So, which position group should Snead/McVay really go ‘all in’ on in this draft?

[Allen2McVay]

The Lewis gamble was worth it at the time, but it’s looking like we lost on that gamble so far due to health.

I think it’s much too early for that conclusion.

 

[Rams43]

I think it’s much too early for that conclusion.

I understand if you’re talking ‘final decision’ here.

But does one want to count on Lewis being there for all 17 games in a SB push season? Don’t know about you, but I’d prefer to hedge my bets there a little bit until Lewis convinces us one way or another.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I understand if you’re talking ‘final decision’ here.

But does one want to count on Lewis being there for all 17 games in a SB push season? Don’t know about you, but I’d prefer to hedge my bets there a little bit until Lewis convinces us one way or another.

This statement I agree with Rams43.

The previous comment was a little too certain in my opinion.

I love Lewis' talent (he flashed a couple times last year) but I have concern whether he will be durable enough for us to see that talent.

It's similar to how I went back-and-forth a little last week with another good poster about Brycen Hopkins. The lack of any meaningful playing-time in 2020 gives me concern about Hopkins but, unlike that poster, I am not yet certain that he will be unable to contribute.

 

[PARAM]

We all believe we need a center, OT, CB, LB and Edge. I think they go after a CB first, then OT and LB (not necessarily in that order) and finally C. And I hope they trade down somewhere for an extra pick to get that WR/TE from UCF.

 

[dieterbrock]

I understand if you’re talking ‘final decision’ here.

But does one want to count on Lewis being there for all 17 games in a SB push season? Don’t know about you, but I’d prefer to hedge my bets there a little bit until Lewis convinces us one way or another.

I think the Rams are quite happy with what they got from him last year, there was talk early about a full redshirt season and still he played in half the games. Expecting a full 17 for him was a bit unreasonable IMO. I still think he has the potential to be the head scratcher of the draft, as in why teams didnt take him earlier. It wouldnt surprise me to see them hold back on his snaps to try to have him 100% by post season.

 

[dieterbrock]

It's similar to how I went back-and-forth a little last week with another good poster about Brycen Hopkins. The lack of any meaningful playing-time in 2020 gives me concern about Hopkins but, unlike that poster, I am not yet certain that he will be unable to contribute.

Not sure if you're referring to me, as it seems I ended up in this discussion multiple times in multiple threads, however I never said that his ZERO contribution had me certain that he wont be able to contribute in the future, only that it was a serious red-flag.
In the guise of the current correlation with Lewis, its apples to oranges as Tlew made a significant impact despite no pre-season/TC & injury concern vs ZERO

 

[Allen2McVay]

Not sure if you're referring to me, as it seems I ended up in this discussion multiple times in multiple threads, however I never said that his ZERO contribution had me certain that he wont be able to contribute in the future, only that it was a serious red-flag.
In the guise of the current correlation with Lewis, its apples to oranges as Tlew made a significant impact despite no pre-season/TC & injury concern vs ZERO

Not you.

Referring to Corbin who expressed a level of certainty on Hopkins that I did not share.

And you should have known I was not referring to you.
I referred to Corbin as a 'good poster'. I did not say the 'greatest poster in the history of posting'.

 

[BonifayRam]

We all believe we need a center, OT, CB, LB and Edge. I think they go after a CB first, then OT and LB (not necessarily in that order) and finally C. And I hope they trade down somewhere for an extra pick to get that WR/TE from UCF.

I am there with you that if a very talented outside corner is there @ #57 that the pick!

I do not see OT being close to a need...unless you changed your OT to a LEFT OT. er:

But ER's in the DL & OLB units is a serious need & a future OC prospect. Sorry, can ride with you on that need @ ILB'er.:facepalm:

 

[Riverumbbq]

This statement I agree with Rams43.

The previous comment was a little too certain in my opinion.

I love Lewis' talent (he flashed a couple times last year) but I have concern whether he will be durable enough for us to see that talent.

