The Colin Cowherd Podcast

[RamFan58years]

I think we all need to acknowledge the above 0% possibility that the Rams already know, or strongly suspect they will not sign him to a new deal next year and are wringing as much out of him as they can. He had to go to the blue tent earlier in the game and now the knee. Yeah, it may not be torn up, but it's not nothing. Just add it to the groin issue and everything else that's been injured on top of the off field stuff. I'm not advocating for this but let's keep our eyes open to the chance.

I posted the above on a "Puka Hurt" thread Sunday night before we knew the extent of the injury. I'm not convinced they want to allocate a $50M AAV salary to him, and the idea of starting over next year with minimum salary cap space of $80M per Spotrac with no Stafford or Puka is not the end of the world. We all love Puka's heart and fierceness but they've turned him into a 25 year old going on 30 wide receiver, and he just may not be worth it. The kind of deal he wants is not given strictly for past efforts.

 

[Fire Ants]

Colin is a dimwit with a microphone.

Actually, no

 

[PARAM]

I don't know what to expect except the unexpected with the Rams. There was a time, not too long ago, I couldn't envision the Rams without Kupp. But I'll worry about shit like that after the season. There's still work to be done.

 

[muggmeister]

Used to be ok watching him but no longer. He is the biggest fucking Homer and bandwagon jumper off fucking time. Born in the northwest so he used to suck Sehawk dicks, then on LA a d sucking the Dodger and Laker tit, now on to Chicago and is deepthroating the hell out of Caleb, Cubbies, and the Bulls of yesteryear. Still not as bad as Sephen "racist" Smith but getting close. Peter Schraeger is about the only one I can listen to more than 5 minutes of.

 

[PARAM]

Used to be ok watching him but no longer. He is the biggest fucking Homer and bandwagon jumper off fucking time. Born in the northwest so he used to suck Sehawk dicks, then on LA a d sucking the Dodger and Laker tit, now on to Chicago and is deepthroating the hell out of Caleb, Cubbies, and the Bulls of yesteryear. Still not as bad as Sephen "racist" Smith but getting close. Peter Schraeger is about the only one I can listen to more than 5 minutes of.

He also was on the Rams bandwagon. This is just another hot take. They all....or most of them.....do it. I don't care how he has jumped around.....Seahawks, Rams, Bears.....he's trying to stay relevant.

What bothers me is he's become no better than some dicks on the internet. He invents shit, repeats it a lot, then presents it as fact. It's only opinion.

The latest that got to me was his theory on finding a franchise QB and the percentages he gives for being successful. Using all QBs drafted in the 'formula', as if somebody taken after the first two rounds is really expected to be a franchise QB. It was a lame attempt and actually another hot take.

I have become a fan of First Things First. At least those guys make it clear who their team is (KC, Balt, NEng) so you know they can be a little slanted when it comes to discussing their team. But they have a show that is entertaining and informative.

Greg Jennings (GB) and Danny Parkins (Bears fan) join them as well as former coach Eric Mangini. I could never stand Mangini but have changed that view the more I listen to him talk football.

They follow Cowherds 3 hours with a 2 hour show and FTF OT sometimes.

 

[pvtdragon39]

I think we all need to acknowledge the above 0% possibility that the Rams already know, or strongly suspect they will not sign him to a new deal next year and are wringing as much out of him as they can. He had to go to the blue tent earlier in the game and now the knee. Yeah, it may not be torn up, but it's not nothing. Just add it to the groin issue and everything else that's been injured on top of the off field stuff. I'm not advocating for this but let's keep our eyes open to the chance.

I posted the above on a "Puka Hurt" thread Sunday night before we knew the extent of the injury. I'm not convinced they want to allocate a $50M AAV salary to him, and the idea of starting over next year with minimum salary cap space of $80M per Spotrac with no Stafford or Puka is not the end of the world. We all love Puka's heart and fierceness but they've turned him into a 25 year old going on 30 wide receiver, and he just may not be worth it. The kind of deal he wants is not given strictly for past efforts.

Past effort deals was given to Kupp,Donald, and Sjax. So maybe the injuries are, why the fuck am I playing and hurting myself for you, If you are not going to sign me long term? Im not saying this one is a fake injury, but a lot of weirdness has been going on.

