Take the Sam's last chance talk somewhere else

[duckhunter]

We will be unveiling those people tonight.

Will they have clothes on? If they don't, I won't miss it.

 

[V3]

We will be unveiling those people tonight.

I'll freely admit that I voted for 0 simply because Angry Ram started a thread saying how he was upset that someone would vote for zero. The tally was getting higher as he posted and you could see him turning into the Hulk. I thought it was funny so I added to the fire so I could see his Hulk Smash! Who wouldn't want to see that?

Do any of you honestly think people believe the Rams will only get zero wins?

 

[Dagonet]

Not trying to be an arsehole or anything, but we ARE aloud to have opinions. When it comes to our favorite football team's starting QB who has not lived up to his expectations as the 1st overall pick and has had some injury problems, going on his 5th year people have a right to express how they feel about Bradford and the QB situation. I support Sam and I hope he's our guy, but he really has to show us something this year or his job could possibly be in jeopardy in 2015.

All I ask out of Bradford is to improve from his best season. I'd like to see him throw 25+ TD's, keep the INT's at a minimum, stay healthy, and help this team win games.

2012 (16 games):
328/551 (59.5%)
3,702 yards
21 TD's
13 INT's
82.6 QB Rating.

2013 (7 games)
159/262 (60.7%)
1,687 yards
14 TD's
4 INT's
90.9 QB Rating

Obviously was on pace for a very good season, his best NFL season last year. Even though he's coming off a bad injury, I expect his numbers to increase from last years impressive start.

You meant allowed? Or meant aloud for yelling? Testing here more or less though for the FB page.

 

[A55VA6]

You meant allowed? Or meant aloud for yelling? Testing here more or less though for the FB page.

Oops, yeah I meant allowed. Must have had a typo and it auto-corrected haha.

 

[Dagonet]

Oops, yeah I meant allowed. Must have had a typo and it auto-corrected haha.

No biggie man. I wasn't trying to be the grammar Nazi.. lol I was just wanting to reply to a post in this thread to test on FB. I saw that and was like sweet.. Believe me, you can correct my grammar most anytime when I post. Meaning I am bad. All good brother. lol

 

[fancents86]

Not sure how you can talk negative about a qb that played better than some of the top qbs in the league last year, Brady included, and only played half a season at that. Also Imagine if our receivers hadn't made us 2nd in the league with dropped balls...

 

[laramsoriginal]

Personally, I believe we have lost too many very good poster because of the homey attitude.

I've been neutral on Bradford since the day we drafted him.
I've limited my discussion to areas he needs to improve and commended him when he has. I'm not willing to automatically accept losing for any reason. My experience in life is that reasons and rationalizing losses are often the ugly sisters to excuses and a willingness to accept lower standards. If he was kicking ass we would have been 5-1 or 6-0 when he was injured. That would have been kicking ass.

I believe the GM and coaches have done a very good job of changing the direction of the team for the most part. If Bradford is such a great leader then he and the rest of the team need to bring home the bacon. We just haven't seen it consistently particularly in the only category that matters, wins and losses, and until we do, it will be discussed no matter what one may think.

Hell, if he can't do it, then Snisher will find someone who can, it's their job. Heck, we could argue over how long the leash is that Fisher has on him: one year, two, or however long. That's why it's a discussion board.

Great post.

 

[iced]

Will they have clothes on? If they don't, I won't miss it.

would love to stand to next to 'em - in comparison to them, i'd make an black man look Asian

 

[oldramfan]

I know when I signed up for this site there was something there about support our guys. If you aren't going to do that go somewhere else.

All this crap about Sam's last chance, make or break year, he gets paid too much, take it to the PD.

Bradford is a team leader and was kicking ass last year and will again in 2014.

Hey thanks for letting us know you're a homer. I've been a Ram fan a long time and I say I'm entitled to my opinion. I used to support Sam but in 4 years he has shown very little in terms of leadership and just plain wins. I believe this is his last year as a Ram if he doesn't get his act together and lead us someplace besides out of the playoffs and him injured on the sidelines. I appreciate your fervor but Sam needs to prove himself before I will jump back on his bandwagon.

 

[blackbart]

Hey thanks for letting us know you're a homer. I've been a Ram fan a long time and I say I'm entitled to my opinion. I used to support Sam but in 4 years he has shown very little in terms of leadership and just plain wins. I believe this is his last year as a Ram if he doesn't get his act together and lead us someplace besides out of the playoffs and him injured on the sidelines. I appreciate your fervor but Sam needs to prove himself before I will jump back on his bandwagon.

Homer me??? Yeah no doubt about it. You can't leave the rest of what has happened with the team out when analyzing Bradford's performance. The team was the biggest POS in NFL history when he got here and the injuries have come because of the crappy oline he has been forced to play behind.

 

[fearsomefour]

It comes down to the same old bottom line....where is the better option? I don't see one either in FA or in the draft.
To me Bradford has improved at avoiding sacks and has never turned the ball over much. The biggest thing propelling him forward may be the improved run game and hopefully more consistent D. There will still stretches last year when the O just disappeared. That is not completely on Bradford.
With a FA market that is not going to see any prime QB hit the market and a draft that will provide players that need work I ask yet again, what is the other option?

