Target To Eliminate Signs Specifying Boys Or Girls Toys

[jrry32]

I stand by what I said (or implied). Someone made a tweet expressing faux outrage over the audacity that a store would dare separate children's toys into gender specific aisles, that same tweet gets re-retweed, people who didn't give a crap about it began to rally around it, and a Corporation caved under what is now the New Moral Order lest they start to lose revenue from the inevitable boycott over their non-compliance.

THAT is the pussification of America. If you don't see it, or don't agree with it, then that's fine.
But let's not pretend that there's only one way to look at this.

Is that the "pussification of America" or is grown men complaining about how a business arranges children's toy aisles the "pussification of America?"

I mean no offense here but it's such a ridiculous thing to be outraged about. Businesses protect their own ass. What Target is doing is a total non-story. And the "consequences" are pretty much nonexistent...except for giving people a soapbox to stand on and complain about political correctness.

 

[Robocop]

this is just a push for the transgender/transsexual agenda. so how does that work in bathrooms and locker rooms and in the military for transsexuals. should we just go to unisex bathrooms now?

 

[raised_fisT]

Is that the "pussification of America" or is grown men complaining about how a business arranges children's toy aisles the "pussification of America?"

I mean no offense here but it's such a ridiculous thing to be outraged about. Businesses protect their own ass. What Target is doing is a total non-story. And the "consequences" are pretty much nonexistent...except for giving people a soapbox to stand on and complain about political correctness.

I don't think any of us are "outraged". I for one, couldn't give two shits how Target labels their aisles. It's the principle here. No matter what you do these days, SOMEONE is going to find a way to be offended by something. THAT's the "pussification" I was referring to.

No one has a sense of humor about anything anymore and everyone is quick to cry foul about any damn thing they can. Can't hold the door open for a female anymore because that might be viewed as sexist. I'd be showcasing my male dominance over her (and women all over the world) because I'm REALLY just saying she's too weak and helpless to open the door by herself. *eyeroll

You getting bent out of shape about US getting "outraged" is a whole other issue I'm not even going to try and get into.

 

[jrry32]

I don't think any of us are "outraged". I for one, couldn't give two shits how Target labels their aisles. It's the principle here. No matter what you do these days, SOMEONE is going to find a way to be offended by something. THAT's the "pussification" I was referring to.

No one has a sense of humor about anything anymore and everyone is quick to cry foul about any damn thing they can. Can't hold the door open for a female anymore because that might be viewed as sexist. I'd be showcasing my male dominance over her (and women all over the world) because I'm REALLY just saying she's too weak and helpless to open the door by herself. *eyeroll

You getting bent out of shape about US getting "outraged" is a whole other issue I'm not even going to try and get into.

There is no principle here. It's a business making a move because they believe it will be beneficial for their bottom-line.

No one has a sense of humor anymore? Bullshit. Can't hold the door open for women anymore or else it's viewed as sexist? Bullshit.(I do it all the time and people either say, "thanks/thank you" or nothing at all)

The whole concept of the "pussification" is in people's minds. They simply look for the things that confirm it when the reality is that society becoming more tolerant and mindful isn't "pussification," it's progress.

This nonsense people label as "pussification" is nothing new. It's simply society's ideals changing and restrictions being placed in different areas than before.

I'm getting "bent out of shape" over seeing this "pussification" nonsense pop up again and again. It's a ridiculous label that often comes out when people overreact to trivial things. The true irony is people act like the things that "pussification" stand for are actually new and a change when it's been this way for a LONG time. The things you're complaining about are just being applied in different spheres. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why people get so upset when they believe society is trying to promote equality and tolerance.

 

[jrry32]

this is just a push for the transgender/transsexual agenda. so how does that work in bathrooms and locker rooms and in the military for transsexuals. should we just go to unisex bathrooms now?

How does it work? You use the bathroom of the sex you identify as. It's really simple.

This could also be a push for the homosexual agenda. Or even better yet, a push for the let children play with whatever toys they want agenda. I'm appalled. How could parents let their children play with the toys they want? Girls aren't allowed to play with footballs or toy race cars or GI Joes.

 

[Zombie Slayer]

When did anyone say that boys or girls couldn't play with whatever toys they wanted to? In today's society you definitely wouldn't be able to get away with that even if you wanted to lol

 

[bluecoconuts]

this is just a push for the transgender/transsexual agenda. so how does that work in bathrooms and locker rooms and in the military for transsexuals. should we just go to unisex bathrooms now?

In the case of the military, it goes off whatever gender you list. Of course that doesn't mean you can just announce that you want to be a chick and bunk with the females, you need to have some sort of proof, hormone treatment/surgery, etc in order to qualify.

I'm assuming that bathrooms and locker rooms would be pretty similar. Plenty of places have unisex bathrooms though. In fact my lab has a unisex bathroom/shower in it. We have a few single toilet bathrooms (all unisex obviously) that lock with each person, and we have one public bathroom with showers in them since there are times people will literally spend days doing research. I haven't used the showers or anything, but I know others who have and they just shower and do what they have to do an leave, nobody seems to care from what I can tell.