Got rid of Kupp, and sign a Injury prone older WR in Adams with same amount of money, and Kept TUTU ( 2 Drops) Atwell, with that money. Guess who wasnt injury prone last year all of a sudden? played all year, and Won a Super Bowl? Didnt miss a game this year yet neither? Kupp

Now they didnt get a WR to Help, and now Puka is hurt Again because of Mcvay's stupid ass. Adams got hurt because a 34 year old WR took all the Targets of Puka, because our JAGS cant catch anything! Our Problem is McVay is getting our WRs hurt. I dont see JSN, Kupp hurt every other week for last 2 seasons, now do you?

Thing is Kupp is 1000% trying to recruit Puka to Seattle because they threw him away like garbage! In every interview he has, they ask him one mention of Rams, he seethes inside.

If Puka is Gone, Seahawks will 1000% Pay him, and Have JSN, PUKA, KUPP, and Sneed!

If Stafford is gone, Mcvay is gone Prob too to be honest. He cant stand this season, and has said it multiple times now! Let alone a possible another 5-12 season with Ty or Stetson. He will Mike Tomlin and Peace the fuck out. Hes already Checked out. Just look at the stupid he has done the last 2 years! He Finally started to care again a bit last year, to get kicked in the balls by Seattle 2 times last year. Stafford Cares more than Mcvay at this point. He was giving him hell last week! I honestly woudnt be Surprised if we had Stafford and Puka without Mcvay next year. Mcvay even called Stafford being a "Basket Case" a few times now. Honestly this Team has had enough of Mcvay, and its starting to show through the Star Players now!

 

[PARAM]

34 year old WR took all the Targets of Puka, because our JAGS cant catch anything!

I honestly don't think that's the problem. We'll find out this week for sure. But I think it's McVay and Stafford. That's the problem with targeting Davante (when Puka was out) and Puka (when Davante is IN or out). It's those 2 or the TEs and occasionally the RBs. If they went to the RBs and the "JAG" WRs a little more often it might help. I don't think the "JAGS" can't catch. I think #9 and the HC trust Adams and Puka so much (and rightfully so), they can't get off of them. It's quite possible we get surprised this Sunday.

 

[muggmeister]

Thing is Kupp is 1000% trying to recruit Puka to Seattle because they threw him away like garbage! In every interview he has, they ask him one mention of Rams, he seethes inside.

If Puka is Gone, Seahawks will 1000% Pay him, and Have JSN, PUKA, KUPP, and Sneed!

How can any team pay $80m a year to 2 WRs? Not sure the math would work, they have other mouths to feed so I don't see this as realistic, but hell, I could very well be wrong.

 

[pvtdragon39]

I honestly don't think that's the problem. We'll find out this week for sure. But I think it's McVay and Stafford. That's the problem with targeting Davante (when Puka was out) and Puka (when Davante is IN or out). It's those 2 or the TEs and occasionally the RBs. If they went to the RBs and the "JAG" WRs a little more often it might help. I don't think the "JAGS" can't catch. I think #9 and the HC trust Adams and Puka so much (and rightfully so), they can't get off of them.

So you think its the lack of reps causing the Drops with everyone else? I could see that.

Kyren seems to be in the Dog house, and its not helping us at all neither. Corum is Fast and Shifty but thats it. Kyren has been our TD Machine, yet Corum is now Defacto Starter it seems. They put Corum in and Run 90% of the time and Just Pass when Kyren is in, until the end of the Game where 80 perecnt of his Rushes have been recently. Now Defenses are going to Stack the box Hard that Puka and Adams are out. He has done this Running against no good teams to be fair. Kyren has Proven time and Time again hes better and done this against Teams that are better.

 

[pvtdragon39]

How can any team pay $80m a year to 2 WRs? Not sure the math would work, they have other mouths to feed so I don't see this as realistic, but hell, I could very well be wrong.

Yes, you are prob right! I mean if they go with Lock instead of Darnold Post June1(Saves 38.5 Mil/6.4 dead) Pre June 1 ( 25.7mil/19 Dead) it could happen if they structrue Puka contract right.

 

[FrantikRam]

IF we are done with Puka, it'll be a franchise/trade situation. But I'm pretty confident we will lock him up

 

[Hobgoblin]

Yes, you are prob right! I mean if they go with Lock instead of Darnold Post June1(Saves 38.5 Mil/6.4 dead) Pre June 1 ( 25.7mil/19 Dead) it could happen if they structrue Puka contract right.

