The Derek Carr Situation Could be Interesting UPDATE: Signs w/Saints

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The Derek Carr situation may turn-out to be fun to follow and discuss. And there’s a lot to consider.

Seems pretty clear that Las Vegas wants to move-on, but How?

The Raiders could simply release Carr and get big cap savings ($29M) with relatively little Dead-$ ($5.6M). Then the discussion is how attractive a free agent the 32-year-old Carr would be?

Already seen some posts that have little regard for Derek Carr. I don’t agree.

I think Carr would be very attractive to a number of teams. There are a bunch of teams that may believe they are a QB-upgrade away from being really good; and Carr could represent such an upgrade to some of them.

That would take us into a discussion of how good a quarterback is David Carr … borderline-top-10 … top-16 (half the League) … no better than top-20. There are stats to analyze, who Carr has played for/with, lack of playoff experience (one game) and age to consider.

I don’t know that the Raiders would simply release him. A number of teams may be willing to offer a trade, with the hope / expectation that they can redo his contract to give Carr more guaranteed money but reduce his cap hit for the next couple seasons. Then the discussion is what type of compensation would Las Vegas get back. Teams have given up a ton in recent off-seasons for veteran QBs, with very mixed results.

How about this as a topic for discussion. Several teams may want to trade for Carr but only under the condition that they first get to negotiate a new contract for cap relief and security. The Raiders could be OK with that but Carr might say ‘No’. Carr could try to scare-off teams seeking a trade by refusing to negotiate with one team, in hope that the Raiders would release him; and then Carr could negotiate as a free agent with any team.

Could even have another Deshaun Watson situation where the Raiders work-out a trade with multiple teams, then turn to Carr and say negotiate a new contract that you like and we will trade you to that team.

My whole point is that things could be simple and straight-forward, or complicated and drag-out.

As Rams fans, we will be so focused on what our team does this off-season … and that will come with some stress and anxiety. It may be enjoyable to follow, discuss and debate a significant player move that may not impact the Rams … unless Derek Carr goes to San Francisco!
 

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They are going all in on Tom Brady for 2023. Which might be a good match for Brady with McDaniels, but then he'll have to compete against Mahomes & Herbert...Good Luck.
 

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They are going all in on Tom Brady for 2023. Which might be a good match for Brady with McDaniels, but then he'll have to compete against Mahomes & Herbert...Good Luck.
Still another interesting and related topic!

What will the Raiders do at QB? I had not thought about Brady.
 

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You could do a lot worse than Derek Carr, that’s for sure. Derek Bike comes to mind.
 

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You make a good argument @Allen2McVay. Carr has played well despite having a little Stafford/Detroit like support in his career.

Carr has NEVER had a top 20 defense. Check this out, PPG:

2014 - 32nd
2015 - 22nd
2016 - 20th
2017 - 20th
2018 - 32nd
2019 - 24th
2020 - 29th
2021 - 26th
2022 - 24th

:wow2:
 

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Brady or no, there's no way they would keep Carr with that ridiculous contract.
They'll cut him for sure
 

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I dont think the Raiders retire numbers, so #12 could work in Silver and Black, cant work in Miami or San Fran....
Unless Bob Griese or John Broadie allow Brady to don their retired jersey.
 

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Someone will trade for him; he's a talented quarterback, and talented QBs are always at a premium.
 

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You make a good argument @Allen2McVay. Carr has played well despite having a little Stafford/Detroit like support in his career.

Carr has NEVER had a top 20 defense. Check this out, PPG:

2014 - 32nd
2015 - 22nd
2016 - 20th
2017 - 20th
2018 - 32nd
2019 - 24th
2020 - 29th
2021 - 26th
2022 - 24th

:wow2:
And, I'm not really a huge Derek Carr fan. I was just trying to say Carr could be a good off-season NFL-story.

I just think in this NFL, where there are the Have-QBs and the Have-Not-QBs, this story could be interesting.

Personally, I would put Carr outside the top-10 but in the top-16 of NFL Quarterbacks.
 

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Defense can't secure a lead?
Fire the QB.

Such a Raider thing to do.
Dumbasses.
 
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Brady or no, there's no way they would keep Carr with that ridiculous contract.
They'll cut him for sure
His dead cap isn't too bad as I recall if he's a late cut.

Kind of a cruel way to treat the only reason you haven't had the worst record in the NFL over the last 8 seasons though...
 

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I think Carr has been one of the best parts of the Raiders for most of his tenure there. He certainly isn’t why they lose games and is the main reason for many of their wins

He can make all the throws and seems to read the field well when he has time to get through progressions.

Having Adams would seem to make it difficult for cutting Carr. No way Adams is going to be happy with losing his buddy and the only reason he went to the Raiders.

Brady for how long? That would be a dumb move but it wouldn’t be the first stupid thing they’ve done.

What are they going to do about Jacobs?

Too many questions for a franchise that needs better leadership from the top down.
 

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Carr is the best eyeliner wearing QB on the planet... period.


I don't want an eyeliner wearing QB on my team... period.
See! THIS is the type of in-depth football analysis that made me think this would be an interesting topic.