 

[bluecoconuts]

When did anyone say that boys or girls couldn't play with whatever toys they wanted to? In today's society you definitely wouldn't be able to get away with that even if you wanted to lol

I think that's the point, Target is just getting rid of labels of boy and girl so the kids will just pick whatever they want and not feel bad about picking a toy not for their gender. That way a girl can pick up a GI Joe or Lego's or something similar, or a boy can pick up whatever the hell girls play with, and it's not "oh man they're picking the wrong toy they must be gay" and rather they're just picking whatever toy they want.

 

[Stranger]

more social engineering.

 

[raised_fisT]

There is no principle here. It's a business making a move because they believe it will be beneficial for their bottom-line.

No one has a sense of humor anymore? bullcrap. Can't hold the door open for women anymore or else it's viewed as sexist? bullcrap.(I do it all the time and people either say, "thanks/thank you" or nothing at all)

The whole concept of the "pussification" is in people's minds. They simply look for the things that confirm it when the reality is that society becoming more tolerant and mindful isn't "pussification," it's progress.

This nonsense people label as "pussification" is nothing new. It's simply society's ideals changing and restrictions being placed in different areas than before.

I'm getting "bent out of shape" over seeing this "pussification" nonsense pop up again and again. It's a ridiculous label that often comes out when people overreact to trivial things. The true irony is people act like the things that "pussification" stand for are actually new and a change when it's been this way for a LONG time. The things you're complaining about are just being applied in different spheres. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why people get so upset when they believe society is trying to promote equality and tolerance.

Admirable of you to fight 'the good fight'. Despite us being in a FOOTBALL forum, we aren't all neanderthals in here. I'm all for equality and such and maybe I shouldn't have used the "pussification" word to make my point. Afterall, that word in and of itself is pretty gender specific and can ruffle some feathers as you so kindly showed us. But, I guess I'm still stuck in my Caveman mentality with certain things....

I hold the door open for people all the time, it's just good manners.... but there are plenty of studies and articles devoted to the "benevolent sexism" displayed by men when they "pretend" to be chivalrous with their actions. Researching and eliminating these oh-so-awful acts from society isn't PROGRESS to me. There's a fine line.

Society going from calling people "retarded" to "disabled" is progress.
But sometimes things go a bit far. I guess I haven't got my rose colored glasses yet.
No hard feelings, bro. ---Is it OK if I call you, bro?

 

[jrry32]

Admirable of you to fight 'the good fight'. Despite us being in a FOOTBALL forum, we aren't all neanderthals in here. I'm all for equality and such and maybe I shouldn't have used the "pussification" word to make my point. Afterall, that word in and of itself is pretty gender specific and can ruffle some feathers as you so kindly showed us. But, I guess I'm still stuck in my Caveman mentality with certain things....

I hold the door open for people all the time, it's just good manners.... but there are plenty of studies and articles devoted to the "benevolent sexism" displayed by men when they "pretend" to be chivalrous with their actions. Researching and eliminating these oh-so-awful acts from society isn't PROGRESS to me. There's a fine line.

Society going from calling people "retarded" to "disabled" is progress.
But sometimes things go a bit far. I guess I haven't got my rose colored glasses yet.
No hard feelings, bro. ---Is it OK if I call you, bro?

I don't care about the word "pussification." I care about the connotation. You could have said "dickification" (overlooking that it wouldn't really have the same meaning) and I'd have just as much of a problem with it.

I hold the door open for men and women. It's polite. I also don't much care about benevolent sexism.

The thing that gets me is that people act like these sort of things (i.e. political correctness) are new. They aren't. They're just a different form of how it used to be. Think about it...people lament political correctness while having far more freedom in what they can wear, what they can do sexually, and the things they can believe than the past. In this case, the "restrictions" have just moved. They aren't new.

There aren't any hard feelings. Just expressing my opinion...as you are. I don't take any of this personally. I hope you don't either. It's just discourse.

 

[raised_fisT]

:cheers:

 

[Mojo Ram]

It amuses me when people half my age try to tell me what it was actually like to live in America 20 years ago vs today.


Anyway,
"Pussification" is a fun term to use, but IMO it's more like what we see everyday on this forum in the little box before we type. Think before you post.... Sounds like a good plan to me. Be courteous to others and act like a civilized adult right?...but it also means that you(and you alone) are responsible for what you type(or say or do) and you must own up to he ramifications for what you type(or say or do). I'd like to live my life without having to be reminded(bombarded) by an ever changing American society that feels the need to tighten the grip on what's moral and politically correct and what's not, and what is good for EVERYONE. Says who? My Dad? My Boss? My preacher? My friends? The author of some book? The guy on television? No. I decide what's right or wrong in my world. If i make the wrong choice then it's my responsibility to recognize that and grow as a man. Or woman...sorry

The day-to-day social climate, the in's and the out's of how people felt about the world we lived and breathed in, and the influence of change brought upon by both natural and unnatural social evolution. The bombardment of social influence brought upon by technology, social media is astounding. Things have changed. The rules of moral and social "correctness" are desperately trying to be changed. Everywhere in this Country. Period. Not debatable.
Some for the better and some for the worse. I believe very strongly that it's not headed in the right direction. THAT is debatable.

