mo reflects reality"..

I'm saying there is more to a catch then that one instant you can freeze frame Wood's butt on the ground. So, that freeze frame doesn't make Woods down instantly, as he hasn't yet completed the act of a legal catch.

My comment about the one hour was not to counter one of your observations or opinions. It was kind of the opposite. You're stopping the frame at a moment, and I joked that you could conversely watch it for an hour. Joke!
 

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My argument is Wood was down by contact with the ground. You cannot strip the ball from a downed player. So it is either incomplete, failed to maintain possession when contacting the ground. Or a catch. I cannot see an interception because the defender did not have possession prior to the receiver being down.
Well that was exactly what it was, the pass wasn’t a completed pass. Unfortunately it never touched the ground thereby being a live ball until the defender took possession.
Woods never had possession, so he wasn’t down by-contact.
 

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it is obvious that the time elapsed in slow mo is not the same time that elapses at regular video playing speed). Therefore, if it's obvious that something happened while watching a video on slow mo, that thing is what happened at regular speed. It just happened faster.
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Man, you're not following me either. My pause for one hour was just an analogy that replay cannot be used to make the correct call 100% of the time.

You're trying to say (if I understand you correctly) that if you freeze frame the replay, woods is down, butt on the ground and all. And, you added "Super duper slow mo reflects reality"..

I'm saying there is more to a catch then that one instant you can freeze frame Wood's butt on the ground. So, that freeze frame doesn't make Woods down instantly, as he hasn't yet completed the act of a legal catch.

My comment about the one hour was not to counter one of your observations or opinions. It was kind of the opposite. You're stopping the frame at a moment, and I joked that you could conversely watch it for an hour. Joke!
Listen pal. Nobody jokes on the internet. It is a bastion of serious intellectual discussion of the highest order. What do you want me to say?

I'm really sorry about the mix up and this board deserves better on my part.

There are other situations where slow mo makes things more clear. It's just video of what actually happened. The video doesn't introduce anything new to the play.

My point about the butt thing was that if the defender didn't rip the ball out I think they would have called him down at the moment his butt touched the grass. However, when the defender rips the ball out, suddenly that doesn't count anymore. And again, I'm not even saying the wrong call was made. That was a fast play and probably they did the right thing. But saying that slow mo doesn't reflect the rules is the wrong way to think about it. The rules are the rules and the video evidence (at any speed) is reality. We need to judge the play by the reality that happened and how it fits the rules.

EDIT: to make my apology more clear.