Taking a look at fifth-year options for 2013 first-round picks including Ogletree and T. Austin

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The link that explains 5th-year options for NFL teams can be clicked on below.
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/05/02/nfl-2011-draft-fifth-year-option
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Taking a look at fifth-year options for 2013 first-round picks
Posted by Zac Jackson on April 13, 2016

Teams have until May 2 to decide whether to pick up fifth-year options for players drafted in first round in 2013. We’re tracking each decision that’s already been made, but here’s a closer look at those that have been made and some tough calls that lie ahead.

ALREADY PICKED UP

The Saints picked up the fifth-year option on safetyKenny Vaccaro earlier this week.

Though the Panthers probably aren’t the only team to have their plans made without actually announcing them, Panthers general manager Dave Gettleman said last month that the team will pick up the option on defensive tackle Star Lotulelei, the 14th pick of the 2013 draft.

The Eagles and offensive tackle Lane Johnson already agreed to a new deal.

WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY BE PICKED UP

Among the other easy calls when it comes to fifth-year options are Sheldon Richardson, Ziggy Ansah, Kyle Long, Tyler Eifert, DeAndre Hopkins,Travis Frederick and Alec Ogletree.

Falcons cornerback Desmond Trufant is coming off his first Pro Bowl season and should be in the team’s long-term plans. The 49ers are likely to keep safety Eric Reid, too.

CLOSE CALLS

The top two picks in the 2013 draft were offensive tackles. Neither Eric Fisher norLuke Joeckel has become a star, but the Chiefs and Jaguars might want to just pay up to keep their players for another year rather than let them become free agents. At this point, the Jaguars are probably more likely to pick up Joeckel’s option than the Chiefs are to pick up Fisher’s, but stay tuned.

The Giants will probably keep Justin Pugh, who’s been better since moving inside to guard. The Chargers probably will keep D.J. Fluker, too. Fellow offensive linemenJonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack might be more on the side of unlikely to have their options picked up.

Tavon Austin is a playmaker, and the Rams need all the offense they can get, but it’s no sure thing that the Rams will commit to Austin for another season.

Jarvis Jones became a starting outside linebacker for the Steelers last season, but the Steelers might decide they need the money for other players and not pick up his fifth-year option.

The Broncos will probably pay up to keep Sylvester Williams in the middle of their defense.

While the Vikings are likely to pick up the fifth-year options on defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd and cornerback Xavier Rhodes, their third first-round pick of 2013, Cordarrelle Patterson, will land in the next category and be eligible for free agency after this season.

WON’T BE PICKED UP

The only quarterback selected in the 2013 first round, E.J. Manuel, is a backup with the Bills.

Barkevious Mingo is on his third head coach with the Browns and is back to playing for his first defensive coordinator in Ray Horton. But Mingo hasn’t shown the Browns enough to justify the team paying big bucks to him for 2017.

Packers defensive end Datone Jones has not been a starter and has just eight career sacks.

Jets cornerback Dee Milliner hasn’t been healthy or productive. Raiders cornerback DJ Hayden and Ravens safety Matt Elam figure to be allowed to test free agency, too.

NO DECISION TO MAKE

Dolphins defensive end Dion Jordan served a suspension that froze his contract, meaning the Dolphins have another year before they have to act on his fifth-year option.

Bjoern Werner was a bust with the Colts and was released last month.

Track each fifth-year option decision
 

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These both are no brainers IMO. But I can foresee us trying to work out a long term deal with both of them. We also have the big beast ( Brockers)in the middle that needs signed long term as well! And Tru? Shit we aren't out of the woods yet with signing people.
 

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These both are no brainers IMO. But I can foresee us trying to work out a long term deal with both of them. We also have the big beast ( Brockers)in the middle that needs signed long term as well! And Tru? crap we aren't out of the woods yet with signing people.
I Trust the FO on this!!;)
 

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Not sure they'll do it for Tavon, I'm not sure what the exact number is this year but 5th year option for a WR drafted in the top 10 such as TA was around $11 million last year. Is Tavon's production so far worth $11 million in cap space next season?

The redeeming factor for TA is that he's the only legit, young playmaker we have on offense besides Gurley. So desperation might play into it some. He could have a break out year this season and then we'd regret not doing it. Hopefully we don't develop another young star and then let another team pay him to leave.
 

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These both are no brainers IMO. But I can foresee us trying to work out a long term deal with both of them. We also have the big beast ( Brockers)in the middle that needs signed long term as well! And Tru? crap we aren't out of the woods yet with signing people.

