So which came first Garrett or Simpson

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Yes, and LET them be.

Hope Cleveland ends up happy.

Trades, in theory, are not meant to be "Head-To-Head." They are meant to be wins for both sides.
Brilliantly said, hope it works out "Great" for both sides. Don't think any Rams fans would pass up winning the next 2 Super Bowls. Gotta a real good feeling about this deal.
 
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Developing an UDFA into a starting Left Tackle helped with this as well... LT isn't far from QB as being a must have for a 1st round pick... that gave us some flexibility as well.
And a #1 WR in the 5th and a #1 RB and a RT in the 5th and trading so little for a #1 TE and our RG our team captain Nickle DB in the 6th etc etc. Rams have done a great job as we all know of building this team. The comment though is because we were going to do this trade it allowed McVay to do something that was rather unconventional with a pick we got in a trade.
 
Developing an UDFA into a starting Left Tackle helped with this as well... LT isn't far from QB as being a must have for a 1st round pick... that gave us some flexibility as well.
Yes and this shows the Rams believe in Jackson, as well as his future on the medical side.
 
A lot being put on "they have their QB of the future". Sure, when you draft a QB in the first round, you believe he's the QB of your future. There have been plenty of teams who believed that and were wrong. But there's something about McVay, that gives me full confidence they are dead on right. Which if true, doesn't bode well for the rest of the league.

Goff looked like shit in 2016. Completely different in 2017 and 2018.
Stafford hadn't won a postseason game in 3 attempts.
4-0 in 2021
0-1 in 2023
1-1 in 2024
2-1 in 2025
From 0-3 to 7-3.

Simpson won't be asked to be a QB until 2028, so he should not only learn quite a bit over the next two years but be chomping at the bit to get going.

I was talking to an Eagle fan friend of mine. He told me, "be wary of the good college QB from the great college program". I told him, "there's that and the fact he only started 1 season, so yeah I'm wary of a lot of shit. But I've seen 9 years of how Snead and McVay work and that trumps any typical cautions IMHO".
 
So Myles Garrett is going to rework his contract without any additional money to make it easier for the Rams to carry his contract for the next few years? The news just keeps getting better.

Franchise QB (Check)
Closer on defense (Check, check)
QB of the future (Check)
WR duo (Check, check)
Fantastic TE room (Check)
Strong OL (Check)
Excellent RB tandem (Check)
Stong backend of the defense (Check)
Great head coach, great GM, terrific owner (Check, check, check)

Man the one song that rings in my ears is "we're in the money!!!" Correction, I didn't recognize the tune. It was "every time it rains, it rains, pennies from heaven"!!!!
 
A lot being put on "they have their QB of the future". Sure, when you draft a QB in the first round, you believe he's the QB of your future. There have been plenty of teams who believed that and were wrong. But there's something about McVay, that gives me full confidence they are dead on right. Which if true, doesn't bode well for the rest of the league.

Goff looked like shit in 2016. Completely different in 2017 and 2018.
Stafford hadn't won a postseason game in 3 attempts.
4-0 in 2021
0-1 in 2023
1-1 in 2024
2-1 in 2025
From 0-3 to 7-3.

Simpson won't be asked to be a QB until 2028, so he should not only learn quite a bit over the next two years but be chomping at the bit to get going.

I was talking to an Eagle fan friend of mine. He told me, "be wary of the good college QB from the great college program". I told him, "there's that and the fact he only started 1 season, so yeah I'm wary of a lot of shit. But I've seen 9 years of how Snead and McVay work and that trumps any typical cautions IMHO".
I agree McVay is better than most at QB evaluation. But he's not perfect. He can only do so much. Fans sometimes act like certain coaches can make any QB work but that's not true.

Also I think logically Simpson's role is to give the Rams an option to start in the event Stafford hangs them up this offseason. If Stafford sticks around for 2027 and plays well throughout, then by that point the Rams will again have a first round pick and the resources worst case to try to find a QB1. So it's basically a shot at a QBotF with an immediate role in mind as Stafford insurance.
 
Man, its interesting how many layers there are to making a trade like this. Rams took a lot into consideration. Last year they targeted Ferguson with pick number 26. Then Atlanta offers their first the next year and their second that year. They still got the guy they targeted in the second round. And gained a high first the following year.

So they shock everybody by not picked a wide receiver to help the offense this year. They picked Simpson. That pick was criticized. Mocked. John Lynch laughed at it.

Yet, the whole time there was a plan in place. No one knew that at the time. Yup, its a cliche. But true nonetheless. Snead/McVay are really playing chess while the others are playing checkers.
 
A lot being put on "they have their QB of the future". Sure, when you draft a QB in the first round, you believe he's the QB of your future. There have been plenty of teams who believed that and were wrong. But there's something about McVay, that gives me full confidence they are dead on right. Which if true, doesn't bode well for the rest of the league.

