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All this noise about McVay the wonder boy has been figured out is not true. And those that are saying we need to get rid of him now is just plain dumb. First you need to realize that more than half the league is running his offense. Because it’s a copycat league. The last 2yrs teams took 2 good offensive coaches away from us. Leaving us with Waldron as our passing game coordinator. Honestly it’s just time for McVay to hire some new blood coaches that are innovative and creative. It took the whole league 2yrs to figure out Mcvay. And honestly if the line was not a mess and Gurley was healthy I really don’t think they have him totally figured out. This year is hands are tied up because he don’t trust his offense line. Because no trust in the line means less running and that means less play action plays. It’s no coincidence we went from the #1 play action team to almost dead last in play action. McVay has not become dumber folks in less than a year. I know he has a answer for this 6-1 defense teams are throwing at him every week too. I bet when the line gets right we will be just fine. Because right now we suck at run blocking and pass protection.

Quick question for all that want a new coach. Please tell me who we can get that is better?
 

IBruce80

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No new coach. I stick with McVay.
Keep Goff, Gurley, and don't trade Donald either.
A lot of talk about that now.
We've taken a gamble by sacrificing our OL and it hasn't paid off.

Some players and staff will be for the chopping block judging by the aggressive trades this organisation has been known to make.
I don't think we see Wade next season.
 

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They just need to get back to being more physical. This team is too finesse. Its like a basketball team that jacks up 3's with no rebounding.

Add a FB... Get some more size at C, get the play action back in the offense that way and they will be fine.

Defensive line needs more athleticism. Donald is on his own. Would like to see the 4-3 again if possible or get some 5 tech DTs that can rush a passer and be stout in the run game.
 

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All this noise about McVay the wonder boy has been figured out is not true. And those that are saying we need to get rid of him now is just plain dumb. First you need to realize that more than half the league is running his offense. Because it’s a copycat league. The last 2yrs teams took 2 good offensive coaches away from us. Leaving us with Waldron as our passing game coordinator. Honestly it’s just time for McVay to hire some new blood coaches that are innovative and creative. It took the whole league 2yrs to figure out Mcvay. And honestly if the line was not a mess and Gurley was healthy I really don’t think they have him totally figured out. This year is hands are tied up because he don’t trust his offense line. Because no trust in the line means less running and that means less play action plays. It’s no coincidence we went from the #1 play action team to almost dead last in play action. McVay has not become dumber folks in less than a year. I know he has a answer for this 6-1 defense teams are throwing at him every week too. I bet when the line gets right we will be just fine. Because right now we suck at run blocking and pass protection.

Quick question for all that want a new coach. Please tell me who we can get that is better?
In my experience, this is pretty common for franchises that suffer years of futility and then have a meteoric rise. Unfortunately this isn’t the only time I’ve seen this. Things will balance out. I for one am just happy the Rams aren’t on track for 3 wins. I don’t want McVay to go. I do wish they would have paid more attention to the OL though.
 

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McVay is still our guy. But he beat not Fischer himself here. He needs to hire good quality from the outside.

We need some players to take some serious pay cuts or be gone so that McVay can get an offensive line in here to give Goff time to throw. He’s not good enough to have a bad line.

I put more of the blame for this team on Snead. He’s given away our future with a win now attitude but forgot that we need an O Line to be productive.
 

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In my experience, this is pretty common for franchises that suffer years of futility and then have a meteoric rise. Unfortunately this isn’t the only time I’ve seen this. Things will balance out. I for one am just happy the Rams aren’t on track for 3 wins. I don’t want McVay to go. I do wish they would have paid more attention to the OL though.
I can’t blame McVay and Snead for not paying attention to the OL. When McVay took over in 2017 the Rams he inherited the worst OL in the league. He and Kromer was able to turn it around in 1yr with just a couple moves adding Sullivan and Big Wit. I think Kromer underestimated the development of Allen and Noteboom. I think now they know we need more veterans on the OL. Can’t blame McVay for trusting one of the best OL coaches in the business opinions on the development of the younger players.
 

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People do realize that it took the league 3 years to figure out the Greatest Show on Turf. And now the league has figured out McVay's offense in 2 years, plus the o-line has been pure trash this season. Yet we are still a 6-5 team with a chance to finish above .500.


So for all you spoiled never watched the Rams during the fisher, spags years please stop with the fire McVay. I've watched the Greatest Show on Turf and i watched the years we were the laughing stock of the league. McVay Goff and Gurley will be fine. Its just not our year plain and simple.

Time for McVay to go back to the drawing board maybe include some I-formation with a lead blocking FB to help Gurley. But please believe this team will be back.
 

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No new coach. I stick with McVay.
Keep Goff, Gurley, and don't trade Donald either.
A lot of talk about that now.
We've taken a gamble by sacrificing our OL and it hasn't paid off.

Some players and staff will be for the chopping block judging by the aggressive trades this organisation has been known to make.
I don't think we see Wade next season.
I hope we don't see Wade next season unless it's in a retirement home.
 

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McVay is in his 3rd year. He took us to the Super Bowl in only his 2nd. We have a winning record at 6-5. Whoever thinks McVay should be gone is insane. This is what I don’t like about winning. The fans become more hostile when we lose.

This isn’t our year and that’s ok.
 

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Last year the media called the Rams “all in” for a SB run. They dubbed us this way because big trades and big vet names brought in at a big cost (cap and draft picks). Problem I have is now you’ve gone and traded 2 #1 picks for a corner that will not transfer to winning football. At this rate it may take a few years to “get right” and by then we are deep in on a high priced corner. Not long after that we will be looking to trade him away at a loss, like Peters. Big trade cost for Ramsey, Peters and Cooks will be a huge handicap going forward. Dare you say I lie.
 