 

[-X-]

Is that the "pussification of America" or is grown men complaining about how a business arranges children's toy aisles the "pussification of America?"

I mean no offense here but it's such a ridiculous thing to be outraged about. Businesses protect their own ass. What Target is doing is a total non-story. And the "consequences" are pretty much nonexistent...except for giving people a soapbox to stand on and complain about political correctness.

.... or is grown men complaining about grown men complaining the pussification of America?

Let's just put a stop to that ridiculous line of thinking right now. (a) Did you see me complaining about how Target arranged their toy aisle? And (b) did you see me express some outrage over it? Dude, I have way too many things that actually matter to me to be outraged over something like this. This is just another shining example of how one social media complaint can start an avalanche of faux outrage that influences policy.

"Businesses protect their own ass." Those were your words, yeah? Now WHY are they protecting their ass? Because one person decided to complain about the way the store conducts business (the same way it's conducted it for eons), and said person tweeted about how they were personally insulted. Then another person chimes in. Then a bunch of people who had absolutely no problem with the store the day before, started retweeting it. Then the NMO decides this is something that deserves some steam, so it becomes a pressure situation for Target now. And they caved. It's great that you're so tolerant of being shaped by other people's opinions and agendas, but I'm a bit more rigid.

It all started with one guy from California who didn't want his kid to say the pledge of Allegiance because it had the word "God" in it. It's going to end with you having to wear a mauve jumpsuit every day because your choice of clothing is offensive to one person in Slapneck Nevada whose child need not be exposed to gender specific colors so all clothing manufacturers decided to make only one color and style of clothing as a result. You know, "to protect their asses."

Now if my personal involvement in these types of stories is going to prompt you to suggest I'm outraged over them, then maybe you should take it upon yourself to actually read what I'm saying as opposed to climbing atop Mt Superior to drop judgement bombs on me. I'm merely taking part in a conversation about a story that has a much bigger picture than the individual puzzle pieces that are forming it. You're okay with that, I presume. If not, maybe take to social media and tell everyone I'm an intolerant bully who should be banned from the internet. You actually might get your way, and that's not hyperbole.

 

[Robocop]

How does it work? You use the bathroom of the sex you identify as. It's really simple.

This could also be a push for the homosexual agenda. Or even better yet, a push for the let children play with whatever toys they want agenda. I'm appalled. How could parents let their children play with the toys they want? Girls aren't allowed to play with footballs or toy race cars or GI Joes.

theres no need for any kind of push. nobody gives a shit if girls go into the boy section to pick out a toy or vice versa. half the time they end up playing more with the box it came in anyways. this whole thing is bullshit IMO plain and simple. and I have no idea what you're talking about when you say girls can't play with footballs and GI Joes. I didn't realize society was refusing to let them. and I don't give a crap about gays marrying or transgender and sexual having all the equal rights they want. but as far as the bathrooms go you're answer was so "simple" that basically what you're telling me is that if I feel like identifying as a woman all of a sudden that I can put on a wig, a dress, tuck my dick between my legs and walk into any women's bathroom I feel like. and forget about the rest of the majority who wouldn't feel comfortable with it. as long as the minority get what they want right

 

[IowaRam]

 

[Zombie Slayer]

I am honestly anxious to say the very least at how things are going in the future. On the totem poll this Target things is very small. I doubt anyone on here is getting genuinely angry about it. But like X said, one person doesn't want to pledge of allegiance said because it has the word God in it and then schools will stop saying it. This thing with Target is just another example in that line. I've seriously worked in an office where someone was offended by Santa Clause because of their religion, so no more Santa in the office. So where does it end? I don't see an end. People will just keep finding something else to be offended about. If people don't want gender specific titles, then it really is not inconceivable that people will want everyone to wear the same types of clothes as to not be gender specific. Some may say that is crazy but I'm sure someday a school that has uniforms will do this. I just really wonder what things are going to be like twenty years from now. I doubt many people even say much at all if their kids wanted to play with toys that are mainly played with by the opposite gender.

 

[VegasRam]

Every time some "issue" surfaces, be it Caitlyn, or Cecil, or Barbaro, or Target, it's the same mindless twits tweeting phony outrage, just like X said.

Each incident, in and of itself, is relatively harmless, and really of no consequence, but it's the trend, and (in my opinion), the truly sinister power behind it, whether it be the media, government, or some global power broker(s). Orwell's "1984" came out in 1956, 60 years ago, and so impossible to believe at the time. The fear is no longer is that it could happen, it's that it is happening, or imo, has happened.. The sad thing is the Target decision is probably a good idea, but equally probably for the wrong reasons. Even scarier is the thought/speech police currently running things on college campuses, where young men and women are supposed to be learning HOW to think, as opposed to WHAT. Brave new world, boys and girls, it's gonna' get interesting.


BTW, Slapneck is in Arkansas.:shades:

 

[beej]

the Amish lifestyle looks more and more appealing to me every day.