Special Teams will once again ruin anything else.

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PhillyRam said:
Watching this, the blocked kick against Buffalo was heading to the same spot the Giants & Eagles misses were headed.
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Maybe? Not defending him.. just not gonna bail out the blocking.

Kicks often start looking they're going in one direction but take that sharp initial turn and straighten out.. so.. who knows?
I know he biffed another one in that game and screwed up kickoffs and FGs in other games.

Had to go.
 
Pupped said:
Maybe? Not defending him.. just not gonna bail out the blocking.

Kicks often start looking they're going in one direction but take that sharp initial turn and straighten out.. so.. who knows?
I know he biffed another one in that game and screwed up kickoffs and FGs in other games.

Had to go.
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No, blocking was an issue. Just shows they failed on every level on that play and another reason why Mevis was let go. They probably saw on tape that he would have missed that one too.
 
Let's be honest, Sean McVay may be furious at Mevis and the special teams, but he should really be mad at himself. He has never priorized special teams and it has been biting us for years now.

The fact is that McVay knew - or should have known - that Mevis' accuracy and range is questionable anywhere beyond 40 yards. For McVay to not go for the td in overtime with an offence that was cooking, and to instead go for a 48 yard field goal attempt with a weak- legged kicker was poor judgement and serious coaching malpractice.

The fact is that the effective range of today's NFL kickers is more than 50 yards and often up to and more than 60. Mevis should have been replaced in the offseason because his range in today's NFL is wholly unacceptable, particularly with so many NFL games coming down to late field goals.

Looking at other aspects of special teams, the Rams kicking coverage teams are abysmal, the Rams don't even have a gunner - unless you consider the atrocious Emmanuel Forbes a gunner.

When was the last time that a Rams player was even within 15 to 20 yards of the opponent's punt returner when they field the ball. There is no coverage lane integrity or funneling of the returner to coverage.

Which other team doesn't have a gunner? The position is important enough that the Rams either should have drafted a depth running back, receiver or defensive back who can fill that role.

Instead of drafting and keeping the sluggishly slow depth receivers Konata Mumpfield and Jordan Whittington who offer nothing as receivers, the Rams should have brought in some speedy and elusive depth players who can provide some decent punt and kick returns for a change.

Special teams is important enough that special teams impact players should be raided from other teams' practice squads if players with specific special teams skills are not on the roster.

Let's not pretend that his lack of focus on the importance of special teams is a new thing for McVay. Remember in past seasons when Cooper Kupp and Kyren Williams were used just to fair catch every punt, thus foregoing a typical 8 to 10 yards on each change of possession.

McVay has brought joy back to being a Rams fan and I love McVay's dynamic drafting attitude and offensive attack mentality, but I am genuinely puzzled by his lack of focus on special teams.

It's costing us games.
 
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The new kicker is like, "Hey, so when do we get to practice special teams?"

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NorthernRam said:
Let's be honest, Sean McVay may be furious at Mevis and the special teams, but he should really be mad at himself. He has never priorized special teams and it has been biting us for years now.

The fact is that McVay knew - or should have known - that Mevis' accuracy and range is questionable anywhere beyond 40 yards. For McVay to not go for the td in overtime with an offence that was cooking, and to instead go for a 48 yard field goal attempt with a weak- legged kicker was poor judgement and serious coaching malpractice.

The fact is that the effective range of today's NFL kickers is more than 50 yards and often up to and more than 60. Mevis should have been replaced in the offseason because his range in today's NFL is wholly unacceptable, particularly with so many NFL games coming down to late field goals.

Looking at other aspects of special teams, the Rams kicking coverage teams are abysmal, the Rams don't even have a gunner - unless you consider the atrocious Emmanuel Forbes a gunner.

When was the last time that a Rams player was even within 15 to 20 yards of the opponent's punt returner when they field the ball. There is no coverage lane integrity or funneling of the returner to coverage.

Which other team doesn't have a gunner? The position is important enough that the Rams either should have drafted a depth running back, receiver or defensive back who can fill that role.

Instead of drafting and keeping the sluggishly slow depth receivers Konata Mumpfield and Jordan Whittington who offer nothing as receivers, the Rams should have brought in some speedy and elusive depth players who can provide some decent punt and kick returns for a change.

Special teams is important enough that special teams impact players should be raided from other teams' practice squads if players with specific special teams skills are not on the roster.

Let's not pretend that his lack of focus on the importance of special teams is a new thing for McVay. Remember in past seasons when Cooper Kupp and Kyren Williams were used just to fair catch every punt, thus foregoing a typical 8 to 10 yards on each change of possession.

McVay has brought joy back to being a Rams fan and I love McVay's dynamic drafting attitude and offensive attack mentality, but I am genuinely puzzled by his lack of focus on special teams.

It's costing us games.
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Your last comment about McVay was spot on, but being a fan since 67 this situation is so very ram like. It's always something. This one is tougher because the problem is so glaring that not being addressed or taken seriously is a very ram thing to do. Makes you wonder wtf?
 
