They just want what they want and will do what it takes to get it.
So which came first Garrett or Simpson
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I think for big block buster deals, the 2 teams need to have different goals. The Rams goal is SB now. The 2 teams you mentioned, there goal is to become competitive now. It is much easier for the outcome to be win win. It is difficult for 2 contenders to come to terms. Rams and Eagles couldn't do it.
Yeah Goff had all the tools but didn't use them very well but I don't see his biggest issue as his tendency not to use his wheels. When he's on he can win from the pocket in all situations. Problem is he can get knocked off his timing and have meltdowns under pressure.
By the way I think you're correct that Simpson may be a better processor on the mental side early on. Ironically, however, he may not get a chance to play until year 3.
Darnold was at least 3rd best qb maybe lower but they had a d that could win games, keep them in games and hold onto a lead in the 4that times quarter.
Now the rams have that , the rams needed mvp Stafford at times like Carolina who really shouldn’t haven’t in the game.
People are going to compare Simpson with Arch and the rest but no way the rams get any of those guys.
Agreed. McVay wins too damn much to end up with Arch or equivalent, assuming he plays well before he graduates.
For myself the comparison for Simpson is how he stacks up vs Klubnik, Payton, etc. Time will tell and in the meantime I'm just going to enjoy watching him develop. I don't really have any expectations for him but he should be fun to watch in preseason.
Less about Garrett, more about trading that first.
Without Garrett, we were still Super Bowl favorites - odds are that pick would be in the mid 20s or later - meanwhile the rest of the league was really valuing (over valuing for a lot of them) those first round picks - I think that always made sense for it to be a trade asset.
So I think the plan was, "Hey, no player taken at 13 can start and contribute this year, so lets take our QB now, and then trade next years first rounder to get an actual contributor"
Without Garrett, we were still Super Bowl favorites - odds are that pick would be in the mid 20s or later - meanwhile the rest of the league was really valuing (over valuing for a lot of them) those first round picks - I think that always made sense for it to be a trade asset.
So I think the plan was, "Hey, no player taken at 13 can start and contribute this year, so lets take our QB now, and then trade next years first rounder to get an actual contributor"
One thing it insinuates is the Rams were not impressed by Bain in the draft. Or there was something they didn't like about him, be it his arm length or the off field side.
Nah. They wanted a QB now, si it freed up the 27' #1 to go get an instant impact guy. They didn't want to wait on a rookie, picked at 13 in a weak draft. So yeah, he won't be a superstar on day 1, which is why he was there at 13. Maybe he surprises, but they wanted to get their QB of the future in the building (they really like him) and then go star hunting with their draft capital.
Part of that process of settling on drafting Simpson includes evaluation of the other options at 13. If Bain was thought highly enough by the Rams you can bet that would affect their logic in what QB they target.
Maybe they even liked Bain to some extent. They brought him in for a visit iirc. But clearly they don't think he's special.
Obviously, but the fact that he was there at 13, in this draft, shows that he was not thought of as an instant impact guy by the entire league.
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Darnold kept brain farting in games all regular season but really turned it on in the playoffs and played lights out.
He was pretty middle of the pack last season. The great news is they lost Kubiak who I think gave that offense juice it didn't deserve to have. I expect we'll see a regression in Darnold next season unless Fleury is a wunderkin.
View: https://youtu.be/FUCnZPm7F24?si=LjcVuIt0f485sppj
Jourdan Rodrigue on trade starts around 30:30 on the video.
Interesting. I wouldn't say this is the chicken or the egg moreso just all the puzzle pieces coming together. The two things can both be true in that they really liked Simpson in the pre-draft process and thought he was worth the pick and also having the QB plan in place makes it easier to bite the bullet on trading away future assets.
Does the Simpson pick happen without knowing the Garrett trade was done? I still think so. Does the Garrett trade happen without the Simpson pick? A bit harder to say.
I also find it hilarious how many pundits have said the Simpson pick makes less sense now because they've gone all-in because they're entirely missing the point here.
Not sure if this one was posted. A good and very complimentary discussion on the Rams organization. We've come a long way boys!
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Absolutely fantastic nuggets in here including a cameo comment on Puka in which they say he's doing everything they want since his screw ups last offseason.