The "experts" say 4-12 HAHAH

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Selassie I

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Experts my ass.

The real experts are in Vegas and they have us at 7.5 wins... and they have fucking ca$h on it.
 

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Geez, 4-12 is a ridiculous projection, no matter how these "experts" slice it.

We finished 7-9 with Foles/Keenum as our QB's.
Gurley for only 13 games and never !00%.
A musical chairs OL with a ton of rookies.
Cook as our TE.
Weakest WR corps in the league.
Cigs as OC for 11 games.

Looking at the player and coaching upgrades, and in light of the O development through just 4 practices, things seem to definitely be looking up.

I think that we are a helluva lot closer to 10 or 11 wins than we are to 4. C'mon...
 

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4-12, this team's too mediocre to win or lose more than 9 games
 

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It's pretty amazing. The media types always fap over their "QB driven league" bullshit (I disagree with it, but I digress) yet they never acknowledge the Rams hadn't had a consistent, 16 game starter at QB since 2012. The team wins games (some pretty impressive ones) without one, go out and draft a potential star and yet..4 wins?

LOL fuck them.
 

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It's pretty amazing. The media types always fap over their "QB driven league" bullcrap (I disagree with it, but I digress) yet they never acknowledge the Rams hadn't had a consistent, 16 game starter at QB since 2012. The team wins games (some pretty impressive ones) without one, go out and draft a potential star and yet..4 wins?

LOL freak them.

And Goff is going to change that from the get-go?

I love the preseason hype as much as anyone, but history says under Fisher, our offense will under perform and our defense will keep us in close games. We could be 10-6 or 4-12, and everything in between.
 

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Nothing surprises me any more so anywhere from 4 to 12 wins sounds about right....
 

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So if we have to go without Gurley for a few games, 4-12 with last year's squad wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. So, yeah.
Rams went 6-10 without Gurley, no LT and with the usual backup suspects at QB in 2014 so yeah...4-12 is a silly prediction. If you believe 4-12 is a logical prediction then i don't know where your perspective is coming from regarding what kind of team this is and has been.
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I can see 6-10, but not 4-12. Only way 4-12 happens is if injuries pile up.

We could end up 6-10 or 10-6.. or somewhere in between. I'm sure there will be a few games decided by just a few points, just a few plays..
 

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If the Rams suffer a trainwreck of injuries and general travashamockery this season they'll still be a competitive team on most Sundays.
IMO...the floor is 6-10 and the ceiling is 10-6

4-12 is dumb. Did i mention that 4 wins is a dumb prediction?
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Rams went 6-10 without Gurley, no LT and with the usual backup suspects at QB in 2014 so yeah...4-12 is a silly prediction. If you believe 4-12 is a logical prediction then i don't know where your perspective is coming from regarding what kind of team this is and has been.
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My point is, you can't predict the future just like these "experts" can't. It's pointless to argue that their prediction is wrong, that yours is right, etc. It's all conjecture, and anything can happen.
 

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My point is, you can't predict the future just like these "experts" can't. It's pointless to argue that their prediction is wrong, that yours is right, etc. It's all conjecture, and anything can happen.

he's not arguing. he's saying their prediction is dumb, which it is. under fisher the rams have shown they are a minimum 6 win team, no matter the injuries.

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he's not arguing. he's saying their prediction is dumb, which it is. under fisher the rams have shown they are a minimum 6 win team, no matter the injuries.

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Argue, debate, etc. Semantics.

Their prediction may be dumb, but so is trying to state conjecture as fact-- either way.
 

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Argue, debate, etc. Semantics.

Their prediction may be dumb, but so is trying to state conjecture as fact-- either way.

You're on a fan forum. What are you doing here if you don't want to read conjecture?

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Wolfecola

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You're on a fan forum. What are you doing here if you don't want to read conjecture?

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Aside from the fact that there's much more to this community, I never said I didn't want to read conjecture, nor that there's anything wrong with it. Everyone has a different opinion. But saying we'll go 4-12 is no different than saying we'll go 16-0; it's not based on fact. The difference is one obviously triggered a negative emotional response for a few fans.

Fisher's previous records with the team are 7-8-1, 7-9, 6-10 and 7-9. All it takes is a three game swing in any of those seasons to end up 4-12 or 10-6, all of which were very possible. So when an analyst on national TV says they predict we'll go 4-12, I'm not surprised. When an analyst on national TV says we'll go 10-6, I'm not surprised.

If you don't value these "experts" opinions, then why do you care what they say? So much so, to not only repeat it on an internet forum, but actually have an in-depth discussion about it? Seems like they did their job.