The humungous sized Unknowns ongoing with the pending UFA'cy in less than a year from now with Rams main stars Brockers/Johnson/Ogletree/Tavon Austin throw in the additional March 2017 UFA's of starters Kenny Britt/ Case Keenum/ Akeem Ayers/ Garrett Reynolds/ TJ McDonald, along with Benny Cunningham/Stedman Bailey/Brian Quick should wake up all those "Trade Up" campaigner's. If you trade away the priceless future high draft selections there now possible way to replace these high amounts of Ram departed talents.
 

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personally I kinda dont want them to exercise the 5th year option on ogletree. seems like bad blood waiting to happen with his position change. cant help but be reminded of the jimmy graham mess with the saints with the franchise tag
 

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personally I kinda dont want them to exercise the 5th year option on ogletree. seems like bad blood waiting to happen with his position change. cant help but be reminded of the jimmy graham mess with the saints with the franchise tag

IMO Ogletree has spent much of his time on the field with JL his first 3 season here as a Ram. Tree was also playing the middle of the UGA defense most of the time too. So Tree is used to being one of two Lbers on the field.

With saying that Tree has had the responsibilities of the middle of the field most of the times in college & the NFL is normal. This season Tree will be on the field with a much more dynamic talent another SEC star player named Mark Barron, these two know each other & played each other often in college.

The only real big change is where Tree will now be promoted to the defensive team boat Captain....I'm not thinkin :thinking: that Tree will look at this a bad thing but something real good or even great:love:.
 

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The humungous sized Unknowns ongoing with the pending UFA'cy in less than a year from now with Rams main stars Brockers/Johnson/Ogletree/Tavon Austin throw in the additional March 2017 UFA's of starters Kenny Britt/ Case Keenum/ Akeem Ayers/ Garrett Reynolds/ TJ McDonald, along with Benny Cunningham/Stedman Bailey/Brian Quick should wake up all those "Trade Up" campaigner's. If you trade away the priceless future high draft selections there now possible way to replace these high amounts of Ram departed talents.
Lol this is a different problem we are used to having of drafting well and and keep our talent huh? haha
 

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IMO Ogletree has spent much of his time on the field with JL his first 3 season here as a Ram. Tree was also playing the middle of the UGA defense most of the time too. So Tree is used to being one of two Lbers on the field.

With saying that Tree has had the responsibilities of the middle of the field most of the times in college & the NFL is normal. This season Tree will be on the field with a much more dynamic talent another SEC star player named Mark Barron, these two know each other & played each other often in college.

The only real big change is where Tree will now be promoted to the defensive team boat Captain....I'm not thinkin :thinking: that Tree will look at this a bad thing but something real good or even great:love:.

think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I have no doubt Ogletree will be successful as a MLB. my problem is that the 5th year option is based on the pay of other players around the league at the same position. His whole career he has played OLB but now is moving to MLB, which causes a problem of which position does he get paid as, a MLB or OLB? I dont have the numbers in front of me but im guessing its over 1m worth of money so id imagine there will be a fight of some sort over that.
 

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Lol this is a different problem we are used to having of drafting well and and keep our talent huh? haha

You seem to one of the few members here that really sees the pending loss of Brockers as a bona fide real problem. The size of a new Trumaine Johnson deal will be just as large as the possible Brockers deal just lurking out there in the unknowns. Followed by Ogletree. Austin & McDonald. The issues right now is Rams do not have a legit NT behind the 6-5/ 327 pound Brockers period! If Tru were departed now who would replace him as starter? Sensabaugh? CB Roberson is a UFA like Tru in a yr. who would replace Ogletree @ MLB'er ? Hager?

Looks to me it makes very good smart sense to keep our 2016 draft selections to be utilized to insulate the upcoming 2017 Ram team from being talent depleted by free agency....there is fast end to cap funds in trying to sign these star type of 2017 Ram UFA's. Ignore if you want but its not going to be nice to see what the 2017 & beyond Ram team will look like if we trade up & we replace these talents with UDFA's.
 

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think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I have no doubt Ogletree will be successful as a MLB. my problem is that the 5th year option is based on the pay of other players around the league at the same position. His whole career he has played OLB but now is moving to MLB, which causes a problem of which position does he get paid as, a MLB or OLB? I dont have the numbers in front of me but im guessing its over 1m worth of money so id imagine there will be a fight of some sort over that.

Understand fully now thanks. I do not foresee an issue here myself but I think that Ogletree's extension has to be made sometime in October this season. By then (Month into the regular season) the Ram Org will know just how well & serious Tree undertook his new leadership role. How do you think Tree will do?
 

