The Cheat's "Incomplete Pass"

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CoachAllred

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As I have said, on this board, multiple times all NFL officials suck. There needs to be stricter requirements in place to become an NFL official. It should also be paid and treated as a full time job and not a part time position. They should be evaluated after each week and if they are not meeting the standards after four games be given their walking papers. Some of these guys are so incompetent that the NFL should be embarrassed. Apparently these guys don't have any self pride, just collecting a check each week.
Agreed, But Boogerhead has always been in a class of his own.
 

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Also I noticed on 2 different occasions, whoever was opposite of Blythe violently jacked Blythe's head back with hands to the face/mask, either unseen or uncalled. That a-hole should get fined this week, but I doubt we ever hear about it.
 

oldnotdead

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All this stuff about a historic crew. What BS then they go out and have a clear bias in their officiating. The only reason it wasn't a complete blowout is the historically bad officiating being bias towards the Lamb and his bunch.
 

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Cripes, this reminds me of that “reception requires control through the ground” BS that we had to put up with for several years. The WORDING of the rule messes everything up.

When the league reverts to something that relies more on common sense and “what a play looks like” (did that look like a catch, or not?) the problem goes away.

In the Rams-Bucs game, the ball immediately started going DOWN when it left Brady’s hand, and only fell forward by a yard or two before it hit a lineman’s leg and then went to the ground. It LOOKED like a fumble, and it should have been called as such.

By contrast, in the Rams-Steelers game, the ball left Goff’s hand and went forward a FULL TEN YARDS— from the 31 to the 41. It LOOKED like an incomplete pass, and should have been called as such.

The rulebook seems to be hung up on the wording of “hand going forward with control.” But if you pay more attention to the OUTCOME of the movement, it’s easier to determine what really happened— ie. whether the QB actually had control or not.

The wording of this rule needs to be changed. These 2 plays perfectly illustrate why.
 

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Yeah, that quick whistle forced the Rams to burn a time out to get a review. The Ref's need to let that play through, then get the automatic review on either a turnover or scoring play.
 

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Yeah, that quick whistle forced the Rams to burn a time out to get a review. The Ref's need to let that play through, then get the automatic review on either a turnover or scoring play.

What competent ref blows the whistle in that situation? It looked like a fumble live. Never came close to looking like a pass.

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Bullshit call by Boger and his crew. We got hosed against the Steelers on the same call last year like you guys stated but we also got bailed out in the same call against New Orleans in Week 2 last year that changed the momentum of the game. I think these things end up evening out for teams over time except if your Thomas Brady then it just always goes in his favor
 

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Bullshit call by Boger and his crew. We got hosed against the Steelers on the same call last year like you guys stated but we also got bailed out in the same call against New Orleans in Week 2 last year that changed the momentum of the game. I think these things end up evening out for teams over time except if your Thomas Brady then it just always goes in his favor
They never even out. One call happens at a critical time and changes the whole game and a team runs away with the score and the call that would even it up happens when the out come has been decided. That doesn't even it up. Some bad calls happen at worse times then others. In the super bowl, did the holding call against us when Gurley had that big run get evened up. Fuck no. Did Vinnie Testeverde's helmet being mistaken for the ball going over the goal line get evened up. Did the fumble call against Goff in the Steelers game get evened out. No. It never evens out. You can only hope you are a good enough team to over come bad calls. Or that there is enough time in the game to over come a bad call.
 

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Someone on the Rams need to take the fines for talking about officials.

We have Aaron Donald - how is he almost never held? How? We saw a blatant one on that play. Yet later in the game, they flag us for (an obvious) holding.

There were two penalties on the Bucs, and they were just offsides which were only called because our OL jumped, which forced the refs hand. No other penalties? Really??

Get the media talking about it, which will get casual fans talking about, which will put pressure on the NFL - how is Aaron Donald never held? Let's do it Sean.
He's already on it!


Aaron Donald says he's not playing 'bad football' despite zero sacks in past 2 games, rips 'blatant' uncalled holds


Los Angeles Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald has not recorded a sack or even a tackle over the past two games, something the two-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year says he has "never, ever" done in his life, "until this year."

However, Donald -- who ranks third in the NFL with nine sacks and 35 pressures -- remains confident about his level of play.

"At the end of the day I don't think I'm playing bad football," Donald said Wednesday. "I feel like I'm disruptive, I'm still almost making plays, getting quarterbacks to get the ball off last minute, whatever the case may be. Guys around me making plays, too, so it's not nothing that I'm mad about."

But that's not to say that Donald isn't frustrated about one aspect of his game.

When asked if officials had been missing holding calls, Donald didn't hold back.

"In my opinion, they hold every play," Donald said, adding that in a 27-24 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Monday Night Football, "there was some blatant holds that we didn't get the call for."

Donald pointed to a play late in the third quarter, when Bucs quarterback Tom Brady was facing third-and-15 from his 8-yard line. When hit by Rams defensive end Morgan Fox in the end zone, Brady appeared to fumble and the Rams recovered, but the play was quickly blown dead and ruled an incomplete pass.

"I feel like Fox got the ball out, so that should have been a sack anyway, and if it wasn't, it should have been a holding call and a safety because [Buccaneers left tackle Donovan Smith] held me in the end zone," Donald said. "So I thought was going to get the flag, I looked around, there was a lot of chaos, didn't, but it is what it is, so just got to keep playing ball."

The Rams' defense ranks second in efficiency and points allowed per game (19.2), and the unit ranks third in the NFL with 32 sacks.

Holding calls across the NFL are at a 20-season low, according to research by ESPN Stats & Information. There have been 357 offensive holding penalties through 11 weeks, down from the 660 offensive holding penalties at the same point last season.

Defensive coordinator Brandon Staley acknowledged that holding penalties were down across the league, but said the Rams (7-3) would examine the lack of calls in favor of Donald, who has been double-teamed on a league-high 223 of his pass rushes, which is 35 more than the next player, Chicago Bears defensive end Akiem Hicks, who has faced 188 double-teams.

"That's just saying that people are blocking him straight up, which we know is not the case, so holding calls just in general are down, but that's something that is a concern because it happened in the Seattle game as well," Staley said, referencing Los Angeles' Week 10 win. "It's like Shaquille O'Neal back when he was playing, this guy -- I think people take for granted how good he is and we need to make sure that people are seeing the game the way that they need to."

When asked if he lobbied with officials to bring attention to opponents holding him, Donald chuckled.

"All the damn time I talk to them," Donald said. "I say, 'You got to see that holding call,' they say they don't see it. I'm like, 'Man, the guy got me around my neck, grabbed, pulled my shirt, I just beat a guy with a clean rush.' But it's all right, hopefully I'm gonna get one sooner or later that's gonna help us big time, so I just got to keep playing."
 

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I think they would have awarded the ball to the Rams at the spot it was recovered and possessed. I dont think they could have given a TD because I do believe the whistle had been blown
Or I believe we should have had the opportunity of taking a safety for the distinctively blatant hold on Donald on the play that, of course, also wasn't called.
 

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I get pissed off every time I see that Pittsburgh tragedy, especially knowing what it cost us....
we need someone to put them side by side for comparison ..just to make us that much more pissed