Snaps vs WAS

[shovelpass]

Offense

Defense

ST

 

[shovelpass]

-It's nice to have Lake back out there.
-I hope they continue to spell Higbee with Allen. Keeps Higbee fresh, and Allen looks promising.

 

[Psycho_X]

-It's nice to have Lake back out there.
-I hope they continue to spell Higbee with Allen. Keeps Higbee fresh, and Allen looks promising.

Was going to post both of these comments so quoting for emphasis.

 

[Tumak61]

Offensive Line has been really solid since the bye. No one's talking about them so you know they're playing well. The push on running plays has been impressive.

 

[VeteranRamFan]

What about our new long snapper, Tinker? Did a fine job in a position that never gets any glory but sure gets the blame when they do their job wrong!

Our regular long snapper (Ward is it?) was placed on IR after last weeks game.

 

[ArkyRamsFan]

I noticed that 3 of our Safeties (Fuller, Johnson and Lake) played over 90% of the snaps.
What kind of defense were we playing to accumulate these snap counts?

~ArkyRamsFan~

 

[Kupped]

Boy.. Yeast has dropped off.

And Nick Hampton getting a good amount of snaps!

 

[RamDino]

Boy.. Yeast has dropped off.

And Nick Hampton getting a good amount of snaps!

Have to play these kids to see what they got. It's all about next year.

 

[JimY53]

I noticed that 3 of our Safeties (Fuller, Johnson and Lake) played over 90% of the snaps.
What kind of defense were we playing to accumulate these snap counts?

~ArkyRamsFan~

Nickel.

Lake is playing "star" most of the time but alsowith a S as LBer or "money backer" when they
were going 3 CBs but I need to look closer when All-22 comes out.

Here is a 4-safety look, Lake is the star, Yeast is the money backer

Here is more of a base defense look with Lake, basically playing LBer ... but you could call it star since
star is a multiple role thing

 

[WestCoastRam]

I noticed that 3 of our Safeties (Fuller, Johnson and Lake) played over 90% of the snaps.
What kind of defense were we playing to accumulate these snap counts?

~ArkyRamsFan~

Dan might be better able to comment but I think Lake might be playing big nickel a lot.

And there he is! Right above me.

 

[JimY53]

Dan might be better able to comment but I think Lake might be playing big nickel a lot.

And there he is! Right above me.

Yeah, it's the big nickel or "star" --- the star, can be anyone, it's just the position ... Ramsey played it a lot, last year Durant, did, too. Durant played a lot of it this year, too. But there is one shot where Lake is really playing LBer in the base... but it's just a nomenclature thing.

Since the so-called star can be a lot of things is he a LBer? a safety playing LBer? A Star?

But IMO you are right, it's a safety playing slot rather than a cornerback -- the old big nickel. Ramsey was usful because he was a big CB. With Durant, in some games they went with him, he's going to be small and if they want to go big they have to replace him. With Ramsey it could be the same guy in both instances.

 

[JimY53]

Boy.. Yeast has dropped off.

As far as I could tell Yeast played only in what I think is called "money backer" He was the dime linebacker... blitzed off the edge a a few times... but again, need to see All-22 ... cannot get all the details off of TV copy.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I noticed that 3 of our Safeties (Fuller, Johnson and Lake) played over 90% of the snaps.
What kind of defense were we playing to accumulate these snap counts?

~ArkyRamsFan~

The safety depth is better than the Corner depth.

Boy.. Yeast has dropped off.

And Nick Hampton getting a good amount of snaps!

once JJ and Lake started playing more we saw Yeast getting fewer snaps

Nickel.

Lake is playing "star" most of the time but alsowith a S as LBer or "money backer" when they
were going 3 CBs but I need to look closer when All-22 comes out.View attachment 62983

Here is a 4-safety look, Lake is the star, Yeast is the money backer
View attachment 62984

Here is more of a base defense look with Lake, basically playing LBer ... but you could call it star since
star is a multiple role thing
View attachment 62985

Yeah, it's the big nickel or "star" --- the star, can be anyone, it's just the position ... Ramsey played it a lot, last year Durant, did, too. Durant played a lot of it this year, too. But there is one shot where Lake is really playing LBer in the base... but it's just a nomenclature thing.