Interesting question, ... and It makes me wonder if Lewis replacing Fox as our 5T guy off the bench might reduce his snaps and keep him healthier than playing a full time role at OLB ? Floyd had over 900 (90%) defensive snaps last season, Fox had closer to 400 (39%). Of course, keeping Lewis at OLB and platooning him with others will also have the same effect in reducing overall snaps. Which position has the least depth ?

 

[oldnotdead]

I've speculated that the Rams might trade up in the second round if a targeted player falls into their trade up range. I've also speculated that their #1 priority would be an edge. The player I personally have in mind is Jayson Oweh. Normally I'm not a big fan of trading up for a player as raw as Oweh but his athleticism, physical traits, and especially his speed could make him a perfect match opposite Floyd. When I say speed I'm talking about extraordinary speed if validated by analytics of his game films, he's been timed at 4.39 making him faster than Floyd. His issues are all technique related, but he has shown a very good work ethic to this point. If in fact, he can play to the level of Floyd this would give the Rams an outstanding 4 man pass rush with AD, Floyd, Robinson, and Oweh. I like Lewis a lot but his health history is a huge concern. A good rotational player will go a long way in keeping him healthy.

Oweh isn't so raw that he can't contribute as a rotational player behind Lewis this year and while he polishes his game. This is the type of player IMO Snead and McVay would target to keep this defense on top for years. If he or some other targeted player drops to the middle of the second round, I think we will see Snead use Hekker and probably their compensatory 3rd round pick to move up. This would allow them to then have 2 second round picks in much the same way they grabbed Akers and Jefferson.

This looks to be a relatively shallow draft so I see no benefit to trade down just to grab camp fodder. Even if they trade away both 3rd rounders if they get value in the 2nd round it won't matter. Like I said there aren't a lot of holes in this roster. A #3 RB/FB and a SCB can be had along with depth players if they were to simply stand pat. Edge is the only position that IMO is worth moving up for.

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[So Ram]

I am there with you that if a very talented outside corner is there @ #57 that the pick!

I do not see OT being close to a need...unless you changed your OT to a LEFT OT. er:

But ER's in the DL & OLB units is a serious need & a future OC prospect. Sorry, can ride with you on that need @ ILB'er.:facepalm:

I look back at games from last season.
That Holland guy The Rams picked up from Denver just ---- Imo.He was actually taking starting Reps ?Then that Rivers guy as well is gone.
The Rams rotate a lot of Players in & out on Defense.Fox is gone as well & he played DE/OLB on the right side during the playoffs.It seemed Floyd was lining up on that side more as well.OBO is a Free Agent & he has yet to really flash.
Hard call with The Rams first pick to say who & what position.Imo it has to be certain players they circle rather than a player.Brockers is gone & has held the DLine together for awhile.

 

[BonifayRam]

I look back at games from last season.
That Holland guy The Rams picked up from Denver just sucks Imo.He was actually taking starting Reps ?Then that Rivers guy as well is gone.
The Rams rotate a lot of Players in & out on Defense.Fox is gone as well & he played DE/OLB on the right side during the playoffs.It seemed Floyd was lining up on that side more as well.OBO is a Free Agent & he has yet to really flash.
Hard call with The Rams first pick to say who & what position.Imo it has to be certain players they circle rather than a player.Brockers is gone & has held the DLine together for awhile.

Okay.....let me check on this ...I wonder how much time Justin Hollins was involved in the 2020 Ram Training Camp? How many preseason gms was JH involved with as a Ram?

I thought that JH has the size & length of an edge rusher being over 6-5 & 250 pounds?? Why was JH playing so much ILB'er early last season? Oh yeah, injuries to the starters & it was Kiser's 2nd season playing injured....Kiser has just the right size to play MLB'er .....very short 5-11 oh I forgot about teams picking on Micah Kiser with all those high throws over his head & short arms.....

