Sorry Tavon, Sorry Alec

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The Rammer

The Rammer

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The first two pre-season games I seen so many negative comments about these two and concern and people going crazy over 2, yes, that's right 2 pre season games of their careers. Everybody is so quick to give negative praise but I haven't seen one post or thread stating they jumped the gun or didn't give either a fair shake of judgment, just silence. They both looked wonderful against the Broncos where we weren't so vanilla and the had more opportunity to get ahold of live action. I'm looking for big things out of them both this year to but they are still rookies like Janoris was last year. Hey won games for us or kept us competitive but blew some TD's and coverage. They are rookies.
 
Well, pointing out bad play is one thing. Nobody made career judgements on this board though - I don't think. :what:

I tend to agree though, that fans in general expect too much (IMO) from rookies and from preseason. Every once in awhile you'll get a rookie who plays lights out right away, but that's way too often NOT the case in this league. Both redeemed themselves last week for sure. I expect growing pains and games similar to last week from both of them throughout the course of the season, so keeping an even keel during both scnearios is always advisable.
 
Ordered my Tavon Austin jersey yesterday !!!
 
The Rammer said:
The first two pre-season games I seen so many negative comments about these two and concern and people going crazy over 2, yes, that's right 2 pre season games of their careers. Everybody is so quick to give negative praise but I haven't seen one post or thread stating they jumped the gun or didn't give either a fair shake of judgment, just silence. They both looked wonderful against the Broncos where we weren't so vanilla and the had more opportunity to get ahold of live action. I'm looking for big things out of them both this year to but they are still rookies like Janoris was last year. Hey won games for us or kept us competitive but blew some TD's and coverage. They are rookies.
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you kinda contradict yourself here.... saying people they should create a thread they jumped the gun from what they saw in 2 preseason games but yet you're doing the same thing, and only going off a couple plays at that.

and while austin looked good (i'm sure he has stuff to work on from the all 22 film), there some issues with ogletree. Outside those plays, he had some trouble shedding blocks and had a few lapses in coverage.

I think Ogletree will be a play maker - but everyone's concerns are still legit.
 
iced said:
The Rammer said:
The first two pre-season games I seen so many negative comments about these two and concern and people going crazy over 2, yes, that's right 2 pre season games of their careers. Everybody is so quick to give negative praise but I haven't seen one post or thread stating they jumped the gun or didn't give either a fair shake of judgment, just silence. They both looked wonderful against the Broncos where we weren't so vanilla and the had more opportunity to get ahold of live action. I'm looking for big things out of them both this year to but they are still rookies like Janoris was last year. Hey won games for us or kept us competitive but blew some TD's and coverage. They are rookies.
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you kinda contradict yourself here.... saying people they should create a thread they jumped the gun from what they saw in 2 preseason games but yet you're doing the same thing, and only going off a couple plays at that.

and while austin looked good (i'm sure he has stuff to work on from the all 22 film), there some issues with ogletree. Outside those plays, he had some trouble shedding blocks and had a few lapses in coverage.

I think Ogletree will be a play maker - but everyone's concerns are still legit.
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Stop using so much logic iced. It's different because he's saying Good things about them, duh.
 
All I've said is that Alec Ogletree will need more time to adjust than what most expected. Which is fine.
 
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Well, pointing out bad play is one thing. Nobody made career judgements on this board though - I don't think. :what:

I tend to agree though, that fans in general expect too much (IMO) from rookies and from preseason. Every once in awhile you'll get a rookie who plays lights out right away, but that's way too often NOT the case in this league. Both redeemed themselves last week for sure. I expect growing pains and games similar to last week from both of them throughout the course of the season, so keeping an even keel during both scnearios is always advisable.
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excellent POV, most assuredly to much is expected with rookies taken early. Not many are ready for NFL game speed right out of the gate
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I wasn't a big fan of the Ogletree pick, but I understood that he is a rookie, and would have some rough spots this year. I'm a much bigger fan of the pick now after Saturday nights game however!
 
Excellent post.

Keep in mind it just doesn't happen here, it happens everywhere and always includes fans own biases for their players etc. I have read it on every board I have visited. If their players struggle some, well the preseason excuse for their players are that its "vanilla"....if its a rival teams top pick or whatever, well you will see the same posters proclaim they are already a bust. Just like Geno Smith, the guy had 1 bad PRESEASON game and his career is over apparently because message board posters who have obviously turned down many NFL GM jobs have decided it is so.

The sensationalism that abounds over freaking rookies in this day and age is hilarious, stupid, well, hilariously stupid. If this was 1998, there would be idiotic people on message boards everywhere proclaiming Peyton Manning as a bust because that season for him was awful.

The word "development" is absent on most of the NFL boards you will visit, and that's the fun part is seeing some guys really blossom after a year or two. I remember Troy Polamalu didn't really get much playing time until the freaking END of his rookie year and fans and media pundits were already saying it was a bad pick, forgetting that most players never even see the field on a Lebeau defense until year two or three.
 
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