I thought we would still have to sign him after his rookie deal before we can trade him.

So, we would have to pay Puka something either way after his rookie deal and he IS a TOP WR pay most likely or Franchise tag him and trade him. Then we could trade him possibly, but we'd eat substantial dead cap.

Not the smartest thing to do so I think we at least resign him and keep him another year at MINIMUM.

Edit: Sorry FrantikRam said it already

 

[pvtdragon39]

IF we are done with Puka, it'll be a franchise/trade situation. But I'm pretty confident we will lock him up

Hope you are right about us extending him!

 

[pvtdragon39]

I thought we would still have to sign him after his rookie deal before we can trade him.

So, we would have to pay Puka something either way after his rookie deal and he IS a TOP WR pay most likely or Franchise tag him and trade him. Then we could trade him possibly, but we'd eat substantial dead cap.

Not the smartest thing to do so I think we at least resign him and keep him another year at MINIMUM.

Edit: Sorry FrantikRam said it already

Problem is they could just let him walk. Then hes free to do whatever. Hes a UFA when his contract is up! If he Gets Tagged, hes prob traded!

We havent Tagged many in our history(9), and it usually doesnt end well when we do. Most end up leaving anyway. Only Exception we had was Orlando Pace.

 

[PARAM]

So you think its the lack of reps causing the Drops with everyone else? I could see that.

Kyren seems to be in the Dog house, and its not helping us at all neither. Corum is Fast and Shifty but thats it. Kyren has been our TD Machine, yet Corum is now Defacto Starter it seems. They put Corum in and Run 90% of the time and Just Pass when Kyren is in, until the end of the Game where 80 perecnt of his Rushes have been recently. Now Defenses are going to Stack the box Hard that Puka and Adams are out. He has done this Running against no good teams to be fair. Kyren has Proven time and Time again hes better and done this against Teams that are better.

Not at all. I'm saying it's the lack of targets causing us to view them as JAGS.

I can only hope they stack the box. We'll be running a lot of 13P. I could see Corum busting a long TD run. I could see Kyren getting more targets in the passing game and subsequently more production. I could see the TEs getting some chunk plays. And I could see some of the JAGS getting targeted for chunk plays. Success depends on complimentary football. If our D can play lights out and 13P is successful.....I don't mean as much as it was last season but close........we'll be just fine until the big boys return. I think the key is #9 and McVay HAVE TO TARGET other players. It may bring some "geez, I didn't know he could do that" when we see some success.

 

[dang]

A wealthy dimwit, these days....

Better than most…IMO.

 

[snackdaddy]

If the Rams go deep in the playoffs and fall short again, I think Stafford gives it one more try. If they win it all, or on the flip side, miss the playoffs altogether, I think he retires. I do think McVay sticks around. He's gotta be thinking of his legacy. He won't want his kids to think he's a quitter.

 

[brucebruce]

Used to be ok watching him but no longer. He is the biggest fucking Homer and bandwagon jumper off fucking time. Born in the northwest so he used to suck Sehawk dicks, then on LA a d sucking the Dodger and Laker tit, now on to Chicago and is deepthroating the hell out of Caleb, Cubbies, and the Bulls of yesteryear. Still not as bad as Sephen "racist" Smith but getting close. Peter Schraeger is about the only one I can listen to more than 5 minutes of.

cowherd has fallen off of a cliff. barely watchable even in small doses these days. smith has been unwatchable for even a second this entire decade.

 

[pvtdragon39]

Not at all. I'm saying it's the lack of targets causing us to view them as JAGS.

I can only hope they stack the box. We'll be running a lot of 13P. I could see Corum busting a long TD run. I could see Kyren getting more targets in the passing game and subsequently more production. I could see the TEs getting some chunk plays. And I could see some of the JAGS getting targeted for chunk plays. Success depends on complimentary football. If our D can play lights out and 13P is successful.....I don't mean as much as it was last season but close........we'll be just fine until the big boys return. I think the key is #9 and McVay HAVE TO TARGET other players. It may bring some "geez, I didn't know he could do that" when we see some success.

I hope this is the case with CJ and TUTU!

 

[DzRams]

IF we are done with Puka, it'll be a franchise/trade situation. But I'm pretty confident we will lock him up

Agreed. Has an elite, 25 year old WR like Puka ever hit free agency?

0% chance of that happening.