JH sure did play a lot of snaps on the defense 350 in 16 gms. I wonder why teams would pick on Justin's side & not give Leonard Floyd some opportunities to cover the edge or cover the RB swing out of the backfield?

I just found out that Justin Hollins was a WWC who was picked off the street for nothing but an empty bag of peanuts after the regular season began. I wonder how well Justin will do if he had a full Training Camp, preseason under his belt with this new DC?

 

[So Ram]

I am there with you that if a very talented outside corner is there @ #57 that the pick!

I do not see OT being close to a need...unless you changed your OT to a LEFT OT. er:

But ER's in the DL & OLB units is a serious need & a future OC prospect. Sorry, can ride with you on that need @ ILB'er.:facepalm:

I look back at games from last season.
That Holland guy The Rams picked up from Denver just sucks Imo.He was actually taking starting Reps ?Then that Rivers guy as well is gone.
The Rams rotate a lot of Players in & out on Defense.Fox is gone as well & he played DE/OLB on the right side during the playoffs.It seemed Floyd was lining up on that side more as well.OBO is a Free Agent & he has yet to really flash.
Hard call with The Rams first pick to say who & what position.Imo it has to be certain players they circle rather than a player.Brockers is gone & has held the DLine together for awhile.

 

[ReddingRam]

An Edge Rusher The Rams have always needed IMO. Last year though Perfect finding T. Lewis. I don’t get all the concerns there.
L.Dickerson is a different player & had a different injury.He is a True 1st Rd talent. B.Jones wasn’t all that highly rated. Bama had a different team back then.

Uummm ... Jones won the award for best C in the country that yr (Rimington award?). 2 ACL's for LD.

 

[André]

So, who had wide receiver?

 

[So Ram]

Uummm ... Jones won the award for best C in the country that yr (Rimington award?). 2 ACL's for LD.

Barrett Jones he also redshirted his freshman year at ALABAMA ? Give him all the awards you want to,and you can take away his injury & dream what type of a player he could have been.His injury though & play are different than Landon Dickerson.

Landon Dickerson’s career is just beginning so will have a better idea
On his NFL impact?

Dickerson was the FIRST TRUE FRESHMAN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN to start at FSU since 1982.

 

[ReddingRam]

Barrett Jones he also redshirted his freshman year at ALABAMA ? Give him all the awards you want to,and you can take away his injury & dream what type of a player he could have been.His injury though & play are different than Landon Dickerson.

Landon Dickerson’s career is just beginning so will have a better idea
On his NFL impact?

Dickerson was the FIRST TRUE FRESHMAN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN to start at FSU since 1982.

I'm not disputing his play on the field. I am just pointing out that he has major injury concerns. For some reason, guys out of Bama get injuries like this and it follows them. I'm not saying he isn't good, i'm saying he is a medical risk

 

[So Ram]

I'm not disputing his play on the field. I am just pointing out that he has major injury concerns. For some reason, guys out of Bama get injuries like this and it follows them. I'm not saying he isn't good, i'm saying he is a medical risk

I guess Reggie Scott was on The Rams staff back then as well? I don’t know what the evaluation on Landon.
I do trust in his word & determination.He found himself a good spot to develop & won’t be ask to start day 1.
Fair enough, now it’s about Tutu & DJ11 to stay healthy work together.I like The Rams group of offensive lineman. I haven’t been a Fan of Brian Allen,but hope he is 100% healthy and ready to compete.Austin Corbett could be The Rams starting Center of the future,or the swing RG/Center starter?
I’d take Dickerson over Anchrum though & if he sat a season would help let the log jam clear up..
Noteboom
Allen
Corbett
Coleman
Whitworth/ ? Retire ?
Demby
That is a lot of question marks in 2022.

Then Brewer,Havenstien,Edwards,Evans, and Anchrum become Free Agents.

I like the upside of The Rams guys & think Joe Noteboom is The Rams future LT. Everyone has there view.

I did say Landon Dickerson would not get by The Rams at 57,which was a true statement even if it was not 100% ?