Goff looked like shit in 2016. Completely different in 2017 and 2018.
Stafford hadn't won a postseason game in 3 attempts.
4-0 in 2021
0-1 in 2023
1-1 in 2024
2-1 in 2025
From 0-3 to 7-3.

Simpson won't be asked to be a QB until 2028, so he should not only learn quite a bit over the next two years but be chomping at the bit to get going.

I was talking to an Eagle fan friend of mine. He told me, "be wary of the good college QB from the great college program". I told him, "there's that and the fact he only started 1 season, so yeah I'm wary of a lot of shit. But I've seen 9 years of how Snead and McVay work and that trumps any typical cautions IMHO".
I think those who don't have faith in the Simpson pick are the ones expecting them to magically come up with the next Matt Stafford or even a Goff type, when he is playing at a high level.

Simpson is probably looked at as a talented kid, who can play in this system and who comes with the mental make up to pick things up quickly. He will likely be more of a high level game manager, who can take over games at times, but will mostly be at his best playing within himself.

Fans need to accept that, and you can win like that. See Darnold. See Purdy & Garrapolo, both taking a team to a SB that they easily could have won. I think Simpson can be a notch above those guys which is still a top 10-12 QB.
 
Heard that from multiple people today. They must be pretty sure they got the right kid. Which is nice for fans to hear.

I’m sure getting him in the building and spending some time with him help alleviate SOME concern
 
I think those who don't have faith in the Simpson pick are the ones expecting them to magically come up with the next Matt Stafford or even a Goff type, when he is playing at a high level.

Simpson is probably looked at as a talented kid, who can play in this system and who comes with the mental make up to pick things up quickly. He will likely be more of a high level game manager, who can take over games at times, but will mostly be at his best playing within himself.

Fans need to accept that, and you can win like that. See Darnold. See Purdy & Garrapolo, both taking a team to a SB that they easily could have won. I think Simpson can be a notch above those guys which is still a top 10-12 QB.
I disagree.

I am among those who don't have faith in the Simpson pick, and yet I don't expect the Rams to magically come up with the next Stafford.

Rather I think Simpson does have a chance to be a starter at this level. However from there I see two problems, those being that first off he's far from a slam dunk, and secondly that McVay has inordinately high expectations for his QB.

Translation is I expect Simpson's "window" with the Rams will be to serve as a QBotF if Stafford hangs 'em up after 2026. After that it comes down to how well Simpson develops and competes, and whether he's wired the right way to be able to handle McVay and those highest of expectations. Maybe he is, and maybe he isn't.

Again I don't think he has a high chance to be better than Goff, and Goff was not good enough for McVay. So I see no reason to crown the kid or put too many expectations on his development. Worst case he'll be a good backup QB for a long time in this league. Best case he'll be our QBotF. I'm in no hurry to make any of that happen.
 
I know the Chicken came before the Egg ... but I'm not sure about Garrett or Simpson.
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Again I don't think he has a high chance to be better than Goff, and Goff was not good enough for McVay. So I see no reason to crown the kid or put too many expectations on his development. Worst case he'll be a good backup QB for a long time in this league. Best case he'll be our QBotF. I'm in no hurry to make any of that happen.
I like his chances of being better than Goff if his NFL mental processing is as good as it was in college and, MORE IMPORTANTLY, he uses his freaking legs which Goff for some reason refused to do.
 
I like his chances of being better than Goff if his NFL mental processing is as good as it was in college and, MORE IMPORTANTLY, he uses his freaking legs which Goff for some reason refused to do.
Yeah, I see him likley being superior between the ears early in his career as compared to Goff. Goff improved as he got older and after he got a wake up call after that trade.
 
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My biggest knock-on Goff, when he was a Ram, was that he went to crap under the slightest pressure and I always questioned his toughness. Now Stafford, that's one tough son of a gun.
And don't forget the small hands. /s
 
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I think those who don't have faith in the Simpson pick are the ones expecting them to magically come up with the next Matt Stafford or even a Goff type, when he is playing at a high level.

Simpson is probably looked at as a talented kid, who can play in this system and who comes with the mental make up to pick things up quickly. He will likely be more of a high level game manager, who can take over games at times, but will mostly be at his best playing within himself.

Fans need to accept that, and you can win like that. See Darnold. See Purdy & Garrapolo, both taking a team to a SB that they easily could have won. I think Simpson can be a notch above those guys which is still a top 10-12 QB.
Well said. Thats how I see Simpson. High-Level Game Manager. Just steer the ship competently and properly and win cerebrally. Pick up soul-killing 1st downs running. Then let media and critics say "Rams are carrying Simpson to Super Bowls," Yawn....