Since the so-called star can be a lot of things is he a LBer? a safety playing LBer? A Star?

But IMO you are right, it's a safety playing slot rather than a cornerback -- the old big nickel. Ramsey was usful because he was a big CB. With Durant, in some games they went with him, he's going to be small and if they want to go big they have to replace him. With Ramsey it could be the same guy in both instances.

If you follow Jourdan Rodrigue, you may recall that she reported the Rams were trying to teach Durant the Star position, along with Tomlinson. Neither was working out how they hoped. Lake came in and took to it instantly.

 

[JimY53]

The safety depth is better than the Corner depth.

once JJ and Lake started playing more we saw Yeast getting fewer snaps


If you follow Jourdan Rodrigue, you may recall that she reported the Rams were trying to teach Durant the Star position, along with Tomlinson. Neither was working out how they hoped. Lake came in and took to it instantly.

1. Yes, agree
2. Yeast, IMO, got benched late in GB game showing poor ball skills. Kind of like last straw. Lake took over, then got hurt. Now back but Johnson took over for Lake ... though some details in that--some nuance. Yeast then got snaps at money backer and star, if memory serves.
3. yes. However, it's a matchup thing with Durant. He's been star a lot (see yellow highlighted -- all those can be fairly called "star") but was hurt a couple of weeks and this week Rams went with Lake as a bigger "star"

Also, yes. Tomlinson, agree they may have wanted him to learn the star and hasn't work out but he
cannot get on the field as a wide/outside guy much either.

 

[WestCoastRam]

The safety depth is better than the Corner depth.

once JJ and Lake started playing more we saw Yeast getting fewer snaps



If you follow Jourdan Rodrigue, you may recall that she reported the Rams were trying to teach Durant the Star position, along with Tomlinson. Neither was working out how they hoped. Lake came in and took to it instantly.

FWIW, I believe that's accurate about Durant but Tomlinson has always been practicing at outside corner/boundary.

 

[JimY53]

Tomlinson has always been practicing at outside corner/boundary.

I think you're right on that. There were draft reports that were projecting him as either wide or slot guy, but now that you mention it... I cannot recall any camp reports that said he was inside.

 

[jap]

Yeah, it's the big nickel or "star" --- the star, can be anyone, it's just the position ... Ramsey played it a lot, last year Durant, did, too. Durant played a lot of it this year, too. But there is one shot where Lake is really playing LBer in the base... but it's just a nomenclature thing.

Since the so-called star can be a lot of things is he a LBer? a safety playing LBer? A Star?

But IMO you are right, it's a safety playing slot rather than a cornerback -- the old big nickel. Ramsey was usful because he was a big CB. With Durant, in some games they went with him, he's going to be small and if they want to go big they have to replace him. With Ramsey it could be the same guy in both instances.

 Cobie Durant needs to muscle up period! I don't even care about him playing the Star role; he needs to be a more physical presence on the field with sounder tackling techniques. It will make him a much more well-rounded CB.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

Wow the Rams really seem to have a crap ton of personnel groupings on D. Complex.

I was trying to add up all the star groupings, while Rozeboom still got 53%….

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

FWIW, I believe that's accurate about Durant but Tomlinson has always been practicing at outside corner/boundary.

I based that off of one of Jourdan’s reports around midseason. She said the Rams were trying to teach Tomlinson the star position to back up Durant but it wasn’t working out.

 

[ArkyRamsFan]

Nickel.

Lake is playing "star" most of the time but alsowith a S as LBer or "money backer" when they
were going 3 CBs but I need to look closer when All-22 comes out.View attachment 62983

Here is a 4-safety look, Lake is the star, Yeast is the money backer
View attachment 62984

Here is more of a base defense look with Lake, basically playing LBer ... but you could call it star since
star is a multiple role thing
View attachment 62985

Yeah, I can see that we were in nickel a lot. My question is why?

Unless it just comes down to the Rams want to get their best players on the field and Quentin Lake is one of 'em.
So they played the nickel more than usual to accomplish that plan.

~ArkyRamsFan~