 

[fearsomefour]

Hey thanks for letting us know you're a homer. I've been a Ram fan a long time and I say I'm entitled to my opinion. I used to support Sam but in 4 years he has shown very little in terms of leadership and just plain wins. I believe this is his last year as a Ram if he doesn't get his act together and lead us someplace besides out of the playoffs and him injured on the sidelines. I appreciate your fervor but Sam needs to prove himself before I will jump back on his bandwagon.

Not a leader how?
I've never read there has been any issue with Sam. Everything I have read about Bradford indicates he is always there and a hard worker.
If you want to talk about completion %, not pushing the ball downfield, taking sacks ect, ok, there can be a discussion.
But, saying he does not have leadership qualities (not everyone is a fist pumper, spike the ball, yell for the camera) is based on nothing. No one on this board knows whether he is or not.
I would assume he is based more on things going badly under the first administration and not hearing a peep coming out about Sam, as opposed to what typically happens....see Washington last year.

 

[ramsince62]

Everyone has a right to an opinion. But as the joke goes.....those opinions are like........ Yeah we know the old line. I think it's laughable that Sam's performance(s) have been disected, bisected, homogenized, euthanized, demonized and messiahized.... but so far it's like deciding who wins a ball game during the first quarter. There's no real data to support any of these criteria. He's been mediocre. With a side order of unlucky. And most want to boil him in oli because he "hasn't lived up to his contract" and we didn't get the performance that contract should stand for......
It wasn't his fault he got that contract. And you can't fault the Rams for drafting him. (Because w/ the same breath are you going to try to say Suh has been worth his contract?!?!?!?.....neither one has. But those were the rules of engagement at the time.......and at least Sam wasn't Sanchez and known for the "butt fumble"......).
It is what it is. I support Sam because he's the QB of my team. He's the guy Jeff Fisher has given the keys to. And whether he throws for 40 TDs or not....ain't the "breaking point". It's whether or not the team moves forward w/ him at the helm and I don't know anyone here... (unless Mr. Demoff is perusing by....) that has any say in the matter, no matter which side of the fence you are on.

Go Rams! Go Sam!

Who are we talking about, Obozo or Bradford?

 

[Mojo Ram]

When Bradford starts kissing his biceps after a TD pass we'll know he's arrived as a leader.

 

[ramsince62]

If the stats speak for themselves, then one isn't looking too deep for answers.

Curious which QB's you've seen do more with less than the Rams have had on offense since 2010?

I thought that I was clear about being a fan of 52 years, not 4. Naturally those observations included that entire period and league. If you wish to take a vote in a dark closet, that's a different matter. I'm in no way an anti-Bradford proponent, at the same time I believe that there are legitimate concerns surrounding both his performance and health, not to mention his "return on investment" or where that $68+ million might have gone instead.

Let's just hope that Bradford finally does begin to pay back a return on investment in year 3 of the Fisher era. In the meantime let's get a good prospect in here just in case.

 

[Mojo Ram]

This just in: Getting rid of Bradford at this point guarantees a full refund of his $50 million dollar contract to our 2014 salary cap

 

[bomebadeeda]

Who are we talking about, Obozo or Bradford?

Por Que?

 

[blackbart]

I thought that I was clear about being a fan of 52 years, not 4. Naturally those observations included that entire period and league. If you wish to take a vote in a dark closet, that's a different matter. I'm in no way an anti-Bradford proponent, at the same time I believe that there are legitimate concerns surrounding both his performance and health, not to mention his "return on investment" or where that $68+ million might have gone instead.

Let's just hope that Bradford finally does begin to pay back a return on investment in year 3 of the Fisher era. In the meantime let's get a good prospect in here just in case.

The money would have gone to whomever else they might have chosen with that #1 pick because that is how the game was being played when that draft happened.

As for his injures both happened because of breakdowns in the oline, a bad ankle sprain when someone rolled up on him and a bad fall after being chased from the pocket. I agree with drafting a developmental guy but even if they hit the lottery that guy would not be ready to take Bradford's place before 2016 if then.

 

[moklerman]

I thought that I was clear about being a fan of 52 years, not 4. Naturally those observations included that entire period and league. If you wish to take a vote in a dark closet, that's a different matter. I'm in no way an anti-Bradford proponent, at the same time I believe that there are legitimate concerns surrounding both his performance and health, not to mention his "return on investment" or where that $68+ million might have gone instead.

Let's just hope that Bradford finally does begin to pay back a return on investment in year 3 of the Fisher era. In the meantime let's get a good prospect in here just in case.

I didn't say you were anti-Bradford, I'm just curious who you've seen do more with less. Bradford's been with the Rams since 2010 and since 2009, their offense has been pretty anemic and IMO, not laden with talent(that can stay on the field anyway).

You seem to be hung up on his contract so I think I have an idea about your POV. I don't agree with it, especially if your concerns are return on investment. I mean, if you think that Bradford hasn't been "worth the money" then we're looking at this from very different angles. No matter what Bradford did, he wouldn't be worth the investment so there's really no conversation there. That's why they changed how they pay rookies. None of them were ever worth it.

 

[iced]

What Sam has had in his few years is pretty similar to what Bulger had during his last few seasons, minus holt.

as the talent around the QB goes, so does the QB. When it declines, so does the qb's production.