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You seem to one of the few members here that really sees the pending loss of Brockers as a bona fide real problem. The size of a new Trumaine Johnson deal will be just as large as the possible Brockers deal just lurking out there in the unknowns. Followed by Ogletree. Austin & McDonald. The issues right now is Rams do not have a legit NT behind the 6-5/ 327 pound Brockers period! If Tru were departed now who would replace him as starter? Sensabaugh? CB Roberson is a UFA like Tru in a yr. who would replace Ogletree @ MLB'er ? Hager?

Looks to me it makes very good smart sense to keep our 2016 draft selections to be utilized to insulate the upcoming 2017 Ram team from being talent depleted by free agency....there is fast end to cap funds in trying to sign these star type of 2017 Ram UFA's. Ignore if you want but its not going to be nice to see what the 2017 & beyond Ram team will look like if we trade up & we replace these talents with UDFA's.
Hell yeah it's a real problem. The core of our Defense is our DT's and make no mistake about they are. Quinn and Long say as much because for them to have success our DT's need to push the middle of the pocket up into the QB's face. I see losing Brockers as not to fun a day. I could honestly see with this deep DT class us picking up a DT with one of our two 2nd rounders if we don't use both to trade up with the upcoming possible loss of Brockers. Sigh... hope it doesn't come to that.

The good note is by this time next year we will have quite a bit of projected cap money to spend which I'm sure will help us tie up 3 of the 4 FA's Tree, Tavon, Brockers, and Tru. I hoenstly see Brockers not making it out of those 4 TBH.
 

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His whole career he has played OLB but now is moving to MLB, which causes a problem of which position does he get paid as, a MLB or OLB? I dont have the numbers in front of me but im guessing its over 1m worth of money so id imagine there will be a fight of some sort over that.

In regards to fifth year option money there is no difference between linebacker positions. The fifth-year salary for people picked 11-32 is the average of the third through twenty-fifth highest salaries at a player's position. And the linebacker position is lumped into one pool and not distinguished by outside or middle. So his pay wouldn't matter in that regard. As far as long term contract I would think a MLB would expect a slightly larger salary over an OLB as they are the center of the defense and less of them in the NFL.

Anyway, this article is really good at explaining the fifth year option plus has a chart of last years salaries for such players.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...fifth-year-options-for-2012-first-round-picks
 

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These both are no brainers IMO. But I can foresee us trying to work out a long term deal with both of them. We also have the big beast ( Brockers)in the middle that needs signed long term as well! And Tru? crap we aren't out of the woods yet with signing people.

This situation is what makes trading away picks to move up to one so hard. We need 2-3 replacements if we can not sign all of these players.
 

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Tavon Austin 5th yr option cost near 11 million @ $10,971,000:shocked:
Alec Ogletree 5th yr option costs over @ $7.751,000 million

May 3rd 2017
Greg Robinson 5th yr option $11,096,000 million:huh:

Aaron Donald 5th yr option $6,146,000 million
 

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This situation is what makes trading away picks to move up to one so hard. We need 2-3 replacements if we can not sign all of these players.
Yes sir. We'll figure it out. We just need that damn QB and I have a feeling everything else will work it self out
 

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They gotta pick up Austin's option. He's a electric punt returner and a playmaker on offense. Worth the money filling 2 sometimes 3 spots....KR/RB/WR
 

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I don't think we should pay him that option, but we definitely need to resign Austin to a extension.

Ogletree is definitely worth keeping for 7 million, and it gives us leverage for a longer deal.
 

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I brought up Austin in particular in conversation re: using him to trade up for a QB. He has excellent value still, and my take is that IF you think he's going to be a problem to sign why not utilize his value to make this team better?

Snead is going to bring in at least a couple wideouts in this draft. He will be able to draft another next year. So IMO it's not the end of the world if Austin rolls out, because he's just not that guy you can dictate to a defense with. He's that guy who on top of a deep WR corps could flat-out kill defenses.

If the Rams were to trade up and use Austin as the central piece along with this year's 15 overall to get a QB, they'd be able to hold onto both round 2 picks and nab a couple excellent young receivers who fit what this offense is intended to be: a power unit. They could go crazy and pick up 2a. Shepard, 2b. Boyd, 3. Caroo or similar, mix in a TE if they wanted, or still add two WRs while nabbing one of this class' deep DT position.

Oh and while I don't see the Ravens as a trade down partner due to their LT need... They also need WR. SO if the Rams were to offer 15 overall and Tavon for the 6 pick I suspect the deal would get done. Remember Tavon is the hometown kid for Baltimore.

Not pushing hard for them to do this, btw, as I do like Tavon. But just pointing out it has merit.