0311rams said:
Your last comment about McVay was spot on, but being a fan since 67 this situation is so very ram like. It's always something. This one is tougher because the problem is so glaring that not being addressed or taken seriously is a very ram thing to do. Makes you wonder wtf?
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They address it, just not addressing it effectively
 
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Coach will stay with players to a point, but if you're not improving like Mevis then you are on the clock. I know Mevis missed some FG's but that kickoff out of bounds in the Philly game may have started his exit clock in the mind of Coach McVay.
 
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NorthernRam said:
Let's be honest, Sean McVay may be furious at Mevis and the special teams, but he should really be mad at himself. He has never priorized special teams and it has been biting us for years now.

The fact is that McVay knew - or should have known - that Mevis' accuracy and range is questionable anywhere beyond 40 yards. For McVay to not go for the td in overtime with an offence that was cooking, and to instead go for a 48 yard field goal attempt with a weak- legged kicker was poor judgement and serious coaching malpractice.

The fact is that the effective range of today's NFL kickers is more than 50 yards and often up to and more than 60. Mevis should have been replaced in the offseason because his range in today's NFL is wholly unacceptable, particularly with so many NFL games coming down to late field goals.

Looking at other aspects of special teams, the Rams kicking coverage teams are abysmal, the Rams don't even have a gunner - unless you consider the atrocious Emmanuel Forbes a gunner.

When was the last time that a Rams player was even within 15 to 20 yards of the opponent's punt returner when they field the ball. There is no coverage lane integrity or funneling of the returner to coverage.

Which other team doesn't have a gunner? The position is important enough that the Rams either should have drafted a depth running back, receiver or defensive back who can fill that role.

Instead of drafting and keeping the sluggishly slow depth receivers Konata Mumpfield and Jordan Whittington who offer nothing as receivers, the Rams should have brought in some speedy and elusive depth players who can provide some decent punt and kick returns for a change.

Special teams is important enough that special teams impact players should be raided from other teams' practice squads if players with specific special teams skills are not on the roster.

Let's not pretend that his lack of focus on the importance of special teams is a new thing for McVay. Remember in past seasons when Cooper Kupp and Kyren Williams were used just to fair catch every punt, thus foregoing a typical 8 to 10 yards on each change of possession.

McVay has brought joy back to being a Rams fan and I love McVay's dynamic drafting attitude and offensive attack mentality, but I am genuinely puzzled by his lack of focus on special teams.

It's costing us games.
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We had a chance to steal Saheed from the shit hawks. And IMO, the shit hawks suck because they let Kenneth Walker get away
 
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The Rams can't be afraid to put starters on ST plays, Corum should be fielding punts. Some of our fastest defenders should be out there. This is do or die time.
 
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Steve808 said:
And while he missed only one last season, it may have cost us the season finale against the shit hawks. And it was 48 yards, not 61 yards out
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Yeah, it was a big miss, that is for sure. If Grupe does not work out, next season I would like them to allocate funds for the kicker & punter accordingly, but my bet is the does not happen, but they will draft both or maybe they actually sign Chase McLaughlin if the Buccaneers are unable to keep him.
 
DzRams said:
I disagree. Firing the ST coordinator will send a message,
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What kind of message?

Do you think there's anybody on special teams or, for that matter, at the organisation as a whole who doesn't get the message that McVay wants to succeed?

There are a variety of messages that it could send, one of which is "I'm going to give you five games to figure this shit out, otherwise you're out."

I'm not sure that's a message that McVay wants to send because it smacks of crap reactive leadership.
 
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You know what's weird? I mean besides fart porn? Has any team ever had two walk off FG's blocked in consecutive years like we have in the Philly and bills game? As we're setting up to kick that FG all the scenarios were going thru my mind including Mevis falling and slipping before he can kick it, then the snap, it's blocked. No words. No I can't believe it exclamations. Just a yeah that figures. Just curious if anyone who was watching thought it was going to be good. Give a thumbs up if you thought it was going to be good.
 
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You know what's weird? I mean besides fart porn? Has any team ever had two walk off FG's blocked in consecutive years like we have in the Philly and bills game? As we're setting up to kick that FG all the scenarios were going thru my mind including Mevis falling and slipping before he can kick it, then the snap, it's blocked. No words. No I can't believe it exclamations. Just a yeah that figures. Just curious if anyone who was watching thought it was going to be good. Give a thumbs up if you thought it was going to be good.
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My cable went out for about five minutes as the Rams were driving down the field in overtime. While I was fumbling to get it back, my only thought was I sure as shit hope they drive down and score a TD because a field goal will be too much to ask for. Sure enough when it came back…field goal blocked…Bill’s driving down for game winning FG and I got to watch yet another defeat ripped from the jaws of victory.
 
KICK OFFS
Rams opponents starting field position post kick off - 33.6 yard line
Rams starting field position post kick off - 26.8 yard line

LEAGUE AVERAGE 30.9


PUNT RETURNS
Rams opponents average yards per punt return -14.3 Yards
Rams average punt return 9.0 Yards

LEAGUE AVERAGE 10.3
 
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