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Still pissed ....

But McVay should understand that he is at a crossroad, ( my opinion- which means jack shit). He is the Head Coach, not just the Off coordinator. Team Management , Team preparation, Team make-up is what he is responsible for. He failed and was punked last night.

I am not advocating a coaching change, but we will get a coaching change if he keeps trotting out that mess on Sunday.

The business side of this will dictate the change. The shiny new stadium will not bring in paying Rams fans if the product on the field is s%&t.
 

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Half the league is running mcvay's offense and yet he's struggling to succeed with it ? I like Mcvay and I doubt he's going anywhere, but dude needs to bring in a new offensive coordinator asap. Most coaches started out as an offensive or defensive coordinator, but most of them still hire a guy to over see those units. He needs to find someone who can bury themselves into the offense week after week. And for the love of God do whatever you can to fix this offensive line.
 

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Still pissed ....

But McVay should understand that he is at a crossroad, ( my opinion- which means jack shit). He is the Head Coach, not just the Off coordinator. Team Management , Team preparation, Team make-up is what he is responsible for. He failed and was punked last night.

I am not advocating a coaching change, but we will get a coaching change if he keeps trotting out that mess on Sunday.

The business side of this will dictate the change. The shiny new stadium will not bring in paying Rams fans if the product on the field is s%&t.
Not to mention the Lakers are HOT right now and the dodgers will probably be good again. If you had to spend 150 dollars on a ticket, you'd probably rather go to one of them at this point.
 

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It's not the coaching. This time around it's the way the team was stacked with flaws that they could not overcome. Snead accelerated the roster last year to take a shot and missed (not blaming him here either). He then gambled with a youth movement on the OL and missed this season (not blaming him here either they had to get younger). Now they have to circle the wagons and adjust this roster to improve the OL with less draft capital.

That's where we are. We have some flaws that are keeping this team from being what they were. Other teams know it, and McVay isn't going to be able to scheme his way out of it.

I guarantee you guys some things here...

1. McVay is going to get to work and address the shortfalls. He is a top competitor and this will make him better.

2. Goff is going to work to improve and will emerge from this season wiser and more capable. Let everyone take a dump all over him now. One of his best traits is resilience and that will keep him from suffering battered QB syndrome.

3. They don't have to fix every problem with the team to get back in contention. Regaining run/pass balance on offense is doable with their resources and the FA market. Finding a CB to pair with Ramsey or at the least improve the top of our depth chart is doable.
 

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Sorry but I'm not buying into the "this wasn't our year stuff". Not with an organization that has produced this kind of year over and over again. No way I'm buying 2 winning seasons is ok out of every 20. Not doing it this time. If they don't put out a winner then I won't watch or care anymore. I've had it with the years of incompetence. I and a bunch of you guys have been loyal fans through it all and we deserve better than ooops we're sorry, we will do better next year.

I'm not going to pat Mcvay on the back and pretend he did a good job this year. Because he didn't. He took the heart of the team and best RB in the league and totally neutered him. And after every single week of not using him fed us the same old line of bullshit just like Martz used to do. "that was my bad", "should of used him more". Then turn around and change nothing. That is an absolutely awful job of coaching. Just no way around it. For those that are gonna say Gurley is hurt blah blah. Well then use one of the other RB's on the team. That's why they are on the roster.
 

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Team and organizations take control of their own destiny. This could have been "our Year". Yes we have had unfortunate injuries. missed opportunities and some bad luck but failure is team wide and yes Les and Mc are as culpable as the players. Maybe Mcvay is taking on to much responsibility. I believe Sean is smart enough not sure if he is wise enough, he needs to adapt. This team is not consistently prepared with a winning game plan. Sometimes you can't just hope to out execute or be more physical as a coach you must create a plan that helps the players succeed.
 

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It's time for an OC. McVay needs to realize his way is not working anymore. You can put your head in the sand all you want and say he hasn't been figured out, but since we played the bears last season, we have not been the same team. The oline for the past 2 games has not been the problem. I saw the line give Goff plenty of time to make a decent play and they still could not get it done. I will say we do need more beef on the line, though. Baltimore's line looked like behemoths compared to ours. So while theres work to be done, it is more than capable of producing more than 6 points.

Every game I see the same plays called, we are very predictable. 3rd and long? We go screen. Gurleys in the backfield? Hes either running it up the middle or blocking. Nothing is new.

This starts with McVay. I'm not calling for a new coach, but all those who say he will figure it out...well the season is almost over. And unless he admits he cannot do this alone anymore, then be prepared for some more bs. Bc it has more to do than with the line. I think it goes all the way back to training camp when he just went through the motions. Sure it's great in case of injury, but if our oline had gone up against our starters on D, we would have known it was not ready to trot out on a field.
 

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No one is going anywhere. You don't make wholesale changes over one bad season. McVay is going nowhere. Snead is going nowhere. Neither is Goff, Gurley or Donald.

They just have to figure out what caused the failure and work to correct it. They have 5 games left to work on things and figure out how to get the offense going. Then they have the whole offseason to evaluate the needs and see what is available to them.

I know the pundits are going to say they're screwed with the long term contracts. McVay has been figured out. Just pressure Goff into mistakes. Yada yada yada. But most times they're opinions are proven wrong when the season comes around. The team they crown turns into a flop or the team they derided turns out pretty good. We'll just have to put up with all the talk during the offseason.